Horsemen - Kickstarter 1st June

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Although I'm not surprised, I am disappointed because it looked like it was going to be a good deck. I don't think this was a scam. It is a project that fell apart, and he couldn't put it right. These are the risks any creator takes and the chances of this happening may indeed be greater when backing a rookie creator. But at some point, all of the creators we support right now were rookies as well. This one is unfortunate, but it was apparent early on that it wasn't going to end well. Now about those NPCCD decks...
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I agree, as much as people say "I dont want KS to be a storefront" this is the alternative when you really need the money to do the project, sometimes it just doesn't work out. At least they are refunding as much as they can.
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james001a wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:08 pm Although I'm not surprised, I am disappointed because it looked like it was going to be a good deck. I don't think this was a scam. It is a project that fell apart, and he couldn't put it right. These are the risks any creator takes and the chances of this happening may indeed be greater when backing a rookie creator. But at some point, all of the creators we support right now were rookies as well. This one is unfortunate, but it was apparent early on that it wasn't going to end well. Now about those NPCCD decks...
I have to agree with the "not a scam" opinion. Aside from knowing Tony, I have prototypes of the two main decks and I don't think a scammer would bother having those printed.
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Sounds extremely unlucky. When it comes to KS, if you expect to win every time - Don't gamble
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I feel for Tony. He didn't help matters with the silence, but he went through a lot and there is plenty of animosity on KS surrounding that project. I wanted this to get produced so it's a sad day. I think it took a lot to make the update. Had he remained silent, the deck still wouldn't have been produced, so it says a lot that he offered an explanation with the bad news.
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BaconWise wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:01 pm I feel for Tony. He didn't help matters with the silence, but he went through a lot and there is plenty of animosity on KS surrounding that project. I wanted this to get produced so it's a sad day. I think it took a lot to make the update. Had he remained silent, the deck still wouldn't have been produced, so it says a lot that he offered an explanation with the bad news.
I wonder if another producer could figure out a way to make these cards a reality!
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The comments on KS are brutal and honestly makes me sick. I don’t know what is true or not but people are really out for blood.

I guess everyone forgets that KS is not a guarantee and you should never gamble with money you can’t afford to lose.
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I'm a little conflicted on this one. I had already written this one off, so I'm not upset at all. And with all that's happened , him coming back and writing this up knowing what some of the response would be is appreciated and took some guts. Still, it feels like he's being somewhat dishonest about the circumstances here a bit and shifting a lot of the blame. The bit about Cartamundi supposedly canceling the project because of a few people reaching out to them trying to get info in particular didn't sit well with me. Also, couldn't the printed by Cartamundi part on the tucks have been covered with a sticker if he went with a different printer? Regardless of all that though, I'm glad to see him posting something as it means that he's at least somewhat doing better. Hopefully things continue to improve for him. In the end it's just cards and there are far more important things.
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The coin is amazing. Will pick up a set if this project gets revived one way or another.
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Unfortunate for the project but good that people aren't in a void anymore.
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Timmargh wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 7:12 pm
james001a wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:08 pm Although I'm not surprised, I am disappointed because it looked like it was going to be a good deck. I don't think this was a scam. It is a project that fell apart, and he couldn't put it right. These are the risks any creator takes and the chances of this happening may indeed be greater when backing a rookie creator. But at some point, all of the creators we support right now were rookies as well. This one is unfortunate, but it was apparent early on that it wasn't going to end well. Now about those NPCCD decks...
I have to agree with the "not a scam" opinion. Aside from knowing Tony, I have prototypes of the two main decks and I don't think a scammer would bother having those printed.

Tis a shame, I tried to ask if I could I do a late pledge when I started collecting as I missed this project. Back then I was not aware of the situation.

That said, would you be willing to sell one of the prototypes Tim as I really like the art.
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krystalie wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:18 am Tis a shame, I tried to ask if I could I do a late pledge when I started collecting as I missed this project. Back then I was not aware of the situation.

That said, would you be willing to sell one of the prototypes Tim as I really like the art.
I would consider selling the Collectors Edition.
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If the producer consents, such a deck can be scanned and reprinted by MPC for a limited print run. Just a thought.
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kevork wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:20 pm If the producer consents, such a deck can be scanned and reprinted by MPC for a limited print run. Just a thought.
He could probably release the card files to backers to do just that also.
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