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Grabbed a collector's set.

Shadows + Rouen ~EARLYBIRD and added on one more Shadows.

EB backed. Cool decks! Good luck!

The project page doesnt show up under "playing cards" section of kickstarter, or any other section other than "all games" could lead to issues with non forum members coming across it.

JuFiN wrote:The project page doesnt show up under "playing cards" section of kickstarter, or any other section other than "all games" could lead to issues with non forum members coming across it.

Yep thats why i missed the 2 decks earlybird......
so i went for the half mixed brick early bird

Damn, completely forgot about this and missed the EB's

If anyone plans on dropping or upgrading from an EB pair at some point, please send me a PM!

I got a half brick of the original so maybe with this one I might too to boost funding toward the third Metalluxe deck. If it's unlocked would it be an add-on or in a tier?

Mixed half brick for me! May even go higher, lets see how finances will do until the end of the project!
I'm cutting down on the majority of KS projects, but not on this one!

59% funded, can't understand how this is not yet funded, so lets get the word going... Towards MetaLuxe!!

sms69x wrote:59% funded, can't understand how this is not yet funded, so lets get the word going... Towards MetaLuxe!!

I think this explains A LOT.

JuFiN wrote:The project page doesnt show up under "playing cards" section of kickstarter, or any other section other than "all games" could lead to issues with non forum members coming across it.

ecNate wrote:

sms69x wrote:59% funded, can't understand how this is not yet funded, so lets get the word going... Towards MetaLuxe!!

I think this explains A LOT.

JuFiN wrote:The project page doesnt show up under "playing cards" section of kickstarter, or any other section other than "all games" could lead to issues with non forum members coming across it.

They appear to have fixed it now though it is under playing cards. But the first day it was not so people who sort by "newest" may well have missed it.

Rick's update/news ....
Good gear !

I'm a little surprised that this project isn't getting more love.

Although, it *has* already funded over $23,000. Is it possible that combining the two different decks is making the goal too high?

That said, I love the added spiffs being offered to big backers. Now... how do we improve the chances of this one to fund?

My mind is boggled that this hasn't funded yet as well. Maybe Rick needs to promote this more aggressively. As far as I can tell, he's just been sending out Updates but hasn't been doing any cross-promotions with other decks on KS. I think he should hit up Kardify and Max Playing Cards for additional promotion as well. If he's able to get that limited edition deck out, I'm sure that will boost pledges as well.

This one launched the same day as Arthurian...
Arthurian has a a lot of criticism but it's still going strong up to 60k USD.
Origins with lots of positive feedback has problems to fund with 35k NZD (~24k USD) ???

I don't get it !

I think one of the problems is sticker shock with the NZ dollar, especially with the add-ons. Projects that don't start in USD add an extra layer of difficulty.

It's hard to compare Jackson Robinson's reach, as he sends out an email blast to all previous backers and BOOM...funded.

This one better fund man, I'm looking forward to this more than most Kickstarters in the last few months.

I hope the limited editions help push it close to or over the goal.

You gotta do what you gotta do, time to up the pledge.

I don't know if Rick is super busy tweaking the deck but I asked about adding on a Rouen booklet since I pledged for a pair and don't get the book for free. He said he'd add it to the add-on list but it's not on there 3 days later. Not good if you want people to pledge you more money.

Cross promoting should be done too. I don't know if he did this with his other decks but it can't hurt. I want this to fund.

Hey guys Sorry I've been quiet here, it has been a super busy couple of weeks. Yes it's a tough grind, but totally what I expected. A lot of great decks to compete with and I had the same with the first campaign. There is a little confusion with the currency and the Rouen deck is something a little different. Sticking with the USPCC makes everything tighter on budget, but working hard on finalising the custom Black Label deck which I'm hoping to launch in the next couple of days.

I have been working hard on promoting the campaign in different places, and have some cross promoting lined up. You can always do more. Rich, sorry for the delay, will have that booklet up tonight, the Black Label has been time consuming.

Thanks for the support in the campaign, you guys rock.

Rick, at this point it's super important to get the new items out there and available so you can pump up the numbers. Time is not your friend here, the sooner the better as far as that goes. With Ukraine ten days left, you need a shot in the arm...

Update (#9) from Rick just come out.

A quick summary;

• Rouen deck now going LPCC (was USPCC)
• Black Label Deck available for $92 ($65USD) from 5am ET (9am GMT) - less than 90 minutes.

To me looks like a quick cash grab, as Mike sort of suggested. (Presumably moving the LPCC gives a bit more wiggle room in the budget for the Black decks).

