GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

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Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postby Justin O. » Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:40 am  

Also $97-something USD here. I don't mind the few dollars difference in price, but if it is something you would want to correct I want to help make you aware
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Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postby badpete69 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:42 am  

Bikefanatic wrote:I think I was over charged a lil bit. The total price converted to USD came to $97.50 each instead of $95.

That is not Lotrek's fault. The paypal exchange rate is always 1% ish worst as this is a way they make money. It has nothing to do with Lotrek or his store
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Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postby Lotrek » Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:51 am  

Bikefanatic wrote:I think I was over charged a lil bit. The total price converted to USD came to $97.50 each instead of $95.


??? Strange. Currency conversion gives $95 = Euro 89,271. I have set the price@ 89 euros.
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Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postby badpete69 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:52 am  

Yeah like I said paypal is notorious when it comes to exchange rates I once saw a 4% diffrence a few years back

EDIT: The current rate online shows 1 US dollar = .94 Euros

Paypal used this today on my transaction 1 US dollar = .9126 Euros They take their cut 3% difference
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Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postby Cheffboii » Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:32 pm  

Same here I had to pay an exchange rate as well!!! Came out to like $97.8? I think? For sure $97.?? Though. But everyone has to make $$$$ somehow. I could afford 1 and just hope I got there early enough to get a low number even though it was an hour after the release haha...thanks to all this snow we got!!...
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Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postby Azid » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:09 pm  

I wanted to be early for a low number but i got screwed by time conversion.... so in fact i was 30 min late... :shock:
Usually it's 6 hours time difference between EST & CEST.

But right now it's only 5 hours because USA already has summer time since March 12.
Here in Europe we switch to summer time on March 26. :evil:

Back to deck:
No Problems with your shop. ;)
The embossed tuck looks nice. Hopefully no problems come up and we get these decks soon.
Good luck Lotrek.
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Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postby 4.of.Clubs » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:26 pm  

Lotrek wrote:
Bikefanatic wrote:I think I was over charged a lil bit. The total price converted to USD came to $97.50 each instead of $95.


??? Strange. Currency conversion gives $95 = Euro 89,271. I have set the price@ 89 euros.


I used a credit with no foreign transaction fee with PayPal to charge 89 Euro and it came out to $95.00 exactly billed to my cc (amex exchange rate). Seems like it's PayPal making the money on conversion rate if you choose to pay in USD.


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Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek (wap)

Unread postby Cbkimble » Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:02 pm  

I just grabbed a deck and added a black/bronze uncut. It was just under $125 USD.
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Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postby Bikefanatic » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:26 pm  

badpete69 wrote:Yeah like I said paypal is notorious when it comes to exchange rates I once saw a 4% diffrence a few years back

EDIT: The current rate online shows 1 US dollar = .94 Euros

Paypal used this today on my transaction 1 US dollar = .9126 Euros They take their cut 3% difference



You're right. It's not his fault. I know Paypal takes their cut, I didn't figure it'll be this amount but it makes sense since it's a larger purchase then usual.
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Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postby RichK » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:18 am  

$95 or $97, whatever we got charge for ($97 for me), we knew it'd be expensive but worth it.

Good luck on getting the silver foiling finally done on Black Gold decks!
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Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postby Cardians » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:37 pm  

My understanding is that this deck is finished, so when can we expect to start seeing shipping notifications Lotrek??

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Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postby Justin O. » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:11 pm  

Cardians wrote:My understanding is that this deck is finished, so when can we expect to start seeing shipping notifications Lotrek??

Cheers,


I don't think we will see any shipping until he closes the buy window today and then, if not all of them were bought, he will run a kickstarter, and then shipping will likely not happen until after that. I think we are waiting to find out if he will go to KS or not
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Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postby Lotrek » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:20 pm  

There will be no KS as the deck almost sold out during the 24h presale. Pretty impressive! Only a few decks were left...
You will get your tracking numbers as scheduled, next Friday 24 March. :)

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Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postby Bruno » Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:15 pm  

And big thanks too, to Smeagol of Underbool ....

