Any Black Friday Deals?

[Stevecru]

Anyone hear of any good deals?

[Azid]

No infos yet. It's a bit early, at least i have no infos. But in the last few years all discounts and new decks were collected in one thread.

Take a look at the thread of last year:
https://www.unitedcardists.com/viewtopi ... =8&t=12587" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thanks to rousselle who collected all info in one post to have a good overview.

[JacksandJokers]

I was just thinking the same thing.

I know Jackson is releasing a Federal 52 Green Reserve Note, Possibly with Green / Black Gilding.

That's the only one I know of for sure.

I'm guessing Lorenzo will launch his Gilded HOTRS Cartomancer decks Black Friday, Likewise Encarded's Aurum Deus.

And I currently have a sale on in my online store (http://www.jacksandjokers.co.uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) running throughout November.
I will probably do something for Black Friday weekend but not sure what yet.

[willroya]

Here are the deals at PCD:

All times in PCT – All codes are one use per customer

November 11 – Singles Day – 24 Hours Only 12:00am – 11:59pm – Code Single - 22% Off Site wide

November 28 5pm – 29 11:59pm – Black Friday – Code Black – 25% Off Site wide plus 3 free mystery decks on all orders over $100 (after discount is applied)

November 30 – Small Business Saturday - 24 Hours Only 12:00am – 11:59pm – Code PCD – 50% off all playingcarddecks.com produced decks and accessories – This collection: https://playingcarddecks.com/collection ... ying-cards" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

December 2 – Cyber Monday – 24 Hours Only 12:00am – 11:59pm Code Cyber – 20% Off Site wide plus an exclusive never released rainbow gilded Cybertech deck for the first 100 customers with orders over $100 (after discount is applied)

December 26 – Boxing Day – Valid thru December 31 – Code Box - $10 off orders over $30

December 31 - New Years Eve Clearance Event – Save 50% or More On Select Decks & Accessories In the Clearance Section - While supplies Last – No Code Needed

[aardvarkgod]

I'm guessing Lorenzo will launch his Gilded HOTRS Cartomancer decks Black Friday, Likewise Encarded's Aurum Deus.

Lorenzo's Instagram said today he's releasing in the next 7-10 days...he's finishing up the puzzle that goes with it.

[Thirdway Industries]

I am sharing my Black Friday on my newsletter and also Third Siren, my new side project for promote my and other people projects.

If you wish to subscribe (there will be extra discounts) here are the links
Third Siren > https://www.thirdsiren.it/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
TWI Newsletter > https://evildeck.us3.list-manage.com/su ... 9b3c3591a2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If you are a creator and you wish to publish your Black Friday deals on Third Siren or you're just interested, contact me at giovanni@thirdway.it (it's 100% free)

I am releasing Exquisite Fortuna and also A LOT of deals. This year it will be big

[JacksandJokers]

I'm guessing Lorenzo will launch his Gilded HOTRS Cartomancer decks Black Friday, Likewise Encarded's Aurum Deus.

Lorenzo's Instagram said today he's releasing in the next 7-10 days...he's finishing up the puzzle that goes with it.

I saw that. For some reason I thought Black Friday was in 10 days time.

[STLBluesNut]

@willroya november 11th, singles day? Seems to me there is a pretty important holiday on that day. Disappointed.

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[RWPPFFShuffle]

Guessing there are more playing card collectors who are single than there are collectors who are military veterans lol. Lucky for me I'm both. HAHAHAhaha...ha...ha.... T.T

[Decknowledgy]

@willroya november 11th, singles day? Seems to me there is a pretty important holiday on that day. Disappointed.

It's an artificial holiday that was supposed to be an inside joke of a Chinese university but popularized by Chinese e-commerce businesses to boost sales during that day. It's basically like the Black Friday of China, similarly heavily oriented towards sales and competition between businesses to see who sells the most: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singles%27_Day

Singles day or Guanggun Jie (Chinese: 光棍节; pinyin: Guānggùn Jié; Wade–Giles: Kuang-kun chieh; literally: 'Single Sticks' Holiday') is a shopping holiday popular among young Chinese people that celebrate their pride in being single. The date, November 11th (11/11), was chosen because the number "1" resembles an individual who is alone. The holiday has also become a popular date to celebrate relationships, with over 4,000 couples being married in Beijing on this date in 2011, compared to an average of 700 a day.

