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Re: Kings Wild Project - Sneak Peek of The Arthurian!

Unread postby montecarlojoe » Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:45 pm  

I love the teasers so far - but I do agree somewhat with the criticisms for the back - the Celtic / Briton scrollwork looks great, but the radiating sunbeams jar a little.

Veering towards Monte Python's Holy Grail rather than John Boorman's Excalibur... (but as rousselle says, its one detail and Jackson's designs always seem to pull together in the end)
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Re: Kings Wild Project - Sneak Peek of The Arthurian!

Unread postby RichK » Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:24 am  

The decks on Kickstarter 7 pm Central, 8 pm EST.

The Excalibur Edition tucks features a premium grade soft touch crimson red paper with gold foil design of Excalibur seated in the magical anvil.

The Camelot Edition features a unique set of court cards and back design. It also comes in a custom designed collector's box that opens like a book and is closed by an individually numbered seal. (I wonder how you open it without breaking the seal.)

Fully custom, both decks are accentuated by meticulous and elegant details throughout. Printed by the Expert Playing Card Co.

Might be the first KWP I pass on.
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Re: Kings Wild Project - Sneak Peek of The Arthurian!

Unread postby vasta41 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:45 am  

I like this but it's hard to get excited about it after everything that's happened with his previous campaigns. Who wants to take early guesses as to what will go wrong with this project??
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Re: Kings Wild Project - Sneak Peek of The Arthurian!

Unread postby shaitani » Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:25 pm  

Calling the Camelot edition being turned into a regular material tuck that just opens on the side.

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Re: Kings Wild Project - Sneak Peek of The Arthurian!

Unread postby Cardician_82 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:05 pm  

RichK wrote: Might be the first KWP I pass on.


It WILL be the first of many that I pass on if his art continues down this path..
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Re: Kings Wild Project - Sneak Peek of The Arthurian! (wap)

Unread postby Cbkimble » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:06 pm  

I completely agree
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Re: Kings Wild Project - Sneak Peek of The Arthurian!

Unread postby Cardians » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:39 pm  

Wow, his first project that didn't fund in 15 seconds.. Guess the times are changing for JR. This is a clear example of people not supporting Jackson for obvious reasons.
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Re: Kings Wild Project - Sneak Peek of The Arthurian!

Unread postby jerichoholic » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:56 pm  

$36 freaking dollars for a deck that probably will end up different in the end, no thanks. Also for some reason it costs an extra $3 to ship it as opposed to the standard deck, sounds like gouging a bit. Should cost the same for 1 deck shipped. Limited to 1000, which nowadays isn't even that limited. Is it even worth $36?? I dont think so. Maybe $25-30, but $36 is pushing it a bit.

Is it me or is Jackson not even active here anymore?
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Re: Kings Wild Project - Sneak Peek of The Arthurian!

Unread postby badpete69 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:50 pm  

RichK wrote:Might be the first KWP I pass on.


I am cutting down my collecting habits by at least 75% and this makes it easy.. Pass on this one
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Re: Kings Wild Project - Sneak Peek of The Arthurian!

Unread postby chach » Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:51 am  

Set a reminder personally. I kinda like it, but there's tons of room for improvement. I mean, there's so much free space on the back it's just crazy. Really looks like it should be a rough draft that should sit for a while and be revisited in a few months. Couple that with the fact that it's yet another EPCC deck and that tuck is about plain as vanilla, I'm just not wanting to spend my money. I'd rather use the funds on a Rouen uncut sheet right now.

I think JR has his hands in too many projects and is quickly becoming a jack of all trades, master of none.


Also, this x2. Completely agree. And if it's not just a side opener it won't be nearly as good looking quality as the render.

shaitani wrote:Calling the Camelot edition being turned into a regular material tuck that just opens on the side.
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Re: Kings Wild Project - Sneak Peek of The Arthurian!

Unread postby sinjin7 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:04 am  

$16.00 shipped for one EPCC deck? Never going to happen, easy pass for me. Probably the worst tuck box Jackson has ever produced. I actually think the courts are pretty nice, but the back design would've killed it for me even if this deck was reasonably priced, which it's most definitely not. I agree with Victor, a 1000 print run for the "limited" Camelot edition is a butt load of decks, I expect to see these available for quite a long period of time until they're liquidated off on Touch of Modern. I don't know if he'll be able to sell 1000 regular edition decks in this KS campaign, much less 1000 "limited" editions. At least Jackson set his estimated delivery date waaaay out to September so its less likely he'll be late, yet again, with fulfillment. If he can't fulfill a KS playing card project within six months, maybe he should be doing something else.

