The House of the Rising Spade

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Stockholm17 wrote:HI ALL!

I just posted this on facebook and instagram
let me know what you think :) ... yes, index-less and one-way court card; i wanted to give the super-old-school feeling...

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That is one of the sickest queens I have seen to date. I am so in on this deck from just that one image.

I do agree that the Q might be a bit small and out of place ... you know what I think though. Get rid of it. Go 100% indexless.
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Re: The House of the Rising Spade

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Wow. That's very bold.
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Re: The House of the Rising Spade

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I really don't like commenting on a deck when I've seen so little of it from a tease. The art is exceptional as always from a Lorenzo deck, but I have to agree that this is more of an art deck than a practical, useable, playable deck of cards. Call me strange, but I actually buy cards so that I can, you know, play with them. We all know the court cards will be beautiful, but the one-way design won't be conducive to card play, and since the indices are so small, I fear it may be difficult to tell the Kings and Jacks apart. The numberless pips, while a nod to certain vintage decks, will be hard to quickly and easily read for card games, especially if Lorenzo also uses a non-stardard pip layout as well. There is a reason why vintage decks evolved from numberless spot cards to numbered ones.

Like I said, its early, and if I see the rest of the deck, maybe it'll make more sense and grow on me. I own every deck Lorenzo has put out, and I'll get these as well because I know the art and the tuck box will be exceptional, but it may be a less enthusiastic buy than usual, and this deck probably won't get much use.
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Re: The House of the Rising Spade

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To add to what Sinjin is saying... Personally I think all of Lorenzo and Giovanni decks are typical art deck way more than playing decks. I have a monthly poker game and do tournaments in Vegas twice a year, and would never play with these gorgeous decks nor would any of my regular players. I have shown them some of these decks and they all think they are beautiful but all agree pass on playing with them. Now obviously playing means more than poker and who knows maybe these are ok to play crazy eights or spades.

Now I cannot speak for cardists or magicians but I assume these type of decks are not preferred by them for tricks and such. I think this deck is meant to be 100% an art deck and this is the type of deck i usually buy an extra for displaying in my good ol 9 pocket sleeves that use to carry baseball cards

I love index less cards as I have a few singles in my collection from the 18th and 19th century. I am very much looking forward to this deck. Maybe an uncut will be in order
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Hi guys
thank you for the comments and the feedback!

just a few important notes about this teaser that I forgot to write in the beginning.

-this is the "beta-version", far from the final. Tweaks/adds/changes will be done. But at least you get an image that shows the style.
-that card on the back is not the ace of spades, it is just a graphic i put there to fill a blank card.
-the yellow background is - for now - metallic gold ink.
-the back design is not ready, it will be 2ways.


About the index-less:
I know it gets difficult to play today, and I know i did a "dangerous" choice... but how did the people manage to play without index 200 years ago? ok, not user friendly as today. i agree, but I'd like to achieve a mixed feeling: old layout and modern illustrations. let´s see how it evolves.
Also, this deck will have a foot in the tarot world (illustration-wise) even if it will be a poker size playing cards deck with 54 cards (or more).


I keep on working on it, much work to do :)
thanx again! :)
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That queen is freaking fabulous. I'm sold already.
It's just more proof, it anybody needed it, that Lorenzo sets the bar for everyone else.
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I'm in. :D :D :D
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Not only do I want the uncut already, but I also want a poster of that queen! :ugdance:
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I like it. Is that a worn, aged effect on the cat and diamonds - right side and down, the white-ish look? Nice touch if so.
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I'm loving the Queen.
I think the gold background really works against the red. Really makes it pop.
As for the number cards I really think they needs something to make them a playable deck - How about using Roman numerals?
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Or just really really small indices ^.^
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If you squint a little, the queen is giving the finger. Another masterpiece in the making.
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Please, keep it index less! That makes it more unique! Great idea, Lorenzo!
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I'll back this whichever way you go, but I like the fact that you're currently going index-less. I like the way this is a modern version of the old-style cards.

Oh, and that solid background of metallic gold ink? Sign me up again!

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I've already decided I need the uncut for this...
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I'm getting out of collecting Playing Cards and selling off most of my collection, but I will continue to get every Stockholm17 deck that comes out. Absolutely my favorite designer and these are no exception! Can't wait!!!
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Re: The House of the Rising Spade

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thanx for the feedback and the suggestions!