The holiday has become the largest offline and online shopping day in the world, with Alibaba shoppers exceeding 168.2 billion yuan (US$25.4 billion) in spending during the 2017 celebration. Rival JD.com hosts an eleven-day shopping festival as well, which garnered US$19.1 billion, bringing the Chinese total to US$44.5 billion.

e-Commerce businesses literally set up panels to show how much they earn at the end of the day or the next (example taken from the Alibaba corporation showing that 2 hrs to the deadline they've passed the 100 billion transaction mark in the day...)

[theCapraAegagrus]

I may have to hold off buying that DP-12 so I can get some of the nice decks coming out very soon...

[STLBluesNut]

@decknowedgy so let's celebrate a joke Chinese holiday instead of Veteran's Day. I mean, it's not like our men and women of the military ever did anything. Just disappointed. Don't want to do anything for Veteran's Day, fine. Just seems kind of like a slap in the face to instead just make some Chinese meme out of the same day.

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[MagikFingerz]

@decknowedgy so let's celebrate a joke Chinese holiday instead of Veteran's Day. I mean, it's not like our men and women of the military ever did anything. Just disappointed. Don't want to do anything for Veteran's Day, fine. Just seems kind of like a slap in the face to instead just make some Chinese meme out of the same day.

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If, hypothetically, Veteran's Day fell on the same day as Black Friday, would you expect all stores to have Veteran's Day sales rather than Black Friday sales?

[Outsider]

@decknowedgy so let's celebrate a joke Chinese holiday instead of Veteran's Day. I mean, it's not like our men and women of the military ever did anything. Just disappointed. Don't want to do anything for Veteran's Day, fine. Just seems kind of like a slap in the face to instead just make some Chinese meme out of the same day.

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If, hypothetically, Veteran's Day fell on the same day as Black Friday, would you expect all stores to have Veteran's Day sales rather than Black Friday sales?

If, theoretically, that somehow were possible and did happen, in the city I live in any store that chose to advertise Black Friday over Veterans Day would get NO sales and possibly outright boycotted if they didn't make quick amends and blame it on some idiot intern.

Granted, I live in a city with multiple major military installations, but I kinda expect most places in the US would choose a military holiday such as Veterans Day over a commercial one like Black Friday to advertise a sale, given that doing the opposite is well assured to upset people.

[MagikFingerz]

I guess it's harder for me to understand, due to differences in cultural significance placed on the military. But here's how I read that:

...choose a military holiday such as Veterans Day over a commercial one like Black Friday to advertise a sale...

The whole point of Black Friday/Singles Day is sales, and everyone knows it. Should/would Veteran's Day take precedence over all other days (were they to hypothetically overlap)? If there was a National Mattress Day holiday and it (again, hypothetically) fell on the same day as Veteran's Day, would people really scoff at any stores that called their sales "Mattress Day sales" over "Veteran's Day sales"?

I hope I don't come across as disrespectful, I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around this.

[RWPPFFShuffle]

I'm pretty sure if a Mattress store did a "Mattress day sale" over a "Veteran's Day sale" IF they fell on the same day...would probably get some backlash here in the US, but not anywhere else since it's a U.S. Holiday. (That hypothetical is a huge stretch though since I don't think the Mattress Mafia would have a National Mattress Day on Veteran's Day, or any other U.S. Holiday for that matter.)

Either way, as a vet, I don't really care what a sale is called. Buying things on sale isn't exactly "celebrating" the veterans anyways, and if I'm being honest, I take more offense at the commercialization of Veteran's/Armistice Day or Memorial Day. I get that companies will call their sale whatever gets them more attention too, and since Single's Day is based around online shopping, maybe Will thought it'd be more accessible to international customers searching for deals.

[Outsider]

Not at all, I'm well familiar with how differently these things are perceived.

