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Re: KS Star Kings Playing Cards Deck

Unread postby Gareth » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:33 pm  

Just a couple of observations (Mods; sorry about the double post)

Wanderer: You signed up here 4 days ago, and have posted all of your 16 posts on this topic.
Mischievious: You also have 16 posts (out of 24) on this topic.

Prior to this post, 32 of 40 posts in this topic have been from one of the two of you - some of which are thanking the other, and therefore adding little new information. You appear to be closely related (in terms of this project at least), and it would be easy for someone to assume you are in fact the one person - I'm not making this accusation, but I would easy to come to this conclusion.

Therefore can you each clarify who you are in relation to this project and each other, so the rest of us have some clarity on who we're potentially dealing with?
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Re: KS Star Kings Playing Cards Deck

Unread postby Mischievous » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:58 am  

Wanderer wrote:........The answer is simple! There is playing the role of the human factor. However, this is a solvable problem. Now the fun part! At the same time, my staff gather information about companies NPCC and SVI........

My friend, thank you for your support.
Though we are with you, and from one country, but it is at least confidential information and to be honest, not ethical to rinse the laundry of others.
I suggest to bury the hatchet and exchange pleasantries.
Friendship won.
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Re: KS Star Kings Playing Cards Deck

Unread postby Wanderer » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:30 am  

Gareth wrote:Just a couple of observations (Mods; sorry about the double post)

Wanderer: You signed up here 4 days ago, and have posted all of your 16 posts on this topic.
Mischievious: You also have 16 posts (out of 24) on this topic.

Prior to this post, 32 of 40 posts in this topic have been from one of the two of you - some of which are thanking the other, and therefore adding little new information. You appear to be closely related (in terms of this project at least), and it would be easy for someone to assume you are in fact the one person - I'm not making this accusation, but I would easy to come to this conclusion.

Therefore can you each clarify who you are in relation to this project and each other, so the rest of us have some clarity on who we're potentially dealing with?


Thank you for the fine noted by the details! Of course connected! I prepay money for 8 decks! Then he began to look for more information and came to the forum. We are one country, probably from the same city. Accordingly, no support, I just could not countrymen. The main thing to understand more like a who's who in this game. In my opinion I did it quite successfully. With SVI, I would love to collaborate on a professional level. For example, a business security specialist.
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Re: KS Star Kings Playing Cards Deck

Unread postby Wanderer » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:39 am  

Justin O. wrote:NPCC quality is poor. If you are saying that these decks will be similar in print quality and stock it is an easy pass. You will find that a lot of current collectors prefer LPCC and EPCC to even USPCC. NPCC doesn't compare to these three and makeplayingcards.com is even worse. Ultimately this deck doesn't make the cut, an amatuerish design, with unexceptional art from an unknown-unproven printer that is being compared in quality to an established third-rate printer by it's supporters. There will be some on here that will back it, and if this somehow manages to fund I'm sure we will all be curious to hear their thoughts on the final product


Here you are right on all 100%. In my opinion not worth the SVI attached to Ukrainian printers. Perhaps the release of the deck at different locations and allow professionals to compare.Also it would stand wonder how to start working deck. "The Star Kings" specific product. Not everyone is interested in the theme of the affected SI-FI.
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Re: KS Star Kings Playing Cards Deck

Unread postby Mischievous » Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:37 am  

Hello,
I want to give you an explanation of the decks " Star Kings".
The project was ordered by the author of the book "Shambhala Warriors" and not a product of the SVI GROUP, as you noticed PDF books included in the gift. Therefore, the deck are limited edition. Decks will see life in any case, regardless of the results of the KS.

The project on KS, we put in the tradition of other reputable companies that operate on the playing card market, in order to study reviews the potential consumers.
The following decks will be exclusively of our development with the involvement of our artists.
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Re: KS Star Kings Playing Cards Deck

Unread postby Wanderer » Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:54 am  

You forgot to add that the author of the book, is a co-founder of the SVI. This is just in case, for those who consider me an interested party. I understand he wants to make the deck as a gift for yourself. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
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Re: KS Star Kings Playing Cards Deck

Unread postby Mischievous » Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:13 am  

:)
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Re: KS Star Kings Playing Cards Deck

Unread postby Mischievous » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:53 am  

The gift from the author's of fiction series

The team SVI GROUP informs the backers, that we have started the spread of gifts.As promised, the first gift from the author's of fiction series "Chronicles of Star frontiers", the novel "The Warriors of Shambhala", in electronic form, you can download on the link,
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Re: KS Star Kings Playing Cards Deck

Unread postby jerichoholic » Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:05 am  

For anyone who hasn't noticed, this project was cancelled for a second time now and relaunched with a measly £500 goal which is now funded.

For some mysterious reason they have also launched this under a new account and deleted their old account. A reputable company would not delete an account after a couple of failures nor launch a project with a desperately low funding goal.
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Re: KS Star Kings Playing Cards Deck

Unread postby Justin O. » Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:04 am  

jerichoholic wrote:For anyone who hasn't noticed, this project was cancelled for a second time now and relaunched with a measly £500 goal which is now funded.


This is my surprised face.
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Re: KS Star Kings Playing Cards Deck

Unread postby Wanderer » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:38 am  

jerichoholic wrote:For anyone who hasn't noticed, this project was cancelled for a second time now and relaunched with a measly £500 goal which is now funded.

For some mysterious reason they have also launched this under a new account and deleted their old account. A reputable company would not delete an account after a couple of failures nor launch a project with a desperately low funding goal.


