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Re: Intaglio - Hand Engraved deck by Jackson Robinson
My god.
That's all I have. Looking forward to seeing the result Jackson, very impressed. Crazy / awesome
That's all I have. Looking forward to seeing the result Jackson, very impressed. Crazy / awesome
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Re: Intaglio - Hand Engraved deck by Jackson Robinson
Indeed.RickDavidson wrote:My god.
A step or three beyond etching ....
Masterfull stuff.
O, I beg of you your comprehensions,
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yet laugh at your contempts ....
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Re: Intaglio - Hand Engraved deck by Jackson Robinson
I can't imagine how you'll mirror the image for a two way deck. Working on these, even just testing, must be very straining (intense) for you.
How thick is the copper plate?
Simply incredible!
How thick is the copper plate?
Simply incredible!
Move on, nothing to see here.
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Re: Intaglio - Hand Engraved deck by Jackson Robinson
Jackson, are you acid etching these?JacksonRobinson wrote:More pictures on the previous page!
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No these are all hand engraved.Justin O. wrote:Jackson, are you acid etching these?JacksonRobinson wrote:More pictures on the previous page!
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Very cool. Eitherway it is incredibly impressive and I cannot wait to see the final product. In pictures. Because even if I am able to get one, it will stay pristine and perfectly unopened. If I am able to get a second though all bets are off on that one.JacksonRobinson wrote:No these are all hand engraved.Justin O. wrote:Jackson, are you acid etching these?JacksonRobinson wrote:More pictures on the previous page!
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My plan with this deck will be for sure to create two different versions. There will be the low run 100% hand engraved and hand printed deck, I then will digitize all of the engraved art and then add color to it to create a traditionally printed deck that will be priced like a traditional deck.Justin O. wrote:Very cool. Eitherway it is incredibly impressive and I cannot wait to see the final product. In pictures. Because even if I am able to get one, it will stay pristine and perfectly unopened. If I am able to get a second though all bets are off on that one.JacksonRobinson wrote:No these are all hand engraved.Justin O. wrote:Jackson, are you acid etching these?JacksonRobinson wrote:More pictures on the previous page!
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Really looking forward to this, but that looks like a bunch of expensive equipment we're going to be financing. Seriously though, this should be absolutely incredible. I can't wait to see what scroll work design you have envisioned for the back plates. Just hope I'll be lucky enough to get one of the hand printed ones.
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I hate to be an ass, but isn't this under "Custom Deck Drafting Board" I have to hand it to you Jackson. This is more than just moving from a ribbon transition to a cloth transition. You are now on a path with Master of the Playing Card Engraving is very special and you can only get better... Who else is doing this? With Card making you have so much knowledge. Things are going to happen soon...
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Jackson Robinson has become The Master of the Playing Cards. His skills are complete.
Launching tomorrow at 12 pm central on Kickstarter, Intaglio. My biggest Kickstarter endeavor yet. A collection of playing cards hand engraved and printed on 19th Century printing presses.
https://vimeo.com/222770825
Launching tomorrow at 12 pm central on Kickstarter, Intaglio. My biggest Kickstarter endeavor yet. A collection of playing cards hand engraved and printed on 19th Century printing presses.
https://vimeo.com/222770825
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Made in China quality though
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This looks really cool and I'm very excited to know and see more, but I don't know enough about what it means to have each plate created by hand. Can someone who is knowledgeable in this area chime in? How is this different for example from what Lotrek has done with Golden Oath? Do the plates imply the whole deck will be foiled?
In short what is special about the outcome of this "never before done" technique? Also are we going to see the same inferior quality card stock as legal tender? Because that would be a shame for something like this.
In short what is special about the outcome of this "never before done" technique? Also are we going to see the same inferior quality card stock as legal tender? Because that would be a shame for something like this.
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Really...? He is going to make playing cards by hand in a method from 200 years ago and you complain that the quality is not good as with modern technology? Well no fuc*ing shit the quality is not going to be perfect.jerichoholic wrote:Made in China quality though
This really is a project like non-other. I love that Jackson is trying this and hope that he delivers!
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Räpylätassu wrote:Really...? He is going to make playing cards by hand in a method from 200 years ago and you complain that the quality is not good as with modern technology? Well no fuc*ing shit the quality is not going to be perfect.jerichoholic wrote:Made in China quality though
This really is a project like non-other. I love that Jackson is trying this and hope that he delivers!
