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This post contains all Antique decks
Starting with a full 52 card pack from Hunt & Sons, Single figure Standard English woodblock pattern Type 1 with stencilled colouring. George the 3rd "Garter Ace" Plate No.35 which dates the deck to 1812.
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A De La Rue Bezique deck (32 cards). Post frizzle Ace with unturned courts ,which dates the deck between 1862-1870.
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Great Mogul printed and published by L. Biermans of Belgium c.1890`s
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And a James English Bezique deck to finish, this variation of the Ace of spades (& Co added to James English)dates the deck between 1873 and 1885.
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Russian decks for this post. Starting off with "Gzhel" designed by Irina Bordey and published by Zadira in 2006.
The deck takes its name from and is inspired by a type of Russian ceramics.
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"Sea Deck" published by Presentprom in 2016. I don`t know the designer i`m afraid :cry:
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"Atlas" published by Zadira in 2015. The courts a redrawing of the classic Atlas cards were designed by Irina Bordey.
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And Finally a pack of "Slavic" cards produced by The Colour Printing Plant of St Petersburg in 1997.
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And with this post its back to the usual 3 decks & a waddingtons to finish 8-)
First off is a Karl Gretch "Nursery Rhymes" Transformation deck produced for the 10th Anniversary of the English Playing Card Society.
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"Icelandic" designed by Gudmundur Thorstensson .This set published by V.A.S.S of Germany in 1977 is a reprint of a deck originally called "Islensk L`Hombre Spil No.1" that was published by Bjorni P. Magnusson of Reykjavik in 1923.
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A couple of Standard decks from Paul Lamont Games of the U.K.
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And a double Waddingtons set to finish off today.i just love the dog`s eyes :ugthink:
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Jase,

I've been very intrigued by the many beautiful Russian decks you have posted and wanted to get one for myself. I'd been looking at some on Ebay but they all cost a bit more than I was willing to pay. Last week I was in our local Goodwill second hand shop and I came across a Russian deck opened but in perfect condition! The cost; one dollar. I was beyond excited. There is no English on the box so I have idea where they came from. When I get a chance I'll scan them. I'd like to send the pics to you and see if you can tell me anything about them.

Without your postings, I probably wouldn't have looked twice at them. Thanks for providing so much inspiration. Now I just have to find a Waddingtons deck!
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Jock,

I am in awe. What a collection! Thanks for sharing (I assume!) SOME of it with us all!
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flashcards wrote:Jase,

I've been very intrigued by the many beautiful Russian decks you have posted and wanted to get one for myself. I'd been looking at some on Ebay but they all cost a bit more than I was willing to pay. Last week I was in our local Goodwill second hand shop and I came across a Russian deck opened but in perfect condition! The cost; one dollar. I was beyond excited. There is no English on the box so I have idea where they came from. When I get a chance I'll scan them. I'd like to send the pics to you and see if you can tell me anything about them.

Without your postings, I probably wouldn't have looked twice at them. Thanks for providing so much inspiration. Now I just have to find a Waddingtons deck!
Hiya Flashcards :D
So glad my thread has given you some inspiration :D that`s what its all about.
I would love to see the deck you brought and help you if i can...just post it here if you like ,so everyone can have a look, and i`ll try and give as much info i can or if someone else knows about them they can chime in.
mook wrote:Jock,

I am in awe. What a collection! Thanks for sharing (I assume!) SOME of it with us all!
Thanks for the comment`s Mook :D My collection is mainly in boxes :cry: i have no display case`s like your homemade one ,which i am impressed with by the way 8-) .

Here`s some more cards
First up a Worshipful company installation pack from 1991 celebrating the 500th anniversary of Henry the 8th`s birthday.
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A couple of modern decks next
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Milanesi Plastificate by Del Negro of Italy
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And finally a double advertising deck from Waddingtons.
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Thanks for looking at my cards :D -jase-
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:drool: :drool: :drool:
An avalanche of decks has hit the Jase thread...