BTW: 1 Early Bird Brick now available (thanks for making my finances easier Rick!).

I have to say I'm not happy about the change to LPCC on the Rouen deck, now we're likely to see fulfillment delayed waiting on the Taiwanese/Chinese printer, in addition to having the Rouen deck warp on you once you open it. I guess you have to do what you have to do to try to get funded. There's no question about the art and design, this deck should've easily funded and then some. But I think this project was mismanaged in that it wasn't properly promoted right from the start. Now it just feels like desperate scrambling at the end, hopefully it won't be a case of too little too late.

This is a very poor move from Rick... (I would prefer that he cancel the campaign than doing this money grab..)

So in order to get this funded he just goes with the flow of everyone else and just throws in a fancy tuck to get this funded.... very bad played..
Also going with LPCC for the Rouen deck kills it for me... I will most likely drop my pledge... As by the way this is looking this deck is going to barely fund and I guess we will be able to get these in the after market for a even better deal...

This one has the potential for the best deck of the year, but if we got the "Worst KS campaign" category I guess this one could win too...

Wow! I can't believe all the negativity just because Rick added an additional limited deck (which he said he would be doing) and switched one of the decks from USPCC to LPCC.

I don't recall anyone complaining when Lorenzo offered his Limited Decks for No 17 or Le Chat Rouge, which were also tuck swaps. Nor do I understand how this can be a money grab. Just like Rick explained, as with Lorenzo's decks also, there are extra expenses incurred in making these limited decks (including having to have the decks sent to NZ, then Rick's time in making each tuck and then sending them back out). With shipping costs these days, I don't see how Rick could make that much money off of these.

As for worst run campaign, that's a little harsh, don't you think? I am sure that Rick tried his best to attract more backers, but despite his best efforts he is a little short of his goal, so like all other project creators, he offered another add-on (which again, he talked about a couple weeks ago) to try and get the project funded. How does that make it a bad campaign? What other reasons are there for this being such a bad campaign?

In regards to the switch from USPCC to LPCC for the Rouen deck, I guess I can understand the disgruntlement from some, but again, it is not the end of the world as LPCC still produces excellent decks. Plus the fact that many of my USPCC decks have the click bend as well, there is no guarantee with either company in the deck will be click bend free. Maybe Rick will offer tiers that have only multiple Bicycle decks so you can still get them without getting the LPCC deck...won't hurt to ask.

In the end, you have a choice of which decks to back or not back and you can express your opinion by how you pledge, but I really don't think that Rick's move deserves such harsh treatment for trying to get his project funded and produced within his budget.

I am also not happy about the change in printers. But the way I see it (and the way I've ALWAYS seen it with any project in KS), a creator has two options when faced with a campaign that might not fund: sacrifice the "bells and whistles" to lower the funding goal and in turn the production costs while having the "it's better to have my deck created without the bling than to not have it created at all" attitude. OR make no sacrifices and stay the course with the "I'd rather not see my deck created than sacrifice my initial vision" attitude. As much as I love USPCC printing, I personally think what good is USPCC printing if the deck can't be created? I'd rather see LPCC print a deck than have no deck at all.
As for the money grab I would normally agree with that if the project were already funded. But the fact that the project isn't funded yet makes me believe that Rick is just trying to do anything he can to get these decks funded. And I don't know how anyone could fault him for that. JR does these money grabs after the project is already 150% funded. Screw that. This is not that (that I can see).

Wow. When you stop collecting you get out of touch quick... There's a black deck?

A limited edition, spiffed out black tuck. Looks very nice. Just announced in the wee hours this morning. $65 add-on, I think. Did you not back Origins - Shadows of History?

Tsk.

I did but i do not read any updates and barely make it here

Reminder, he's only stating he MAY switch to Legends, but will consider staying with USPCC if the funding level is high enough. Given that as of this moment we are now at $24,135 of $24,645 goal in USD with 5 days to go I think there's a good chance of that happening. Especially if those that may have bailed come back. There was a HUGE increase because of new deck I'm sure. Possibly some 'self-funded' efforts as well, but I'm totally OK with that given it's Rick and not some shady person.

I'm the guy that doesn't care which of the top 3 companies make the decks when funded. My mind's occupied on other things until the decks are delivered. I rather wait when things are done completely right instead of it being rushed or not the actual product promised.

On the original Origins thread I think I mentioned about seeing a maroon tuck in the future. Looks like that will come true (Rouen deck).