I believe he means that the bulk of the decks are going to be printed by EPCC. It was my understanding that there will be a limited number of decks printed off the hand engraved copper plates, which will be $$$$$, then there will be a lot more printed regularly by EPCC for just $$.
What Jack$on is doing here is doing main artwork on computer then taking a copper plate, laying out the artwork on it and then engraving it by hand (well with modern engravers tools). That plate is then used in a press to make one card at a time. Very tedious process and there will only be a small number of decks actually printed this way.shaitani wrote:This looks really cool and I'm very excited to know and see more, but I don't know enough about what it means to have each plate created by hand. Can someone who is knowledgeable in this area chime in? How is this different for example from what Lotrek has done with Golden Oath? Do the plates imply the whole deck will be foiled?
But I'm with Pete, only 5 plates made thus far and I remember him first talking about this ages ago, I wouldn't expect it any time this year. And while engraving is a tedious process that takes some skill, it really shouldn't take more than a few hours per plate.
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Yet another tasteless remark. Nothing new.jerichoholic wrote:Made in China quality though
Love the idea. 90 hand engraved plates? Wow! So cool!
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No one disputes Jackson's talent, but these are strictly for collectors only, almost more of a novelty. I like to use my cards, so these don't do much for me. Plus, I'm not getting anything from Jackson on Kickstarter anymore. Jackson's shown he can't manage campaigns in a competent or efficient manner. And this looks to be more labor-intensive than anything he's done before, so I hope no one's holding their breath in getting these in any sort of timely manner.
But my biggest issue with Jackson is I can't trust him anymore. He's known for several months now that his Legal Tender decks are erroneously marked as made in Taipee (Taiwan) instead of made in China. I implored him to post an Update on his Legal Tender KS to make it clear to all his backers that the cards are printed in China so that there won't even be a hint of a perception that he's trying to mislead anybody or hiding anything. It just takes a brief 5 minutes for him to post such update, but he still hasn't done so. Again, its been several months since he's known about this. For an individual who's so inclined to post Bible verses on his KS campaigns and website, I find it highly hippocritical that he either doesn't recognize the deception of his mislabelled tuck, or that he can't be bothered to do anyting to clear up any misunderstandings. Jackson's art is good, but it's not that good. The Intaglio project is an easy pass for me.
But my biggest issue with Jackson is I can't trust him anymore. He's known for several months now that his Legal Tender decks are erroneously marked as made in Taipee (Taiwan) instead of made in China. I implored him to post an Update on his Legal Tender KS to make it clear to all his backers that the cards are printed in China so that there won't even be a hint of a perception that he's trying to mislead anybody or hiding anything. It just takes a brief 5 minutes for him to post such update, but he still hasn't done so. Again, its been several months since he's known about this. For an individual who's so inclined to post Bible verses on his KS campaigns and website, I find it highly hippocritical that he either doesn't recognize the deception of his mislabelled tuck, or that he can't be bothered to do anyting to clear up any misunderstandings. Jackson's art is good, but it's not that good. The Intaglio project is an easy pass for me.
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The Legal Tender debacle did immense damage to his brand, no doubt. It was also discussed having more decks in the series than the US/Chinese currencies already delivered. He would be wise to abandon the series, as he will likely suffer a big drop off in backers if he launches any follow up.
Whilst I admire his aspiration to deliver the Intaglio deck, I question it on a number of different levels. The primary attraction for delivering a project involving hand engraving would be the nostalgic element to producing a deck in a traditional way - his marketing of the deck thus far supports this - but he is using computer generated images as a base from which to work off? As intimated in the posts above, this way of working is likely to be incredibly labour intensive, making delays almost guaranteed. The deficiencies in end product generated out of working this way will throw at least as many backers out of favour as those who may be attracted by it.
I commend his resolve but can only really see this project further splintering his supporter base and continuing the decline of a once great brand.
Whilst I admire his aspiration to deliver the Intaglio deck, I question it on a number of different levels. The primary attraction for delivering a project involving hand engraving would be the nostalgic element to producing a deck in a traditional way - his marketing of the deck thus far supports this - but he is using computer generated images as a base from which to work off? As intimated in the posts above, this way of working is likely to be incredibly labour intensive, making delays almost guaranteed. The deficiencies in end product generated out of working this way will throw at least as many backers out of favour as those who may be attracted by it.
I commend his resolve but can only really see this project further splintering his supporter base and continuing the decline of a once great brand.
