Memento Mori - NPCC vs Ramsay

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Re: Memento Mori - NPCC vs Ramsay

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We've run into dilemma, and need your advice!
To make this deck really pop, we are considering to use "metallic" card stock (black - CD, and brown - Vanitas) for tucks with silver (for Carpe Diem) and gold (for Vanitas) inks. Plus embossing and hot foils on key design elements. Plus interior printing (foils?? - not yet decided).

HOWEVER, this will seriously increase deck price.

So, we see 2 options here:
1. Increase deck price (+$1)
2. Make this upgrades as high stretch goal

What is your thoughts?
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Re: Memento Mori - NPCC vs Ramsay

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Never been a big fan of interior stuff, would rather see more effort put into the cards and tuck where you can actually enjoy it, instead of hidden inside of a tuck.

Also I say have it as a stretch goal to keep the price down.
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Re: Memento Mori - NPCC vs Ramsay

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I would rather pay more to have all the goodies. Nice tucks without interior printing are always a let down for me.

That's just my opinion though.
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Re: Memento Mori - NPCC vs Ramsay

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Interior printing is interesting. Interior foil is a pain, it just flakes off onto the cards. Putting the money on tuck and stock seems much more worthwhile. I don't mind if they cost a bit more to start.
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Re: Memento Mori - NPCC vs Ramsay

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Looking at the tuck interiors you have amazing art which will be pretty much unviewable unless you sell unfolded tucks. Foliling the inside would be wasteful in my opinion.
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Re: Memento Mori - NPCC vs Ramsay

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Regarding art in the interior of the tuck: while I used to feel the same as others above, that printing inside the tuck is wasted effort, I've since completely changed my thoughts on this. The experience of opening up Chris Ovdyenko's Oracle deck, for example, is HUGELY impacted by the surprisingly awesome foil-work inside the tuck. The interiors of some of Jackson Robinson's decks, or Omnia/Delerium decks, or the prismatic foil inside the 52+Jokers deck make the experience of simply opening the tuck exquisite. Attention to the interior, even if it's simply colored paper as opposed the the boring ol' white, makes the tuck feel less like a storage container for some cards and more like a home for your works of art.

Just my two cents.

That said, the stretch goal versus building into the price right upfront conundrum is an age-old dilemma. I think there's a lot to be said for building it into the price upfront. If you don't hit your funding goal, you can always try to re-release later with fewer bells and whistles. But most people who want the bells and whistles will either not pledge at all or refrain from pledging until it looks certain that the stretch goals will be hit.
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Re: Memento Mori - NPCC vs Ramsay

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Thanks everyone for advices. Indeed, very tough decision that we had to make.

Evaluating all pros and cons, we are going to do "feature-max" decks. $1 is comparably not major price raise, considering what we offer. By going with such a unique metallic paper, we want this deck to be premium. To be desired for collectors. Small details are crucial in many situations, and lots of people make final decision based on details.

By the way, we are going to offer unfolded tucks as add on - for those, who would like to enjoy interior artwork :)

and the last, but not least - PROJECT IS GOING LIVE WEDNESDAY 20TH
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Re: Memento Mori - NPCC vs Ramsay

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Re: Memento Mori - NPCC vs Ramsay

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No stretch goals for a quality printer?
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