That Hunt & Sons Garter Ace deck is fantastic!
Over 200 years old :shock:
I would be over the moon just having an early deck with the Hewson courts.
:ugdance: Congratulations on your third anniversary here, and thank you for sharing this great find! :D

Also impressed you have the EPCS transformation deck.
I like the back on your Slavic deck. That's the first design back, rather than pictorial, that I remember seeing with that deck.

Was the "Unique Style" deck sold in England with those courts because of war time shortages?

I'm curious about the Biermans Great Mogul. From the wear on your cards it looks like the paper is rough on the faces? That's the same as my Aurelia decks from some years later (likely by Van Genechten), which were intended for sale in India. Do you know if yours was also an export deck? I thought that the rough paper was only used on the less expensive exports, especially decks sold to be burnt temple offerings in India. Also, does yours have smooth backs? I originally thought it was a thin paper applied to the uncuct sheets, but looking again now, with a loupe, the paper surface seems to have the same quality as the fronts, only smoothed by ink. What does it look like on your deck?

Great decks Jase. I look forward to seeing some of them in the Worldwide, along with a particular Grand entry that is coming ;)
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Hiya Dazzelguts :D
I`m very pleased to have the Garter Ace Pack, It`s been on my "to do list" for a while. And the EPCS deck by karl grech was a lucky find, a bit expensive..maybe, but i thought it may be the only time i`d get a chance at buying one as so few were made.
Yes that`s the first Slavic deck i`ve seen with a geometic pattern on the back as well, My other Slavic decks have the picture of the Russian Hero on his white horse.
The Unique Style deck was sold in england during the war ,As well as my Daily Sketch Pack with the Paris pattern court`s, This was due to a shortage of Paper arriving from Scandinavia.
I`ve Compared the cards from the Biermans deck and from the Aurella box set and they are basically the same kind of rough card, although the biermans back is not as smooth as the cards from the aurelia set. The Aurelia Box set seems to have been printed better than the biermans with sharper clearer images and the paint being clear and solid as opossed to the slightly fuzzy outlines and the splotchy colouring of the Biermans. I`m not sure if they were intended for export, but judging by card stock and quality of printing i`d say they were for burning.

Here`s some Waddingtons :D
A cool Bridge set to Begin.
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A double Barrel shaped Advertising set
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A double set from the Past Masters Series
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And finally a double and a single deck to finish today.
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Here is the Russian deck I picked up for a dollar. I'm sorry the tuck front is so dark. I tried to lighten up the text as much as possible. I'm hoping that Jase, or anyone else, can give us some information on it. Thanks.

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You can see this deck in the Russian thread of our Worldwide:
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Towards the bottom of the first page. Lots of info there from Idoctor.

The original deck was issued at a world expo of 1937. Your deck is one of the 150 year anniversary ones, for the St. Petersburg/Leningrad factory, which has itself been reprinted many times in that box style. In the lower right corner of the box front is I-??r. I can't distinguish it in your scan but the 2 numbers are the year your particular deck was printed.

It's a beautiful deck that has been reprinted many many times. Good find getting it in one of the anniversary sets.
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Thanks for the info Dazzleguts! I believe the date on the box is '77. I didn't think or care if the deck was rare or not. I'm just happy to finally have one of those beautiful Russian decks Jase is always showing. I'll head over to the Russian page and check it out. BTW, do you know if it is already in P52 and if so, what I should search for to find it?

Edit: I found it on P52 under Palekh, Black
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:) Glad to help.
I know Jase was busy - you should check out the posting of the Mamluk cards that Jase made in the Egypt thread of Worldwide. :shock:
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Hiya Flashcards :D
The Palekh deck was the one that turned me on to Russian decks in the first place, a real beauty. i would love to get a pack that was printed by the St Petersburg factory (hopefully i will find one at a good price)
A great find at only a dollar 8-)
I believe you are looking at the wrong date for your pack. The number to look at is at the very bottom on the right.
Like dazzelguts i just can`t make it out,It looks to me like l-82r which means it is from 1982.
Many thanks to my time-travelling buddy Dazzelguts for helping out with the information on the palekh deck :D

