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No Borders by Joker and the Thief [KS] (ill. Pedro Oyarbide)

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Re: No Borders by Joker and the Thief [KS]

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I don't know if I'll be in for those, but those backs are fun.
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the joker looks like what i would expect from them but those backs do not. in this case, i dont think it is a good thing. it can be good to offer something different than your normal stuff but i dont think this is one of those good departures.
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Re: No Borders by Joker and the Thief [KS]

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AoS you mean.
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indeed, i did mean AoS
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Re: No Borders by Joker and the Thief [KS]

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I'm far from being head over heels into any of those back designs but one or two are something I can see myself purchasing. I suspect all having the same courts though and that means they're either very standard-ish (like HappySad or Victory) or don't fit the backs very well (since they're very different). I'll be happy if I'm proven wrong.
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Re: No Borders by Joker and the Thief [KS]

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NO BORDERS 001. DESIGNATION “GRAND-PRIX”

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NO BORDERS 002. DESIGNATION “CUTBACK”

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NO BORDERS 003. DESIGNATION “THUNDERBOLT”

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NO BORDERS 004. DESIGNATION “HONEYCOMB”

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NO BORDERS 005. DESIGNATION “CRAZY BACK”

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NO BORDERS 006. DESIGNATION “SOVEREIGN”

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Re: No Borders by Joker and the Thief [KS]

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Called it. Surprises do come seldom these days.
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rousselle wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:52 pmI very much want this in my collection, but at long last... I have to stop the insanity.
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Re: No Borders by Joker and the Thief [KS]

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Nice, finally more borderless designs! A welcome surprise and since I am only into Gambling stuff lately, this might be the first purchase after a year of no new playing cards.
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Re: No Borders by Joker and the Thief [KS]

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After the great courts of Maidens, Wayfarers, and Pyschonauts, their last few releases have been their standard courts which I'm personally not a big fan of. I'll pass on these but I am a sucker for borderless designs 😮💨
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Re: No Borders by Joker and the Thief [KS]

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For the love of Pete!

All four of these backs are One-Way, and that is KILLING the OCD part of me!!!

Why why WHY? :ugthink:


Oh well, these weren't my cup of tea to begin with....


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NO BORDERS 001. DESIGNATION “GRAND-PRIX”

NO BORDERS 002. DESIGNATION “CUTBACK”

NO BORDERS 003. DESIGNATION “THUNDERBOLT”

NO BORDERS 006. DESIGNATION “SOVEREIGN”

Court cards will be the same across all decks
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Re: No Borders by Joker and the Thief [KS]

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yeah, i feel like these are pretty lazy decks. no tuck design, unless you consider a hole in a box a design. small repeating pattern on the backs. pasted on custom standard courts that are already made. disappointing considering some of their previous decks. it seems their brand has devolved into one of recolors and making the easiest possible designs. still better than just a circle or an f but that isnt saying much.
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Unless these are bundled for a super nice price I wont be backing them . Looking at past records ,they might launch gilded edition of each and maybe multiple gilded edition of each.
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th4mo wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:32 pm For the love of Pete!

All four of these backs are One-Way, and that is KILLING the OCD part of me!!!

Why why WHY? :ugthink:


Oh well, these weren't my cup of tea to begin with....


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NO BORDERS 001. DESIGNATION “GRAND-PRIX”

NO BORDERS 002. DESIGNATION “CUTBACK”

NO BORDERS 003. DESIGNATION “THUNDERBOLT”

NO BORDERS 006. DESIGNATION “SOVEREIGN”

Court cards will be the same across all decks
No. 005 is also one way
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All six back designs are by Pedro Oyarbide
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Courts as well, haha.
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The tuck box will be constructed of premium black paper stock featuring a heavy blind emboss, where the texture makes the design visible - completely devoid of ink or foil. The main feature is the series die-cut window on the back of the tuck box, allowing you to identify each deck. Sealed with our Joker and the Thief foil and perforated manufacturer seal, providing this series with a subtle flair that we think is incredibly effective.
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Re: No Borders by Joker and the Thief [KS] (ill. Pedro Oyarbide)

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Sounds like a lot of spin for a cheap tuck. Just print the card back on the tuck like so many tucks have.
With a window every deck will need a sleeve to protect the cards
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Honeybee wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:05 am Sounds like a lot of spin for a cheap tuck. Just print the card back on the tuck like so many tucks have.
With a window every deck will need a sleeve to protect the cards
That is true . But I really like the OG prototype tuck approach , somehow looks really cool to me maybe cause I liked the White Centurions once . Well it all comes to pricing if these are priced well in a bundle I would say a solid hit but if like 15-20$ or above then skip for me
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$25 shipped for these makes them a solid no for me.
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Adamthinks wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 2:41 pm $25 shipped for these makes them a solid no for me.
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for one deck? oh hell no. i was guessing $15 each before shipping and that is a few bucks too much. $25 shipped makes them around $20 each. these are not my thing and i wouldnt buy them at any price.
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Re: No Borders by Joker and the Thief [KS] (ill. Pedro Oyarbide)

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Waaaay to expensive for what they are. Too bad.
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Honeybee wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:05 am Sounds like a lot of spin for a cheap tuck. Just print the card back on the tuck like so many tucks have.
With a window every deck will need a sleeve to protect the cards
Embossing and die-cutting is not really that cheap. Just as an FYI.
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I know this is your field but would just front and bottom embossing plus a die-cut be cheaper than printing? (of which it has none)
I can't help but compare the tuck with the relatively cheap Bicycle Bone Riders from 2016 that I just picked up
The Bone Riders have heaps of embossing (on 4 panels) and printing as opposed to a die-cut
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Re: No Borders by Joker and the Thief [KS] (ill. Pedro Oyarbide)

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In general printing is the cheapest. Glossy papers are cheaper than matte papers. Cold foiling and embossing can be done inline (no extra machine and run needed) as well and would be the second cheapest option. Hot foiling and die-cutting need and extra machine which is mostly running slower ergo is more expensive, even if you cut the printing part like in our case here.
Take everything with a grain of salt though since, I've worked in book printing and other than the publically available info, I have no real clue about the current capabilities of modern card manufacturing.
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