Military holidays in the US take on especial significance because virtually everyone here is at least related to someone who currently or previously served, even including living WWII veterans. Honoring our troops is basically the last truly bipartisan/nonpartisan issue in the US, maybe in no small part because pissing off veterans means their whole family too, and that's pretty much everyone.

Veterans Day isn't an especially commercial holiday - though many places do offer military discounts or even free food - but consider it from a business standpoint. Exactly zero people in the world will be offended if there's not a Black Friday or Cyber Monday or whatever sale. LOTS of people will be offended if you choose to name a holiday sale for literally anything but the patriotic holiday, if one falls on that day, because it subtly implies that the commercial "holiday" (read: excuse for a sale) takes precedence, and although it may be all about the sale for the company involved, the name has to reflect what people value.

In practice this never happens with American holidays, even if it were possible, stores would straight up reschedule Black Friday because falling on a serious holiday would dampen sales, while having two separate holiday sales is a no-brainer.

In this case, it's especially baffling. Almost nobody in the US even knows what Singles Day is. Without opening a can of worms, choosing "Chinese Black Friday" over a patriotic holiday...not the best marketing choice for American customers.

I personally don't shop on holidays I actually care about.

[STLBluesNut]

Well, I am not sure what cultural differences you are speaking to. I assume you are not American?

I shop. A lot. I have never heard of singles day in my life. It sounds like an opposite valentine's day single holiday.

In the US, all kinds of NATIONAL holidays are used in sales to celebrate the holiday. This singles day is nothing here, let alone a NATIONAL holiday. I am 45 years old and have never heard of it.

In the hypothetical examples above, yes people would be upset overriding a national holiday of historical importance with a commercial sales holiday. There is probably a good reason Black Friday does not overlap with any National holiday, those who came up with it were smart enough to not do that.

Were aren't talking about overriding Waffle Day, this is a historically important national holiday. Take an important National holiday in your country that is celebrated, say an Independence Day, and just ignore it for "singles day" and see how it goes. I'm sure some of the governments of some folks reading this wouldn't even allow it.

I get it for folks that aren't in the US. Our Veteran's Day means nothing to you. Our men and women who have bravely sacrificed are recognized on this day and it means something here. Well, to most of the country it does.

Some of those same men and women are, in part, along with other forces, the reason half the world isn't speaking German right now. And not the good German we know these days.

No one here has to agree with me. I don't need the validation the Veteran's Day is exponentially more important than singles day. Maybe I am more bothered by it because I am a veteran.

I have had the highest respect for Will and his company and have purchased from him many times. Nearly once a week I get an email that he has some decks on sale for some obscure day. Never once have I seen a National holiday overridden by something like red heads day or pirates day. So really? Singles day instead of Veteran's Day? Even if it was a singles day and Veteran's Day sale.

It is not like this is some company run in Asia or Europe. I would fully expect there would be no attention paid to the day. I was hoping to come here and seen a post by Will with his 2 cents. I am very disappointed, in part because I had such respect for him and his company. However, unless this is addressed in some fashion, I can assure you that I will never buy another product from or designed by PCD and Will Roya.

So if you are reading this @willroya, I would love to hear your thoughts on this.

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[Adonael]

Lol, every holiday is a made up holiday. Next you're going to try telling me that christmas is about religion instead of consumerism, even though it hasn't been for close to 100 years now. It's merely a celebration of the end of the year. So maybe it overlaps with something the religious people do, they can do what they do and I can do what I do. Two different things.

[RWPPFFShuffle]

I have never heard of singles day in my life. It sounds like an opposite valentine's day single holiday.

Basically yeah, the opposite of Valentine's day. A Consumer holiday created by Alibaba to capitalize on the fact that single people have more disposable income and tend to do more online shopping. It's a pretty recent thing, so no surprise you have haven't heard of it, but it's gotten pretty big in Southeastern Asian countries, not just China.

I get it for folks that aren't in the US. Our Veteran's Day means nothing to you. Our men and women who have bravely sacrificed are recognized on this day and it means something here.