Here`s some cards.
"Das Soldaten Tarock" Piatnik edition No.286599, Printed in 2009.
This deck is a reprint of a deck printed by paitnik in 1918 titled "Allerfeinste Soldat-Tarock"
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A pair of Gustav Klimt Boxsets from Piatnik. Adele (No.250347) Fritza (No.250149)
Both sets have Piatniks own Standard English Pattern court cards.
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Great Russian Standard ,Printed by Piatnik No.2133.
This set reprints a pair of Atlas Decks from between 1860 to 1917.The Jokers are Piatnik`s own.
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"Buern-schnapser" Printed by Piatnik No.1756.The cards from this set show the Austro-Czech version of the Wilhelm Tell Pattern.
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And a few Waddingtons
This first set has gilded edges, The anonymous Ace used on their higher-range cards and the first joker, used by waddingtons up until 1942.
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A nice double set still with the Tax-wrappers.
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Another double set
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And a couple of advertising decks to finish today.
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Nice catch on the date Jase. That part with the OCT really looks like an October date in English, but it must be some other designation since it appears on the white Palekh that nECrO posted at the beginning of the Russia thread, as well as on my white and black Palekh decks, always with OCT but different #s.

The "Das Soldaten Tarock" is beautiful. Very painterly. Love how they made the images full card to really show that off. Looks like WW1 was the subject?
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So I came upon this seller on this one vintage selling website, who has a large collection of vintage decks for sale (for pretty high prices).

I just thought that Jase and others reading this thread might find something interesting from there. Anyways here's the link: https://www.rubylane.com/shop/twoforhisheels/ilist" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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dazzleguts wrote:Nice catch on the date Jase. That part with the OCT really looks like an October date in English, but it must be some other designation since it appears on the white Palekh that nECrO posted at the beginning of the Russia thread, as well as on my white and black Palekh decks, always with OCT but different #s
Hiya Dazzelguts, Yes very confusing :ugthink: i thought that was an actual date when i first started getting the decks as well. If you look at my "slavic" deck from the previous page, it has a prefix of TY instead of the OCT.Not sure what it means. But the actual dating of the deck is from the L-##r At the bottom left corner.
dazzleguts wrote:The "Das Soldaten Tarock" is beautiful. Very painterly. Love how they made the images full card to really show that off. Looks like WW1 was the subject?
I agree a beauty for sure , The courts are truly remarkable and the 21 tarok cards are stunning, yes the paintings are from the great war. I`m always gutted when i can only show so many of the cards...but thats what the Worldwide Time Machine forum is for ;) aintitso
Räpylätassu wrote:So I came upon this seller on this one vintage selling website, who has a large collection of vintage decks for sale (for pretty high prices).

I just thought that Jase and others reading this thread might find something interesting from there. Anyways here's the link: https://www.rubylane.com/shop/twoforhisheels/ilist" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks for the link Roope. :D :D Always good to see these sellers site`s, even if its for price comparison..
I had a quick look, will take a good look when i`ve got some time off, While the prices may be high ,i have seen higher but then i have seen a lot lower as well...Who knows there may be that "ONE" deck that i`ve been looking for, thats worth (for me anyway) spending that little bit extra.

