Fake Decks being sold on Ebay? Can anyone shed some light?

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Fake Decks being sold on Ebay? Can anyone shed some light?

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I found some postings for Arrco Studs (the "rare" back editions") with tax stamps, in near perfect condition.

They just sold for a bit over 200$ each, however, on closer inspection, I noticed that one of the decks has a 1940-1965 1 Deck APCCO Cancelled tax stamp, but a bar code on the bottom of the tuck.

this is not possible, correct? Are these fake seals/forgeries? Anyone have experience with this seller?

(I also noticed him selling a "Foil Edition" Ace Fulton Midnight. Possible that its DealingDueces?

Thanks in advance for any help. here are some of the pics i could find info for some clarification.

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Re: Fake Decks being sold on Ebay? Can anyone shed some ligh

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The first use of barcodes for purchases was in a supermarket in 1974, so those tax seals are quite impossible. Tax stamps can be bought, are collected, independent of the products that they usually sealed. This looks like someone bought some old tax stamps and applied them to relatively new decks.
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He's back with another pair of the Arcco Studs :?
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Re: Fake Decks being sold on Ebay? Can anyone shed some ligh

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Yeah, back with a bunch of new decks,


he says hes has hundreds of them like this, arrco backs with tax stamps
"Fake merchandise.. counterfeits?
These are 1000% percent vtg arrco stock n finish.
I researched it and asked ?s, opened several decks. I don't know why they were sealed with tax stamps, when bar codes put deck from 1970s.
Most likely done by a merchant, years later to seal the decks. Or were sealed by an arrco employee.
The decks were purchased in qty from an ex arrco employee.
The decks, 200 of them came sealed this way. I researched it and asked ?, but the cards are authentic real arrco stock. They are not hoyle junk.
Idk how or y stamps wer3 applies but that's how decks came.
I opened several of them and they are 1000% arrco tahoe stock n finish.
Most likely manufactured in 1970s and stamps were applied later. By merchant or arrco employee to seal the decks.
Tax stamps were given to merchants to apply later, and often was corrupt. Ppl hated paying the tax. So my best guess is stamps were applied to seal decks yrs later.
I got over 1k decks, all authentic.. that's how the cards came.
And they are identical stock n finish as arrco tahoe
They are not counterfeit or fake.
They are 1000% real"


"I have been an honest seller for years, and I never ripped any1 off...
The gold wrapped midnight fuel deck was a promo, and we removed it. It was just packaging for a promo.
And your accusations are Ludacris ...
I wrote and asked ?s and researched the arrco studs. And the cards are real arrco stock and finish. They are from 1970s with bar codes, and stamps were used to seal them.
Stamps were often applied years later for decks. So for you to say the cards are fake and counterfeit is just bogus..
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Looks like it is definately Dueling Dueces back at his old tricks, seller confirms it with the Midnight Fuel story.

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