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Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:16 pm
by sms69x
pstaehlin wrote:Where will these decks be on sale? Your website? Kickstarter?


This will not be a KS. Lotrek will sell these through his website when he's ready.

Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:21 pm
by Justin O.
sms69x wrote:
pstaehlin wrote:Where will these decks be on sale? Your website? Kickstarter?


This will not be a KS. Lotrek will sell these through his website when he's ready.


Hopefully AFTER production has finished, and he has reprinted the deck 8 times and made several significant changes

Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:57 pm
by RichK
Justin O. wrote:
sms69x wrote:
pstaehlin wrote:Where will these decks be on sale? Your website? Kickstarter?


This will not be a KS. Lotrek will sell these through his website when he's ready.


Hopefully AFTER production has finished, and he has reprinted the deck 8 times and made several significant changes


Justin,

That was LITURGY which was reprinted x number of times. No idea how many tries this took.

Yes it's easy to get confused with all of the decks we're waiting to be completed. :)

Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:16 pm
by Justin O.
RichK wrote:That was LITURGY which was reprinted x number of times.


Oh I'm not confused. Liturgy was not his only deck that saw delays and reprints. I just hope this deck doesn't get added to that list.

Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:38 pm
by RichK
Justin O. wrote:
RichK wrote:That was LITURGY which was reprinted x number of times.


Oh I'm not confused. Liturgy was not his only deck that saw delays and reprints. I just hope this deck doesn't get added to that list.


Me too.

Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:15 pm
by Leo_100
"There will be a 24-hour presale during which you can get the lowest numbers at a discounted price from my new website www.oathplayingcards.com, beginning on Tuesday 14 March at 12:01pm EST until Wednesday 12:00 noon EST . After the end of the presale, the deck will be launched on KS for a 3-day campaign beginning on Friday 17 March at 5:00pm EST." (Lotrek)

Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:16 pm
by jerichoholic
According to his email this will be on KS as well as his site despite being produced already. A clear violation of KS rules and the second person doing this now I believe.

I don't think anyone should be eager to give him any money since he has how many projects now that are overdue as it is. Any other creator did this type of stuff people would be up in arms.

Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:35 pm
by Leo_100
jerichoholic wrote:According to his email this will be on KS as well as his site despite being produced already. A clear violation of KS rules and the second person doing this now I believe.


He printed it already so we are guaranteed to receive it, without any production problems. I think that is a very good way now to proceed with his work having seen his previous projects. He is also taking all the risk of printing it before it is even funded!

But still, people are gonna hate...

Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:34 pm
by sunlance
Leo_100 wrote:
jerichoholic wrote:According to his email this will be on KS as well as his site despite being produced already. A clear violation of KS rules and the second person doing this now I believe.


He printed it already so we are guaranteed to receive it, without any production problems. I think that is a very good way now to proceed with his work having seen his previous projects. He is also taking all the risk of printing it before it is even funded!

But still, people are gonna hate...


Even though Lotrek (says he) has printed it, that is no guarantee of anything, including production problems. Source: me. I paid for Liturgy Bronze Edition last year, which was supposedly printed already at the time of sale as well, and just got an email today saying he's now printing it for the Nth (3rd? 4th? I've lost count) time, and we will be updated once it's done. So yeah, some of us reserve the right to be skeptical.

Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:13 am
by Bruno
youyouyou.
yes you,
you go buy some patience ....
then .... after holding your silence ....
go buy some more.
that's all I want to hear from you.
this ain't me shutting you down, ok ?
it is me telling you to shut >> yourself << down and wait patiently like the rest of us.
victor has nothing but a sour mind period.
finding fault with others, when imperfection is his only talent.
Hallooo !

Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:14 am
by jerichoholic
It would also be extremely nice if he just finished some projects instead of increasing his workload

Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:17 am
by Bruno
Said Allan.

victor said -
"I don't think"

Right !

and he certainly should not be ever thinking of speaking for others, now should he ?

Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:56 am
by Calypso
I just need to know how much this is gonna set me back. The sooner I get my kidney on the market, the better.

Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:01 am
by Bruno
Sing us a song mate and I'll send you Sacred .... !?
heheh

Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:25 am
by sinjin7
Bruno wrote:youyouyou.
yes you,
you go buy some patience ....
then .... after holding your silence ....
go buy some more.
that's all I want to hear from you.
this ain't me shutting you down, ok ?
it is me telling you to shut >> yourself << down and wait patiently like the rest of us.
victor has nothing but a sour mind period.
finding fault with others, when imperfection is his only talent.
Hallooo !

Bruno, you really need to stop telling people to shut down, be patient, or anything else when they comment about a designer you happen to support. Lotrek has had delays, and while it's unquestionable that he's handled this much better than others who fall behind in their projects, people have the right to express their impatience and skepticism if that's what they feel without you spouting off on them. We've seen this narrow-minded sycophancy from you with regards to Erik Mana, we don't need to see it again with Lotrek.

And seriously, can any of the mods, or Mike, please please please have a firm conversation with Bruno and Victor? I don't know how many threads have been hijacked by their incessant bickering. It's beyond the point of ridiculous. Please have Bruno PM Victor directly if he can't help himself from insulting Victor, and vice versa so we don't have to keep seeing these pathetic displays of pettiness. I have always been a proponent of freedom of expression on these boards, no matter how unpopular the expression may be, and am against censorship, but enough is enough!

As for Golden Oath, I have to really commend Lotrek for changing up how he produces and sells his playing cards for the benefit of his backers. I think his commitment to working out the kinks with his technically complex projects before he takes our money to ensure that we actually get what is promised in time is a great step in the right direction and should go far to appease some of the people who may be wary of Lotrek due to the delays in some of his past projects. The cards look breath-taking and I wish you the best of luck and a smooth campaign, Lotrek.

Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:32 am
by Bruno
Deflection.
I laughs at your contempts advocating for your own bias'. :lol:
If only victor could compose as per yer last para, which I entirely agrees with. :D

But, Bruno .... petty ?
Are you sure you want to stay with that err, :? judgment, baby ? ;)

I hear sinjin shifting the goalposts again so saved draft.
ho and hum.

Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:33 am
by Thedissident001
So many conflicted feeling about Lotrek right now.

I am one of the Black Mass backers waiting for a train that may one day come. Took serious exception to the manner it was put back numerous times and ultimately a guarantee issued as to when it would be sent to backers ... Only for that date to come and go without so much as an... Anything really.

But damned if this guy doesn't create some of the most spectacular decks of playing cards I have ever laid eyes on. Each deck of his I own I absolutely adore for its art, quality and execution.

Regardless, my confidence is dented with respect to his guarantees/promises - I simply don't trust what he says (and I frankly don't understand how anyone could given recent events).

I would need to see a photo with a room full of pre-packaged playing cards before I'd even contemplate handing money over in blind faith.

Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:42 am
by Bruno
Seriously.
I comprehend.
I have this image of Lotrek head down hard at work .... too busy to post responses to every query or question ....
If you think that man is not working for your better interests, by all means, do not part with your unequal response.
Buy aftermarket. :lol: :lol: :lol:
But sersly, the bloke puts himself through the ringer for his Art, and ultimately, Us.
Take a deep breath folks !
Enjoy th'suspense !

Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:40 am
by Mike Ratledge
Point well made, John.

Bruno, please twit yourself this time. We have heard Enough!

Victor, don't take this as a point for your side, you both need to quit the petty and at this point repetitive and frankly boring bickering.

Let's stay in topic and out of each other's crap, literally.

Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:45 am
by sms69x
So I was waitting for Lotrek's email to check how this one was going to be, an already finished and ready to ship deck or another it's ready but some serious shit can happen.
After reading his email and checking all the photos, I must say, I'm not sure if I will give him more of my money for a deck that for sure it's far from being ready to ship. The main reason I say this is because you haven't seen the deck yet, all Lotrek has shown are uncut sheets, we know that cutting these sheets may cause some serious hard problems, and also, Lotrek says the cards will have Air-pocket finish on the faces, from the photos I'm sure the finish isn't applayed yet, and here is my main concern... This could result in catastrophic results (as we have seen in recent past), so until I see a full deck of 54 cards packed and ready to ship, I'm not sure I will put my money once again upfront for Lotrek.

Also as jerichoholic pointed, going to KS with an already existing product, already marketed is against their rules... I'm sure that most of us will not pull the trigger on the report button, but there are a lot of envious people out there...