Here`s some Cherry Coloured Funk.
First up is a De La Rue Piquet set. 36 cards per deck with both decks having the same back design and colour, D6 court cards with Medium size index dates the deck from 1890 to 1910.
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Next is Jass Plus printed by AGMuller of Switzerland. The deck was designed by Muster Geschutzt in 2001
Scans of the full set of court cards can be seen in the switzerland section of the Worldwide time machine.
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Rockwell International. I have not been able to find any info on these beauties i`m afraid .American printer i think?? The court cards are fantastic.. shame about the back :roll:
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And finally today a pair of "named" Barribal backs from Waddingtons dated around 1932-1940.
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Got these MPC Impression Kickstarter decks in yesterday.
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The 1989 worshipful company installation set. Celebrating the 800th anniversary of the City Of London having a Lord Mayor. the backs, one yellow border and one light blue border shows a portrait of the first Lord Mayor, Henry Fitzalkine Knight, Approx 500 packs were made.
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Sharp`s Oracle, printed by Nintendo of Japan in 1966. The courts are repeating unfortunately.
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And finally today a double advertising set from Waddingtons.
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Love the Spade Ace in the Oracle deck.
The courts all look like zombies with those blank eyes. :shock:
Also qualifies as a no-revoke deck with the 4 pip colours.
Great find Jase!
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dazzleguts wrote:Love the Spade Ace in the Oracle deck.
The courts all look like zombies with those blank eyes.
Also qualifies as a no-revoke deck with the 4 pip colours.
Great find Jase!
Hey Buddy..Thanks,yeh the one Nintendo deck that i was on the lookout for...i just happened to find after discussing it with you in a PM after about a year of looking...you must be my lucky charm
:idea: By the way i`m would really like a pack of Waddingtons with the first discarded Ace....(well you never know)

Here`s a few sheets of Paper
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In the latter half of the nineteenth century several German publishers assembled into portfolios as many as a hundred large, full-colour sheets of pictures of unrelated subjects.The Munich firm of K. Braun and Fr. Schneider in 1852 published "Munchner Bilderbogen"(Munich Picture Sheets), which included a transformation pack with one suit per sheet.
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It is not known who invented the designs and made the pictures, but the initials "JB" appear on seventeen of the cards. Sometimes the sheets can be found without colour.
The printing was done by at least four printers, and each sheet had a short poem in German, Dutch or English. There were at least eight editions in German.
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The English-language edition was numbered 21,22,23,24 and has two sets of names at the bottom of the sheets.
on the left - Leipzig: William Engelmann and on the right - London: A.S. Joseph, Myers & Co - William Tegg & Co. It would seem that the English-language sheets were printed in Germany but distributed by several publishers in London.
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I've been trying for that Waddingtons, but it remains elusive :(
Maybe we need to discuss it more. ;)

Your "pieces of paper" would sure look good as a deck of cards, like in that experiment you did a while back with reproducing a deck?
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dazzleguts wrote:Your "pieces of paper" would sure look good as a deck of cards, like in that experiment you did a while back with reproducing a deck?
Great Idea ...Leave it with me ;)

Here`s a full 52 card deck from De La Rue. Old Frizzle Ace and D3 court cards dates the set between 1840-1862.
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A pack of New Era Concave Playing Cards. Printed by the Standard Playing Card Co of Chicago and imported into Britain by L.G. Sloan LTD. Scans and more information on these cards can be seen on Page 2 of the North American section of the Worldwide Time Machine.
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A pack of Piemontesi Plastificate printed by Del Negro of Italy.
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And a new book for the collection, The Best of Barribal is a 50 page full colour guidebook of every back design by Barribal that was printed by Waddingtons. Every back design is shown in full colour as well as information such as names, reference numbers and dates of production. There are also pages from early Waddington trade catalogues reproduced in the book as well as a number of pre 1925 postcards from various other London printers.
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An all patience post starting with "La suisse historique" printed by AGMuller of Switzerland.
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Next is a single deck titled "Duett" printed by Esselte Obergs AB of Sweden.
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A double set showing the Berliner Pattern printed by Coeur of Germany.
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And a pair of Waddingtons to finish the post
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The Worshipful Company` s installation deck from 1976, the backs ,one Pink and one Blue shows a picture of William Caxton, Englands first printer. The deck commemorates the quincentenary of the establishment of Caxton`s press in Westminister in 1476.
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Cartes Marbrees printed by L. Biermans of Belgium. Scans of this deck can be seen in the Worldwide section.
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The first Gigposters art deck.
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And a pair of advertising decks from Waddingtons to finish today.
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Räpylätassu wrote:If we were a nation, this thread would be our national treasure.
:D :D :D Wow thanks Roope for your kind comments...it makes me feel sparkling inside :oops:, altough many may think "National Lampoon" rather than "National Treasure" :lol: :lol: :lol:

Here`s some Pearlydew drops drop...

