The Planets: Mercury by Vanda now live on KS

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The Planets: Mercury by Vanda now live on KS

Unread postby serubi » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:43 am  

"A deck of Stellar Playing Cards — Vanda Artists Series designed by Srdjan Vidakovic"



This is the first deck in a series of 8.

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Re: The Planets: Mercury by Vanda

Unread postby vasta41 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:24 am  

So much to like here... and so much to hate. Obviously amazing tuck, good courts, cool pip arrangement, nice backs and USPCC printing. Also $10 per deck is a good price, even if shipping is a few bucks more (hoping it's included but doubt it). I hate how this will be an 8 deck series (and not because I think it should be a 9 deck series but I digress). I would have liked this much better if there were just two campaigns of 4 each instead. In fact I think this method of one-at-a-time might backfire when the series gets to Jupiter because people will be board of it.
For now I will keep an eye on this because the artwork and customizations are very nice but 8 different KS campaigns will be pushing my ADD.
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Re: The Planets: Mercury by Vanda

Unread postby Räpylätassu » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:56 am  

Maybe if this does well, they can fund multiple planets in one campaign in the future so that they don't have to do 8 different campaigns. This is amazing design but Vanda is not a huge name on the market yet and funding big projects in Kickstarter is really challenging right now. So I do understand the start with just one planet.
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Re: The Planets: Mercury by Vanda

Unread postby badpete69 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:47 am  

It is kind of easy to figure out where this guy gets his inspirations. The tuck is obviously a T11 clone type tuck and the back is a cheap copy of Lorenzo's Heretic decks... Plus eight different campaigns......Probably a pass
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Re: The Planets: Mercury by Vanda

Unread postby Bradius » Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:46 pm  

I do like the looks of it, but honestly another huge set? I also tend to run away from those when I can.
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Re: The Planets: Mercury by Vanda

Unread postby davegk » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:09 pm  

Wow, you guys are brutal!

In case you haven't seen it yet, check out the thread about this deck on the drafting board:
http://www.unitedcardists.com/viewtopic ... 10a43bda46

@vasta41:
Thanks for the positive comments! As much as I would love to launch the entire series as a single campaign, I can't afford to pay up front for the artist fees required to create that much custom artwork and I wouldn't want to run a campaign with artwork that wasn't already finalized and proofs already approved by the printers. Also, the cost and logistics of printing 8 decks all at once and trying to sell enough of them through a single kickstarter campaign would be rather insane. While serious collectors may be interested in dropping enough cash at once to purchase 8 decks, I think the majority of backers wouldn't be able to spend that kind of money in one go and would have to pick a deck or two from the eight. The result would be insufficient funding to print the whole series and everyone loses. That said, if there is an exceptional amount of interest in the first deck, we may be able to fund the rest of the series in fewer campaigns.

@badpete69:
Sorry to hear you're not a fan of the artwork. I think Srdjan has done an amazing job with the illustrations for this deck and many others are very impressed and excited about the results. While I appreciate Lorenzo's work and think he's a fantastic artist as well, I assure you the design for this deck was in no way copied (and certainly not cheaply copied) from the Heretic design and any similarities are coincidental. If you look hard enough you'll find that all design looks similar to something else that already exists. Nobody is forcing you to purchase all 8 decks...if you like it, buy it.

I look forward to seeing you all at the launch on sunday!
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Re: The Planets: Mercury by Vanda

Unread postby Bradius » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:24 pm  

Your look is much more modern than Lorenzo's Heretic deck. Are you going to use different court card designs and such for each deck in the series?
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Re: The Planets: Mercury by Vanda

Unread postby davegk » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:47 pm  

Bradius wrote:Your look is much more modern than Lorenzo's Heretic deck. Are you going to use different court card designs and such for each deck in the series?


Yes, different court designs for each planet.
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Re: The Planets: Mercury by Vanda

Unread postby Azazaaz » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:01 pm  

Yes! I'm gonna get milked 8 times by shipping fees and customs charges! I can't wait!
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Re: The Planets: Mercury by Vanda

Unread postby Bikefanatic » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:39 pm  

My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Nine Pies.

I guess the decks will be released in that order without Earth.
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Re: The Planets: Mercury by Vanda

Unread postby Bradius » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:54 pm  

8 decks: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. Pluto is bumped out. Although, based on the recent New Horizon's flyby, it is a really interesting dwarf planet or whatever with a lot of geologic activity going on (and a cool heart shape on it).
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Re: The Planets: Mercury by Vanda

Unread postby serubi » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:57 pm  

Reading all this critique makes me want to express how I feel about this deck.