I agree with removing the Q (therefore J and K) and go 100% indexless.
for the sake of consistency and the concept, no letters.
I will make it clear that the queen is the queen, the jack is the jack and the king is the king.

Thank you!
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Looks like a queen from a tarot deck, especially if the index is going to be excluded. I really like her! Have you thought of designing a tarot deck sometime in the future? Or a deck that will serve both as a standard and a tarot deck like the Arcana deck by Chris Ovdiyenko?
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montecarlojoe wrote:I've already decided I need the uncut for this...
I try to get the uncut of all Lorenzo's decks, most of the time 2. They always come out beautiful.
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I'd love to too - but budget often prohibits that!
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Hello everybody!

finally I am able to get back to work after a big break due to moving to a new place. It was a process that took a few months (buying, selling, moving, fixing etc), that´s why I am so late with the new deck.

I gathered the many sketches I made during the year and selected a few. These are the 12 court cards.
I dont know when they will be ready, I still have to work on the aces, back design, and tuckbox.... Work in progress folk! :)
Let me know what is your fav :)

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QUEENS
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KINGS
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I like them. So, this time you are going for a full card illustration. I am not so wild about the obscured faces of the Kings with their visors down (Diamond and Spade), and the King of Clubs needs some work in my opinion. The King of Club's beard is not doing it for me. The Jacks look great. The Jack of Spades is my favorite with his face obsured by the hood (I know my earlier comment, but here it works for me) and with his snake familiar. The addition of the animals is a great twist. Thanks for the update on your next project and glad you are getting settled into your new home.
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Very rarely I like one way courts. I liked Calaveras, I haven't got my Origins SOH yet but I will like those. This deck I think I will like a lot too.

When you have the cards in your hand, it takes nothing but a second to turn around a court card to be aligned with a spread. I still highly prefer two way courts but I really don't care that much about one way backs.
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Looks really promising. I like the idea of the courts with a 'pet'. Will they all get one?
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thanx for the feedback! :)

Only the jacks will have an animal, the kings will have a weapon.
I will do some rendering in the weekend and see how it turns out :)

Much to do eheh
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So pets for Jacks, weapons for Kings and the girls??
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sms69x wrote:So pets for Jacks, weapons for Kings and the girls??
the ladies will have a special feature :) and I am not talking about their breast eheh
wait and see, I hope it turns out decently.

As reminder, these cards will be INDEX-LESS
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I'm excited by what I see so far.
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Stockholm17 wrote:
sms69x wrote:So pets for Jacks, weapons for Kings and the girls??
the ladies will have a special feature :) and I am not talking about their breast eheh
wait and see, I hope it turns out decently.

As reminder, these cards will be INDEX-LESS
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I said it before and I will say it again: These look f^&*ing great. I love the one-way courts and I love the lack of indexes.

I've seriously been waiting for an update on this forever. I'm heavily anticipating these.

I'm done with Lotrek. Nothing against him at all. 6 of his decks are industrially innovative, ridiculously well-designed, and meticulously crafted. Venexiana Gold, Icons Signature, Liturgy Treasure, Grotesk Inverted Inferno Signature, Golden Oath, and Oath Sanctus are all ground-breaking IMO. That's about $2K (X2 of each deck) of investment though and I'm experiencing fatigue on all playing card fronts. It will be tough to continue delivering state-of-the-art products for Oath Playing Cards (Ambassadors begins that trend).

I'm done with JR. 36 decks in and I've hit the dead end after the Arthurians.

Paul Carpenter is still going strong. I think his few and far-between releases keep his stuff looking pretty fresh and his line detail work is tremendous.

I'm done with Giovanni. A brick of his signature artwork bodes well for his legacy with me but the style is stale and I had no interest in his latest super bright colored campaign.

Alex Chin is still going strong for me as well, but I think Seasons has to come to a close and he needs to pull another Magna Carta out of his bag of tricks.

That brings me to you, sir. It's weird, because I first came across your work with the Heretic decks and Noctis is so easily one of my favorite decks. I saw the Requiem decks online a few times and was "eh, I'm not sure I see the catch". Well, lo and behold, I ended up ordering them and I don't know if there is another deck that pictures do no justice for. They are unbelievable. Everything you've crafted has been a stunning work of art and this "fresh" look of one-way courts and index-less designs just has me excited. I have no love for one-way backs, as some have said, but the courts don't restrict the deck's function IMO.

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serubi wrote:Image
I just wanted to quote this because it's how I feel about this upcoming deck lol.
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