Firts up a De La Rue bezique deck dated between 1862-1870. Both sets have Identical back and are housed in a contemporary "Mauchline ware" box. I Used to live in a small village called Drongan in Ayrshire Scotland, a village not far from Mauchline where this box was made.
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Next up is Luxus Skatkarten, printed by FX Schmid of Germany. Scans and more information on this deck can be seen in the Worldwide Time Machine.
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A couple of Rufford brand decks printed by De La Rue exclusively for Boots The Chemist.
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And Finally today a couple of Waddingtons Advertising Decks.
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Thanks for looking at my cards :D -jase-
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I think you flustered Jase a bit there Roope ;)

So the Cocteau Twins are serving up the drug of UC in your thread Jase?
Great decks being that addictive a substance I would have to agree.

You've been showing a lot of antiques lately, and this one in a contemporary wooden box. Very cool 8-)
What does the paper feel like? Does it vary a lot between the different old deck makers?
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dazzleguts wrote:So the Cocteau Twins are serving up the drug of UC in your thread Jase?
HaHa..i`m "Head over Heels" you caught the reference ;) i popped one a few posts back and was going to continue for a while to see if anyone caught what i was up to...and you did it after two :lol: :lol: must be your Iceblink luck.
Lizzy`s voice just sends shivers up my spine :ugthink: :ugthink: .

Yeh the antique decks are all the same card stock with no finish, not rough but not glossy smooth either (I`m not a very good deck reviewer :lol: :lol: ) The cards in my collection start having smooth finishes at basically the same time as round corners comes in around 1880`s that area.
I wasn`t planning on another post but here`s ame more cards,
Here`s a Reynolds besique set from the same time period as the De La Rue from the last post around 1862-1870.
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A Double polish deck titled "Karty do gry z Krakowa" or "Playing cards from Cracow" Printed by Trefi of Krakow,poland. I did scans of an advertising deck with the same card faces and they can be seen in the poland section of worldwide.
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I have no clue about this next deck...but i like it :|
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And of course a Waddingtons double deck to finish
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Thanks for looking at my cards :D -jase-
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Well, Lizzie followed down the same Staircase as another talent that still has me Spellbound by the Pure sound of Swimming Horses and a Carousel. That and I googled the words you used... :lol:

Love that surreal looking ironwork pattern on the backs of the Besique. May I prevail upon you to send me a scan?

Really beautiful edition of the Krakow faces Jase. Nice find.
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dazzleguts wrote:Well, Lizzie followed down the same Staircase as another talent that still has me Spellbound by the Pure sound of Swimming Horses and a Carousel. That and I googled the words you used...

Love that surreal looking ironwork pattern on the backs of the Besique. May I prevail upon you to send me a scan?
Hi Dazzelguts, i sent you a e-mail..hope you like the scans..will message you again soon :D
An all Worshipful Company post to kick off today, Starting with a New 134 Page full colour book written by John Thorpe in 2000.
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The 2010 installation pack is called "The streets of London c.1811" and marks the 200th anniversary of the first complete pack of English Transformation cards titled "Metastasis" that was produced by S&J Fuller in 1811.
The back design show the city of London Dragons. Approx 350 decks with descriptive booklet were produced by Richard Edwards Ltd.
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The 1992 Pack celebrates the Bicenteneary of the Grant of Livery, 27 November 1792, The backs one Red border the other a orange border were designed by John Bainbridge at the collage of arms and shows the Arms of the Company supported by men in armour and dated. Approx 500 packs with leaflet were printed by Waddingtons.
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The last set from 1979 shows Margaret Thatcher at the door of No.10 Downing Street, London. To commemorate the election of the first woman Prime Minister of Great Britain. Approx 1200 double packs were issued by Waddingtons.
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