Veteran's Day used to be Armistice Day, to commemorate the signing of the armistice treaty between Allied forces and Germany in WWI, and is a National holiday in France and other allied nations. Also from wikipedia:

"After the end of World War II, most member states of the Commonwealth of Nations, like the United Kingdom and (as Canada had in 1931), adopted the name Remembrance Day. Other countries also changed the name of the holiday just prior to or after World War II, to honour veterans of that and subsequent conflicts. The United States chose All Veterans Day, later shortened to 'Veterans Day', to explicitly honour military veterans, including those participating in other conflicts."

Point being, although "Veteran's Day" is called other things in other countries, the thing it commemorates probably does mean something to other countries outside the U.S. (Slightly related, Singles Day is becoming a thing in Germany, which...makes sense.) Anyways, in the U.S. Veteran's Day is meant to celebrate all Military veterans, while Memorial Day is to honor those who have fallen, so "Our men and women who have bravely SERVED are recognized on this day" is a bit more accurate. Thanks for your service btw, it's cool to see other vets in this hobby.

Lol, every holiday is a made up holiday. Next you're going to try telling me that christmas is about religion instead of consumerism

Well...yeah Christmas IS supposed to be about religion. Capitalism just sort of ties consumerism to the religious holiday, but it doesn't necessarily make it ABOUT consumerism (except Valentine's Day and now Singles Day I guess...those were created by corporations to promote consumerism). I get where you're coming from though, and while I don't personally believe in "celebrating" certain days meant for remembrance with discounts and sales, I'm not naive enough to think that everyone else should feel the same way. In the U.S., it's something like less than 5% of the population who have served in the military or has had someone in their family serve, so it's not a surprise there's that disconnect. Hard truth is that most people don't understand WHY they have these national holidays, it's more about getting things for cheap.

In that vein, I can't fault Will for having a "Singles Day" sale rather than a "Veteran's Day" sale, in fact, I kind of appreciate not having to see another "Veteran's Day Sale, enter code 'veteran' for 20% off" or whatever. Anyways, not sure what I'm really trying to say here, just felt like I should share my opinion.

[STLBluesNut]

I know the history of Veteran's Day. Was just talking about it as we recognize it here in the US as I am not sure how it is regarded in other countries.

Of course, we all have our varying views on varying topics. I suppose this one hit a button for me. Those are my views on it.

There may be several reasons for Will to have chosen singles day, but for an American company to choose a joke foreign holiday over a very respected day of recognition rubs me the wrong way.

There is every chance that Will does not keep up with the forums here as much as others and may have not seen this topic after his post. However, I stand by what I said, unless this issue is addressed in some reasonable, acceptable manner, PCD will no longer be a business I support.

There are a lot of things discussed on this forum with others saying they will not buy a deck or support a designer or company for various reasons that have no weight in my purchasing decision. Everyone has issues that are important to them and their own line they will not cross. This one is mine.

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[macstrat]

Very Unpopular Opinion:
I lived in China for 3 years. Im quite familiar with Singles day, and for a business owner, I see it as a good move on his part to try to be accepting of all cultures. He is also one of the few businesses I have seen that offer a National Teachers day discount, other than office supply stores. By comparison, Christmas and other christian holidays arent always celebrated in the east (you should try finding a Christmas decoration anywhere in Qinghai province. We had to ship our "tree" in from England in someones luggage)

On a more personal note: I grew up with the military, and while I do support the people, I have also seen so many places offer discounts to veterans rather than teachers and other public servants. I have also seen those same veterans get home loans and services that they dont really need, but get them because they can, while my disabled students are denied simple things like proper food, and mental health services. While I cant say this is true for all veterans, I know its true for many that I have encountered.

Many jobs are thankless jobs. You do the job you signed up for, whatever that may be, and you deal. Dont like it? You have the freedom to find another. Many people dont have that option.

I apologize for the rant. Thank you Will for offering sales on your site at all.

