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Re: 52+joker 2016 deck

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Mike Ratledge wrote: Andrea, has anyone posted this over on the club forum?
It appears that they didn't realise the mistake until someone posted the photo on the forum.
I quote Lee Asher response to another poster.
"While I understand your passion, I think it's a bit misguided. Sure it's a $35 deck, but what this really is ... is an original club deck created by Mark Stutzman. There are only 500, and they are just for our membership. You won't see them advertised outside of our club.

What surprises me the most is not a single person has spoken about all the Tom Dawson homage found within this deck. Please take a moment to look passed Pip-Gate, and you'll find the cool intricacies Mark embedded in memory of Tom."
"Mistakes were made before it went to print. No one caught it."
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Weird no-one has o dear/mea culped :? :shock:
Assume that a patch/fix is in hurried manufacture :oops:
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Re: 52+joker 2016 deck

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52JokesandCounting wrote: I quote Lee Asher response to another poster.
"While I understand your passion, I think it's a bit misguided. Sure it's a $35 deck, but what this really is ... is an original club deck created by Mark Stutzman. There are only 500, and they are just for our membership. You won't see them advertised outside of our club.

What surprises me the most is not a single person has spoken about all the Tom Dawson homage found within this deck. Please take a moment to look passed Pip-Gate, and you'll find the cool intricacies Mark embedded in memory of Tom."
"Mistakes were made before it went to print. No one caught it."
Really?? Did this guy wrote this to justify the error?? What a Clown...
You should forget that the deck is not a deck anymore because it is designed by Mark Stutzman and is an homage to Tom Dawson so $35 for this this is totally justified!!
Coming for the guy that creates the ARTIFICIAL rarety of the JN's to sell them for $300+ shouldn't surprise anyone...
I would say to the guy: "Please see past the $$$ and do the right thing to the people that bought the deck."
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I guess they call this Damage Control. If you notice, it's Don. He is the guy who practically runs that other site. It seems like they are not planning to fix this even though in the past ppl who had errors have fixed broken decks. Any examples? I forget which ones...

I'm sure ppl are disappointed with buying a $35 premium broken deck. Sorta like this guy who hates cheap plastic couplings with his premium engine.
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They need to pay for a print run and fix it. Simple as that.

Shows the integrity between people. Jackson's Kings Wild had a mistake, and he fixed it and communicated it. He didn't make any excuses and paid for it in delays and money. But it got fixed. 52+joker haven't yet (and probably won't). They are willingly let people overpay on a defective deck. With that kind of mistake, it's not a deck of cards, it's non-gameworthy and non-functional artwork on specialized paper. :roll:
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As per Lee Asher on PCF:

Therefore, in response to these errors, 52 Plus Joker will be doing the following:
1. Reprinting the 6 clubs as well as the tuck box.
2. Steve will include replacement card(s) and flat tuck box(es) with your March CTD, equivalent to the number of decks you have purchased.
3. Steve has complete records of all orders after the convention. All members who attended the convention (where we did not record sales by member) will receive 3 cards and boxes. If you bought more than 3 in Chicago, please advise Steve by emailing him at srbbowling@gmail.com.
4. All orders received after December 1, 2016 will be held until they can be shipped with the replacements.
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So after trying the most to keep the money and trying selling how unique the deck would be (so unique that it wouldn't serve to play) with that misprinted card they finally will do the right thing.
That should had cost Lee Asher very much, admiting the mistake and being forced to reprint the error card, if people would realize how unique the deck is with that error card (dumb people [sarcasm]...).
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Re: 52+joker 2016 deck

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Details of resolution:
Lee Asher wrote: Although many of us have kept our beautiful 2016 decks sealed, as you 
know we've come to find out that the 6 clubs has an extra pip.  
Furthermore, the tuck box indicates the deck was made in Tiwan. While 
amusing to some, these are objectionable issues to others.

As the President of the 52 Plus Joker, I must take fault for the 
situation. You have my sincerest apologies for any mistakes found on 
the deck. They come honestly, and due to this unforeseen incident, 
next year we will have more checks & balances put in place so this 
doesn't happen again.

Additionally, for the record, discussions with the Taiwan embassy 
broke down and led us to conclude that they are not willing to change 
their name. ;)

Therefore, in response to all of this, 52 Plus Joker will be enacting 
the following immediately:

1.    Reprinting the 6 clubs as well as the tuck box.

2.    Steve Bowling (52 Plus Joker Treasurer) will include replacement 
card(s) and flat tuck box(es) with your March CTD, equivalent to the 
number of decks you have purchased.

3.    Mr. Bowling has complete records of all orders after the 
convention. All members who attended the convention (where we did not 
record sales by member) will receive three cards and boxes.  If you 
bought more than three in Chicago, please advise Steve Bowling by 
emailing him at srbbowling@gmail.com.

4.    All orders received after December 1, 2016 will be held until 
they can be shipped with the replacements.

One last thought -- I don't personally profit on any of this, nor does 
anyone else in the club.

52 Plus Joker is comprised of volunteers who simply love playing cards 
like everyone else. You can rest assured knowing that proceeds from 
this deck sale (or any of the club's sales) go to the club's treasury 
which helps keep:

- cost of membership low
- convention registration fees low
- hotel prices at the convention low

I hope that clarifies everything, and makes the world right again for 
those who were upset.

Thank you once more for your understanding, and patience.

With much love & respect,
Lee Asher

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52 Plus Joker
http://www.52plusjoker.org
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Re: 52+joker 2016 deck

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If you have not seen it.


I guess that was the tipping point that made them do it. With anything, it's very important to get as many eyes on something before you mass produce it. You can't expect a sole person who looks at the same thing day after day to make something without errors. It has even happened to me. Your brain just skips over the error and just doesn't see it.

It doesn't matter get your mother, brother, friend, even a stranger to look at your work. You might be surprised with the feedback...

If you are a future deck maker, heed this warning and learn from their costly mistake...
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What if we got our decks on playingcards.net? I guess we are SOL. :?:

Side note, I doubt this mistake would have happened if Tom was still around.
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Re: 52+joker 2016 deck

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Glad Lee is printing corrected cards. The pips mistake was a bigger deal to me than the typo on the tuck.
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shermjack wrote:As per Lee Asher on PCF:

Therefore, in response to these errors, 52 Plus Joker will be doing the following:
1. Reprinting the 6 clubs as well as the tuck box.
2. Steve will include replacement card(s) and flat tuck box(es) with your March CTD, equivalent to the number of decks you have purchased.
3. Steve has complete records of all orders after the convention. All members who attended the convention (where we did not record sales by member) will receive 3 cards and boxes. If you bought more than 3 in Chicago, please advise Steve by emailing him at srbbowling@gmail.com.
4. All orders received after December 1, 2016 will be held until they can be shipped with the replacements.
This is the right thing to do. Good that they recognized that.
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Re: 52+joker 2016 deck (wap)

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With this new information, I can still puchase more decks. I'll wait till after Dec 1 at least. The new tuck and 6oS will be packaged with it if any one is interested.
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Has anyone received the replacement card + tuck?
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No. I haven't, but it's still the first week of February. They say they'll ship in March, if I'm reading that right.

" Steve will include replacement card(s) and flat tuck box(es) with your March CTD, equivalent to the number of decks you have purchased."
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Re: 52+joker 2016 deck

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I did receive 6 flat tuck boxes and 6 replacement cards today. These were included in my CTD package in the mail today.
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