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Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postby sms69x » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:00 pm  

And once more Lotrek managed to fail on his word....

New shipping date: 31st March. Fingers crossed!!!
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Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postby shaitani » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:12 pm  

sms69x wrote:And once more Lotrek managed to fail on his word....

New shipping date: 31st March. Fingers crossed!!!


Lol at least he didn't say "guarantee" this time.

A week delay is completely within reason for the Lotrek process.
Most Kickstartists wouldn't even give an update if there had been a three week delay.
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Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postby RichK » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:26 pm  

sms69x wrote:And once more Lotrek managed to fail on his word....

New shipping date: 31st March. Fingers crossed!!!


But the cards are improved even more plus he got help from his printer. It's a win for a week delay (hopefully last delay).

He does have to stop finding improvements causing delays and apply them to future decks.
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Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postby Cardians » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:12 pm  

It never ceases to amaze me that every time Lotrek comments on UC or sends out a mass email from his website, I hear an ever so slightly violin playing.

This update is total BS. Waits to the day of shipping to inform everyone of his imperfection(s). I read somewhere that he was a FULL-TIME card maker. Makes me wonder, are you sure?

This is the email I received when I questioned him regarding my shipment of the Red Misaligned decks.

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When I receive an email like that, wait for his announcement to buy pre-sale and further read on March 17th that shipping will commence March 24th (only 7 days ago) to only find out there's NOW issues!?! Why couldn't this update come sooner. According to Lotrek's shipping update, he's been hand-polishing each sheet all week.

This is completely unacceptable and unprofessional on many levels.

I understand he wants to put out the very best quality for his decks and expects nothing less, but these continued delays, not with just this deck but so many others, is putting Lotrek in the same catagory of JR which is accountability. Can't believe anything he says.

I guess when your only producing 100-150 decks @ $90/deck, you can continue to take hits from your $10k+ budget to produce a deck.

Another week, another excuse.
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Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postby Lotrek » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:17 pm  

Cardians said:

"This update is total BS. Waits to the day of shipping to inform everyone of his imperfection(s)."

-NOT imperfections. I just want to do the best I can for a $95 deck although the 5 foils even without varnish at all would be impressive enough. Since I see room for improvement, I cannot rest unless I do it. That's why I printed ICONS 5 times (if I'm not forgetting anything).


"to only find out there's NOW issues!?! Why couldn't this update come sooner."

If you consider the amount of work I had to do, I'm surprised I didn't send this update even later. Plus, I wanted to be as precise as I could giving the new shipping date. I cannot keep changing dates forever. I could "hide" and remain silent for a week until the decks were shipped, saying some BS like "I was sick" or "my auntie died". Not my style.
Improving something that is already good isn't what you would call "an issue". Misalignment, misprints, bad cutting, wrong pips etc are issues. None of these happens here.


"According to Lotrek's shipping update, he's been hand-polishing each sheet all week."

-Not polishing. That would be impossible. Just applying a thin sealing film of varnish to protect the foil from the press.

"I understand he wants to put out the very best quality for his decks and expects nothing less, but these continued delays, not with just this deck but so many others, is putting Lotrek in the same catagory of JR which is accountability. Can't believe anything he says."

-Unfortunately you have a point here and there is not much I can say to defend myself. No matter why, a delay is a delay and it sucks for all. But I believe you'll forget about it when the decks arrive :-)
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Re: GOLDEN OATH playing cards by Lotrek

Unread postby pablo19 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:50 pm  

Some of the comments here seem a bit harsh. I'm fine as long as the deck is improved, and I guess Lotrek is still learning so hiccups are bound to happen. I don't mean to push any more buttons here, but what's the status on the grotest black mass, inferno and bronze editions?
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