[RWPPFFShuffle]

@ STLBluesNut, I get it, it's a hot button topic for me too apparently. It sounds like for you, calling it a Singles Day sale over a Veterans Day sale is disrespectful to veterans, and somehow cheapens Veterans Day. For me, tying sales to Veterans Day is what cheapens the meaning of it in the first place. Calling it something else doesn't take away from the importance of the day, and if anything, in my mind, it's gives it MORE importance because it's not just another holiday to exploit commercially in the eyes of PCD. I don't know if that's the reasoning behind it, but I don't think Will Roya has anything he needs to justify. Would it be better in your mind if he just called it "the November 11th sale?" What you call a "joke foreign holiday" is akin to Black Friday or Cyber Monday. I agree with that actually, since I think Black Friday is a joke "holiday," foreign to anyone outside the U.S., but it seems that's part of why this whole thing rubs you the wrong way; that a U.S. company would choose to advertise a "foreign holiday" over a U.S. one. To this, I don't have much to say, I just see it as a broadening of PCD's customer base. Globalization and all that.

Point is, I didn't join the Marines and go to Iraq so I could be celebrated with Sales in my honor, and I'm sure you didn't either. I wished my Marines a happy birthday yesterday, and I thanked any vets I know from other branches today. That's how I choose to celebrate my fellow servicemembers, but I get that people who don't have much affiliation with the military just see it as another day of sales. How a company chooses to advertise their sales just doesn't register to me as an issue, especially something like Singles Day, which I happened to just be more aware of. If he had a "Heil Hitler Sale," that'd be a whole different story. Anyways, I understand you have your viewpoint, I'm just sharing mine as well.

@macstrat
Yeah, as much as I appreciate my fellow vets, unfortunately your story about vets taking services they don't particularly need isn't an uncommon one. Greed is a universally human thing. I also agree that it's not terrible for business owners to be accepting of different cultures, and I respect your choice of teaching as a profession. Definitely one of the more under-appreciated career choices, but one that has an important impact on society.

[Harvonsgard]

Lol, every holiday is a made up holiday.

Not quite right. Holidays started, at least in pagan traditions, as reminders for important days in nature like the equinox and that stuff. You know, back in the days where humans weren't that arrogant to believe they are seperated from nature. Later they perverted to propaganda tools and today we have that weird mixture of still propaganda related days and these days where the sacrifices to the cult of consumerism are made.

... On a more personal note: I grew up with the military, and while I do support the people, I have also seen so many places offer discounts to veterans rather than teachers and other public servants. I have also seen those same veterans get home loans and services that they dont really need, but get them because they can, while my disabled students are denied simple things like proper food, and mental health services. While I cant say this is true for all veterans, I know its true for many that I have encountered.

The opinion is maybe unpopular in some more propaganda driven countries, but not that unpopular as you might think.

I'll leave this topic with what in my opinion is the only truth regarding veterans. You truely honor your vets by not creating new ones! Everything else is lipservice at best.

[Decknowledgy]

Simply put, if you're signed up to PCD's email ads, you realize that every other day is "A STH Day" with decks related or associated to that STH. It's a marketing scheme that PCD often uses but a lot of those days aren't even recognized but just made up by PCD to boost sales. I have no issue of Veterans Day vs. Singles' Day on 11/11 since in my context both aren't very relevant for me, but just to note that PCD has this tendency to exploit this celebration of some random day to boost sales.

*(not to even mention that PCD often uses skanty female figures/showgirls on their Instagram to market decks, as told by @PipChick hehe... an approach that won't age well much longer)

[willroya]

Last year PCD did a singles day promo that was very well received by our customers, so I decided to do it again.

I did not feel it was appropriate to associate a sale with Veterans Day, as I feel that is a holiday to honor rather then promote a sale.

I will reconsider the promo for next year.

Please note that one of our employees significant other is a disabled veteran and that PCD donates several decks to active military and veteran's organizations.

Happy holiday's in advance to all of my fellow playing card enthusiasts!

[STLBluesNut]

Thank you for your post and reply to my email, @willroya. Until another member had mentioned it here, and then your response, I had not thought that having sale associated with Veteran's Day as inappropriate or disrespectful. In my mind, it would be bringing awareness to the day not piggy backing off of it to make a buck.

Your reply this issue goes a long way. Thank you.

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[JacksandJokers]

I'll just leave this here:

[BaconWise]

Will those KWP decks be for sale only for subscribers or the general public?

[hsbc]

That's a screenshot of the Members Only page. The top left is a Green Edition Triple Set

Green Gilded is $60, Black Gilded is $80, triple Green set is $172