Speaking of doing something else, its a bit of a concern for me that he's obviously trying to direct traffic to his new YouTube channel in order to monetize his YT account. I'd prefer to see him be 100% focused on not screwing up another KS campaign, given his recent track record, instead of messing around with pumping out YouTube content for AdSense coin. . .
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Re: Kings Wild Project - Sneak Peek of The Arthurian!

Unread postby jerichoholic » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:29 am  

It always seems to be about the money with him. I wonder what the actual production cost of the Camelot decks is.
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Re: Kings Wild Project - Sneak Peek of The Arthurian!

Unread postby Bikefanatic » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:05 am  

This is an easy pass for now, it doesn't look like his "normal" work. I think the tuck kills it for me.
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Re: Kings Wild Project - Sneak Peek of The Arthurian!

Unread postby MagikFingerz » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:06 am  

badpete69 wrote:
RichK wrote:Might be the first KWP I pass on.


I am cutting down my collecting habits by at least 75% and this makes it easy.. Pass on this one

I have been doing the same for a while now (probably closer to 90%) and have passed on most of his last decks. This one is the easiest so far though. There's almost nothing I find appealing, not the Excalibur back, not the courts, not even the indices. The only thing that is somewhat interesting is the Camelot back, and that's partly because I think it might look much better in-hand than in the pictures if they can make the colors pop. I guess I also think the Excalibur tuck is kinda nice.

So yeah, not much to go on for me. The project seems to be doing decently despite the general consensus of posters here though, so I guess he has a silent majority of fans out there.
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Re: Kings Wild Project - Sneak Peek of The Arthurian!

Unread postby jsantafe » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:58 am  

I think the deliver as promised critic to JR are absolutely spot on. Also that, in spite of that, he still manages 3 projects at the same times (legal tender, pearl tally and this one). We used to hear that he could do it because he always delivers, but not anymore.

Also, pricing is quite high for us, hardcore collectors, that have a wide view of the market. 30USD would be very reasonable for the Camelot deck (although I don't think it will disappoint, and the money back is always there with JR).

However, I can't agree with the comments about this being his worst deck. It's a deck that tells a story and is, as we can see in the updates, funded in a previous investigation, both for style of courts and backs, and story behind the characters.

Compare this with Crazy Eights, or even Wasteland... Art looked good but shallow.

And also I can't really understand all that critic to "empty space", it's the very basis of art and design, not all the canvas must be filled. In many cases, the least crowded cards look better that the others. In fact, I prefer the standard courts in Crazy 8s over the limited, and in the Arthurian, I am not sure I like the Camelot cards over the Excalibur.

I pledged only for the Camelot deck, and I really am on the fence of dropping, it's too much for a single deck. I think 35€ I paid for the Skull&Bones deck is my limit for a limited, retail (first hand) deck, but we shall see.

Also, whatever we say, his backers don't seem to show up too much around here, or at least comment.
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Re: Kings Wild Project - Sneak Peek of The Arthurian!

Unread postby Justin O. » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:29 pm  

I actually really like the art on this deck, I think there is something that feels really traditional and old-world about the court illustrations. They remind me of classical religious illustrations like I would expect from a very old bible or church document. I am also passing, but wanted to offer that I think the art is a good fit for the theme and I like the change in style. More than I appreciated the garish design of the Crazy 8's set
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Re: Kings Wild Project, Arthurian -- Live on KS

Unread postby Thedissident001 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:15 am  

Okay, I'm just going to put my honest opinion out there with this deck. The artwork with this deck is so simplistic and extract for someone who has proven multiple times over that they are capable of so much more - It's like Picasso option to pick up a crayon and doodle on some fish and chip paper. I just don't get it. It especially doesn't fit a theme where detailed design would seriously benefit the subject matter.

I say all of this as one of Jacksons previous biggest fans. His whole modus operandi seems to have changed over the last little while. Just sad to see one of the main reasons I got into the hobby accelerating backwards. Don't have to worry about his opinion on any of this, as these days he is too high and mighty to even respond on the forums. Ironic the one project he's had chosen as "Projects we Love" on Kickstarter is arguably his biggest steaming heap of the last few years.
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Re: Kings Wild Project, Arthurian -- Live on KS

Unread postby Mike Ratledge » Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:10 am  

I wanted to see what a few other people said before I commented, but this one just seems too cartoonish to me.
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Re: Kings Wild Project, Arthurian -- Live on KS

Unread postby jsantafe » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:05 am  

I feel it reflects medieval art decently, doesn't it?


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Re: Kings Wild Project, Arthurian -- Live on KS

Unread postby chach » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:52 am  

jsantafe wrote:I feel it reflects medieval art decently, doesn't it?


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I'd say if you crossed real medieval art with Southpark you'd end up with what we have here.
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