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I couldn't care less about this project... Jack$on has proven one thing (lately), he just don't care about what he's delivering, as long as he makes money out of it. So for this deck I'm sure he'll make tons of money, but what he'll deliver that's another thing altogether... There's a tremendous risk in supporting this project (last time I heard him saying that a specific card project - Legal Tender - was his natural next step the things didn't went so well), as he as proven in the past, you can't trust his word on what the final product will be. Also with his latest late deliver time, you can only guess when you'll get this deck, I would say something going form one to two years from now, but that's just my guess...
I'm sure this will be a hit, and I hope, for everybody sake, that he can keep his word, but I hardly doubt it (insert here a nasty comment about Legal Tender )...
I couldn't care less about this project... Jack$on has proven one thing (lately), he just don't care about what he's delivering, as long as he makes money out of it. So for this deck I'm sure he'll make tons of money, but what he'll deliver that's another thing altogether... There's a tremendous risk in supporting this project (last time I heard him saying that a specific card project - Legal Tender - was his natural next step the things didn't went so well), as he as proven in the past, you can't trust his word on what the final product will be. Also with his latest late deliver time, you can only guess when you'll get this deck, I would say something going form one to two years from now, but that's just my guess...
I'm sure this will be a hit, and I hope, for everybody sake, that he can keep his word, but I hardly doubt it (insert here a nasty comment about Legal Tender )...
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I'd like to believe that but I don't think it's true. I recall reading somewhere on here (or one of the older UC versions) that we (UC) make up about 10% of the KS-pledging market. And whether you believe that or not, believe this- JR has abandoned us with no evidence of ever coming back but continues to create and promote decks of cards. Which goes to show you that our footprint isn't as large as we think it is. His decks are still selling very well in the aftermarket and his projects will still fund trifold. So outside of this community I'm not sure how many other people care about all his recent mistakes, carelessness, etc.Thedissident001 wrote:The Legal Tender debacle did immense damage to his brand, no doubt.
I personally hope that he came down to earth a bit after feeling some sort of fire to his feet but it might be wishful thinking. Either way I'm not backing this project as I didn't back his last.
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Re: Intaglio - Hand Engraved deck by Jackson Robinson
I'm dubious of this simply because of the reason already mentioned: any attempt to hand emboss the decks from computer generated files is bound to be a problem waiting for a mess.
The Legal Tender decks are proof that he will deliver a less than quality product. I have refused to comment so far, but my US Legal Tender decks aren't even sealed correctly. Loose cellophane for one thing.-and consistently that way. I suppose that it's possible mine came from a "bad spot" in the process, but...
The Legal Tender decks are proof that he will deliver a less than quality product. I have refused to comment so far, but my US Legal Tender decks aren't even sealed correctly. Loose cellophane for one thing.-and consistently that way. I suppose that it's possible mine came from a "bad spot" in the process, but...
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Re: Intaglio - Hand Engraved deck by Jackson Robinson
I'd like to do some math on how long it should take him to do these plates...
Assumptions from the video:
Working exclusively on Intaglio, it should take JR anywhere from 132 to 270 days beginning to end.
Possible Delays:
With production time as well as engraving time, I think the earliest we could possibly see a fulfillment is December 2017, and the latest is December 2018.
This range based on JR working nonstop with no delays (unlikely) and barring catastrophic delays (possible).
So a realistic expectation in my eyes is summer of 2018.
Assumptions from the video:
- JR said it "may" take him 2-3 days per plate.
- He's already done 5 plates.
- He also said 4 plates per court (although I suspect this number will drop to 2 when he realizes how long it's taking and how long it takes to align with the other plates)
Working exclusively on Intaglio, it should take JR anywhere from 132 to 270 days beginning to end.
Possible Delays:
- The above estimate doesn't include the tuck plate(s) he needs
- Or bonus cards like a second joker.
- Plates that need re-doing for whatever reason
- JR is unlikely to be working 'undisturbed' on Intaglio over the next X days since like most artists his works/attention tend to overlap.
- The numbered cards may end up taking significantly less time than expected due to their sparse nature.
- His speed may improve while working on the plates, cutting down the 2-3 day turnaround time.
With production time as well as engraving time, I think the earliest we could possibly see a fulfillment is December 2017, and the latest is December 2018.
This range based on JR working nonstop with no delays (unlikely) and barring catastrophic delays (possible).
So a realistic expectation in my eyes is summer of 2018.
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Some people had pledge by mistake on the most expensive tier for the gallery deck but they have switched now. So you get $200 off in the first tier. Still very expensive though
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Hoping to afford a "Gallery" deck, but wow! $$$$$$! Went with the Black Standard Edition deck.
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