I followed David's thread back when the deck was revealed in February, and I really feel like he and Srdjan Vidakovic have listened to the community.

The tuck case definitely has a Theory11 vibe going on, which I'm 100% fine with. It looks so good :)

And the court cards... well, they look absolutely incredible in my opinion. It doesn't seem like any detail was spared.

Along with foil, embossing, custom seals (for LE), and a fully custom design, I think a $10 price tag suits it very well. Especially compared to the overpriced decks being released nowadays.

And with the rest of the decks in the series also having different court designs, I don't have a problem with getting the whole collection.

Recently, I feel like there has been a bunch of junk on Kickstarter (in the playing cards department anyways), so it's really refreshing to see a deck like this on Kickstarter.

I wish you the best of luck with this series!
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Re: The Planets: Mercury by Vanda

Unread postby davegk » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:36 pm  

@Azazaaz:
Not sure what to tell you...I apologize for offering you so many great products to purchase. If you'd prefer, I'm happy to let you pre-order the entire set up front for a lower shipping charge and I can ship you the entire 8 decks in one package after they've all been printed, though I'm not sure how long it will be.

@serubi:
Thanks for the support and kind words!

Also to note: The reward prices do not include fulfillment/shipping costs. I wish there was a way to produce and distribute playing cards at a much lower cost but unfortunately to get a high quality of artwork, printing, and fulfillment it costs money.
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Re: The Planets: Mercury by Vanda

Unread postby shermjack » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:09 pm  

The decks look great, Dave and I am definitely in for a pair! :ugdance: Looking forward to the rest of the series! :drool:
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Re: The Planets: Mercury by Vanda

Unread postby badpete69 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:12 pm  

shermjack wrote:The decks look great, Dave and I am definitely in for a pair! :ugdance: Looking forward to the rest of the series! :drool:


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Re: The Planets: Mercury by Vanda

Unread postby shaitani » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:37 am  

I'm very interested in these. Not quite sure what more one could ask for out of a deck. Everything custom, beautiful artwork, uspcc, pips, indices, backs, the tuck. Everything is solid.

The main drawback is the number in the series. But i like to think about it this way, just focus on this one deck as is, it meets every criteria for a deck you'd pick up. Like if Theory 11 was releasing this deck with this artwork, id pay the $10 +shipping no questions asked.

Legit question here, for projects in the last year or two, what is the average shipped cost for a single fully custom (non vector art) uspcc Deck?
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Re: The Planets: Mercury by Vanda now live on KS

Unread postby badpete69 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:05 pm  

Now live
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Re: The Planets: Mercury by Vanda

Unread postby Azazaaz » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:26 pm  

davegk wrote:@Azazaaz:
Not sure what to tell you...I apologize for offering you so many great products to purchase. If you'd prefer, I'm happy to let you pre-order the entire set up front for a lower shipping charge and I can ship you the entire 8 decks in one package after they've all been printed, though I'm not sure how long it will be.


Sorry if my message came across as harsh. I just wanted to point out how international backers may feel about the series. Anyway I'm in for 2+2 decks, love the artwork on these!
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Re: The Planets: Mercury by Vanda now live on KS

Unread postby montecarlojoe » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:13 am  

The international gripe is valid - though I'm in for 1+1 myself.

I've accepted that shipping is just part of the hobby for me now. However yesterday I ended up paying customs fees for two sets of rewards that I shouldn't have had to (since I did not actually purchase the decks). I'm not sure of the proper way to fill in the customs form for KS but some mark it as a gift (technically true) or quote the base materials value (also technically true) and that usually falls below the tax threshold.

(incidentally I also payed the fee for the latest UUSi sponsored tarot - but that was a commercial transaction so I had no complaints there.)

Though I should make clear I am NOT suggesting Vanda playing cards has done this!
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Re: The Planets: Mercury by Vanda now live on KS

Unread postby Bradius » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:56 pm  

Congrats on a good start to your campaign. Ghaah. I'm in too. I am glad this is not like some other decks like the zodiac decks that don't create new face cards. I also might be interested in just holding my decks until the whole campaign is over to save on shipping. Other than that, you have me hooked too. Good luck.
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