For especially observant. There it is written that the account was deleted by mistake. Poor funding in my opinion emphasizes the fact that they do not need money and the deck will come out anyway. What do you know about reputable companies? They are so much respected that they have not even responded to your stupid attack. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: KS Star Kings Playing Cards Deck

Unread postby Wanderer » Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:16 am  

Use vjose32 for 10% off at http://www.collectableplayingcards.com.....

vjose32 = jerichoholic

Your articles and comments are aimed at combating material that does not suit you or your masters. I suspect that you are embedded on the forum and work for an order of one of the shops or brands. In my country this is illegal criminal activity. I ask the moderators to pay attention to this fact. Well done that brought the link back after my comment.

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Re: KS Star Kings Playing Cards Deck

Unread postby Wanderer » Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:42 am  

jerichoholic wrote: A reputable company


Very respected activity jerichoholic or vjose32


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Re: KS Star Kings Playing Cards Deck

Unread postby TGunitedcardists » Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:52 am  

This an an absolutely weird thread.
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Re: KS Star Kings Playing Cards Deck

Unread postby rousselle » Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:53 am  

Hi, Wanderer.

I'm one of the moderators here. Yes, we know that vjose32/jerichoholic can be negative and abrasive at times, and please rest assured that we pay attention and address the situation as best we can. I think that if you were to look at other topics on this forum, you'd notice that he is similarly critical of well-known artists as he is of newer, independent artists. Yes, we know he promotes one of the popular playing card resellers, and no, we have no reason to think he's a shill for any particular playing card manufacturer. And, no, it is not illegal in either your country, my country, or his country to promote a favorite retail outlet, so let's not pretend otherwise.

Please note that we actually do encourage employees/owners/representatives of "other shops and brands" to participate in the community here, as well as collectors, cardists, and magicians.

That said, I humbly suggest that you, too, keep your remarks addressed about the cards / projects and not about the other forum members. Just because someone points out what he or she considers to be possible flaws in a project you like doesn't automatically make them fair game for personal attacks. By all means, feel free to defend or promote your favorite projects or companies, or to point out the flaws in other projects or companies, but please keep it civil.
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Re: KS Star Kings Playing Cards Deck

Unread postby Justin O. » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:10 am  

Wanderer wrote:Poor funding in my opinion emphasizes the fact that they do not need money and the deck will come out anyway.


Poor funding, or a low goal, on crowd funding sites, means poor quality. That may not be the case with this one deck, but the fact is that we see a hundred new decks pass through our forum, and the patterns are very consistant, so even if this is truly a deck that defy's the laws of the playing card world, it isn't worth the risk when we have seen all of this, and heard all of this, so many times before it's laughable. I wish the creators luck on producing a fine product and making a few people happy, but I promise you that this deck, and this printer, will vanish into obscurity in the collectors circle like so so many that have come before it.
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Re: KS Star Kings Playing Cards Deck

Unread postby jerichoholic » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:22 am  

Wanderer wrote:
jerichoholic wrote: A reputable company


Very respected activity jerichoholic or vjose32


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Thanks for promoting my stuff! :D
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Re: KS Star Kings Playing Cards Deck

Unread postby Wanderer » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:24 am  

rousselle wrote:Hi, Wanderer.

I'm one of the moderators here. Yes, we know that vjose32/jerichoholic can be negative and abrasive at times, and please rest assured that we pay attention and address the situation as best we can. I think that if you were to look at other topics on this forum, you'd notice that he is similarly critical of well-known artists as he is of newer, independent artists. Yes, we know he promotes one of the popular playing card resellers, and no, we have no reason to think he's a shill for any particular playing card manufacturer. And, no, it is not illegal in either your country, my country, or his country to promote a favorite retail outlet, so let's not pretend otherwise.

Please note that we actually do encourage employees/owners/representatives of "other shops and brands" to participate in the community here, as well as collectors, cardists, and magicians.

That said, I humbly suggest that you, too, keep your remarks addressed about the cards / projects and not about the other forum members. Just because someone points out what he or she considers to be possible flaws in a project you like doesn't automatically make them fair game for personal attacks. By all means, feel free to defend or promote your favorite projects or companies, or to point out the flaws in other projects or companies, but please keep it civil.


Dear Rousselle. I supported the Star Kings project at Kickstarter for two prichmnas. The first I liked the deck, the second is my countrymen and I want to help them. But the character vjose32/jerichoholic is constantly building unreasonable attacks on producers, although he was intelligibly explained. So he has some interest. I support that the promotion and advertising of their projects are encouraged moderators. Let him move. But why harm another with your unreasonable statements and assumptions. Not everyone knows who he is vjose32/jerichoholic and how he behaves. Some may believe him. I believe that any member of the forum has the right to reasonable defense. And if to me or my friends point out disadvantages, I can do the same. If a person acts to profit himself and to harm others, this is a crime at least in our country. And vjose32/jerichoholic actions can be interpreted precisely from this angle. In my case, it's not up to him how much the manufacturer charges and how he works with his page. He also does not specify how much to sell decks and how to improve the attendance of his own forum. I apologize if anyone offended.
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Re: KS Star Kings Playing Cards Deck

Unread postby Wanderer » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:32 am  

[quote="Justin O."] Poor funding, or a low goal, on crowd funding sites, means poor quality.[quote]

This does not mean anything except that they invest their own money in production. Time will tell. Until the end of the project is not long. If you are mistaken, this will greatly spoil the reputation of local experts. And I'll try to do a maximum review with expertise and comparison.
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Re: KS Star Kings Playing Cards Deck

Unread postby jerichoholic » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:33 am  

That forum was a failed attempt from years ago that I had even forgotten about.
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