A quick summary;
- Rouen deck now going LPCC (was USPCC)
- Black Label Deck available for $92 ($65USD) from 5am ET (9am GMT) - less than 90 minutes.
BTW: 1 Early Bird Brick now available (thanks for making my finances easier Rick!).
+1Bikefanatic wrote:I'm the guy that doesn't care which of the top 3 companies make the decks when funded. My mind's occupied on other things until the decks are delivered. I rather wait when things are done completely right instead of it being rushed or not the actual product promised.
Interestingly, we've just discovered that the updates can be edited. The update e-mail that I received saysecNate wrote:Reminder, he's only stating he MAY switch to Legends, but will consider staying with USPCC if the funding level is high enough.
The current wording on KS sounds quite different, which saysAs part of the adjustments to the campaign I have reassigned the production of the Rouen 1567 deck to the Legends Playing Card Co. who did amazing jobs of my last two decks in the JP Games LUXX series (check them out). The option to print with the USPCC remains an option if funded ...
As I started this little bunfight, I should address;As part of the adjustments to the campaign, for the Rouen 1567 deck only, I will select between the USPCC and the Legends Playing Card Co. who did amazing jobs of my last two decks in the JP Games LUXX series (check them out)
Nothing you said is wrong, except of course the creator can't change the goal after the campaign has started. They can only change what you're going to get for the money you pledge. By reducing his costs (printing with LPCC), Rick has reduced the value of the pledges in my opinion (others, undoubtedly disagree), and therefore I altered what I was willing to pay.vasta41 wrote: ... a creator has two options when faced with a campaign that might not fund: sacrifice the "bells and whistles" to lower the funding goal and in turn the production costs while having the "it's better to have my deck created without the bling than to not have it created at all" attitude. OR make no sacrifices and stay the course with the "I'd rather not see my deck created than sacrifice my initial vision" attitude....
Gareth wrote:By reducing his costs (printing with LPCC), Rick has reduced the value of the pledges in my opinion...
Both great points. I would like to see (and will probably end up seeing) USPCC printing because A) I'm a sucker for USPCC and B) because it is a better value (IMO I guess?). This is all hypothetical now that the project is funded but let's pretend there were 4 days left and 25% more to go. Rick saw the writing on the wall and figured that the campaign wouldn't fund as-is. What if he took a poll and stated, "this project doesn't look like it will fund and I cannot pay out-of-pocket to complete it. Would you rather I scrap this project or use a cheaper printer in order to see this project to fruition?" I would be curious to see how many people would vote for LPCC printing. I would be hesitant because I would want nothing more than for these to be printed by USPCC but ultimately I would vote for LPCC printing over nothing at all (if that were the choice. I realize now the point is moot).sinjin7 wrote:...for me, and many others, it would be a disappointment to see a printer switch. When I first read the Update, I got the impression that Rick was definitely switching to the Taiwanese (Chinese?) printer, but I'm glad to see that he still may stay with the USPCC. In my opinion, keeping everything with the USPCC will result in better quality, consistency across both versions, and faster fulfillment so I hope that will be the case.
Please tell us how you really feel about tuck collectors hahahaha I get that it's not your thing. But this strategy has been used in other hobby like comic book collecting. How many times did comics have a variant cover with the same comic book inside but it always sold out and the variant cover edition was always more expensive on the reseller market. To me the tuck is an important part of the overall product, so a tuck swap is a different product overall. I do open some of my decks not all but these I consider collector's item. Anyway each collector has different views and that's what makes the hobby great.sinjin7 wrote:I don't mind that Rick came out with an "ultra-limited" edition that is merely a tuck swap. I get that there are a lot of collectors out there that are basically tuck box collectors since they never open their decks, so they don't care if the cards inside their blinged out tucks are identical to the standard editions, or even printed by a crappier printer for that matter. As its been mentioned, I'm not forced to buy it, and I usually don't. For me, an exclusive "limited" edition should be differentiated by the cards inside as well as a blinged out tuck. I have no problems buying those for the collection. But there is obviously a market for those tuck box collectors, so it makes real-world economic sense to cater to them as well, especially if they're easily parted with a lot of their money for just a fancy tuck.
You're correct on the "don't want it, don't buy it" point. I think part of the problem is that it was introduced half way through the campaign and it's just a different tuck box (really fancy pull tab way of opening in my opinion). I'm guessing Rick was working out the details and didn't want to announce it until it was doable. If he had mentioned it at the beginning as a possibility I don't feel there would be such a reaction.Conturbia wrote:I don't understand the hate: if you don't want to get the special version, just don't pledge for that. I really can't see the problem: if it's not your cup of tea.. don't drink it, it may be good for others.
Am I wrong?
Fingers crossed.RichK wrote:Bottom line, they are funded, and he's asking USPCC for pricing again.
For sure, that can be very annoying, and it's already the norm. Every kickstarter project now requires you to pick up the "everything package" to get the nicest/rarest one. The only way to get just the "nice"/"rare" one is to buy secondary-market, and that often ends up costing as much as if you just pledged for the "everything package" to begin with.MagikFingerz wrote:Now I only get annoyed if there's a "you can only get deck x if you buy deck y" and I want deck x.
Kickstarter updates are editable for 30 minutes after they're sent out, after that they are locked down. It's so KS creators have a chance to correct any typos or mistakes made that weren't caught until after having sent the update.Gareth wrote: Interestingly, we've just discovered that the updates can be edited.
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