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Roman Kotiv the Demon Deck guy? Did he get the artwork or something? Thought that dude was under a rock dodging the spotlight?
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Sorry for the double post but here is a link to a preview of the project. There is a deal for original backers at $25 for 2 decks and a couple other things. Yet I can get the same two decks for a couple bucks less. Even less on the early bird. Not much of a deal if you ask me. Not even being printed by USPC which is a step down. I don't even know what their quality is like, I haven't heard good things about their stock and finish on previous decks.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/89 ... n=c3da64eb

Oh and as for the last comment, apparently Roma is working with the original designer of the deck Milan.
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If people are concerned about the tuck, it looks just as good/as the same without the Bicycle logo. They can become ex-bike fanatics.
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Bikefanatic wrote:If people are concerned about the tuck, it looks just as good/as the same without the Bicycle logo. They can become ex-bike fanatics.
Not even being printed by USPC, i'm more concerned about the quality. I guess i'll find out once the Defunctorums arrive.

My main concern is how he expects this to fund when 810 people have been screwed over already in the original project.
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I did a little reading and Ed Nash is not involved in this second offering. The original project featured art work by Milan Colovic who apparently never received any payment from the first project. Roma Kotiv has teamed up with Milan Colovic to do the artwork for this second project which is in no way affiliated with Ed Nash nor his Company Altius Management. Further more Roma and Milan have decided to offer a special tier for the original backers not to "make-up" for what Nash did, but as a goodwill gesture. Keep in mind Milan Colovic was screwed over by Nash along with the backers.
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jerichoholic wrote:Sorry for the double post but here is a link to a preview of the project. There is a deal for original backers at $25 for 2 decks and a couple other things. Yet I can get the same two decks for a couple bucks less. Even less on the early bird. Not much of a deal if you ask me. Not even being printed by USPC which is a step down.
Nope, you're wrong. This $25 deal includes original asylum deck, and asylum inmate deck (which I cannot find in any other pledge level). Looks like this deck is exclusive for original project backers, only in bundle.

And regarding quality - will check on their Defunctorum cards. If it is good - then it is not step down. USPC is not the only company in the world, capable to print quality cards. There also are other, like Legends and so on. So there is a possibility that we will add NPCC to the white-list too :) Will see
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Don't know if you want to start a new thread or not, but this deck is being relaunched tomorrow May 1st!

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Yesterday, I received an e-mail from the Assistant Attorney General in Washington State's Consumer Protection Division. They are asking for my information related to my pledge for the original Asylum project.

This lawsuit is moving forward. And that pleases me greatly.
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Well, lookie here. Arrived via the mail today (did have to sign for it....)
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Wait, what?

So some of us spent money on this new project for sub-par decks and now the actual deck is being shipped out? Bit of a waste, for me anyway.

Is this just for American backers though, or for everyone?
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jerichoholic wrote:Wait, what?

So some of us spent money on this new project for sub-par decks and now the actual deck is being shipped out? Bit of a waste, for me anyway.

Is this just for American backers though, or for everyone?
There was no note included, and I've seen no updates anywhere, so your guess is as good as mine. I *do* hope it's an indication that other backers will receive their decks soon, as well.
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This is a good thing.
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Well will you look at what came in the mail. Nice going State Attorney General for WA state. Now my next oldest Kickstarter project due is a book that was supposed to ship on August of 2013

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You didn't back the Green Army Men deck?
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yes but got refunded by Adam a long time ago
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Thats actually great to read!
If he doesnt pay he goes to jail right?
My $40 i had pledged will be lost , but if he will go to jail and get a special treatment under the shower ...ok ok!
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Can we get this AG to go after the rest of the KS scammers too? Can we?
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I sent the AG ofice a note about some of the other card projects that were scams mainly the Founders project Let's see if he reacts or answers
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badpete69 wrote:Check this article out guys

http://www.atg.wa.gov/news/news-release ... shady-deal
That was a good read. Makes me ask the question: If he paid the fines why send out the decks. Sounds like he had the decks all along and was sitting upon a throne of cards.
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Yes Please send him after Adam Clark, and Dept of Design.

I too got my Deck.
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DukeBoy wrote:Yes Please send him after Adam Clark, and Dept of Design.

I too got my Deck.

Likewise, with regard to Adam. I never received my refund for Green Army.

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Maybe he's trying to fulfill the project to avoid paying the penalties?
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jerichoholic wrote:Maybe he's trying to fulfill the project to avoid paying the penalties?
That was my thought too. and I think Washington State gets to sign for theirs so he has proof of delivery.
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Mine were just left in my mailbox... Asylum decks? what asylum decks?
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So, I just barely missed out on the KS campaign for the original deck (back in fall of 2012). That was probably for the best, considering!
But I sent the campaign a message in early 2013 asking if they would let me know if/when they had any extra decks to sell....

Lo and behold... TODAY, I got a message from Ed Nash himself ("Altius Management") asking if I was "still interested in purchasing some of these decks?". :shock: :lol:

um.... i think... not. :roll:
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Today i got my 2 decks i had plegded for in the mail!
Its like almost 4 years later....haha.....i never thought i would receive the decks.
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OK - You 2 have really fu##ed up my buzz. What is true?
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He actually sent all backers a message, or two, recently about addresses and what not, was shocked to receive any messages from him. He actually had the gall to re-state what he had said before, that he always intended to fulfill the project, which is bs because it wouldn't have taken 4 years to fulfill!
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jerichoholic wrote:He actually sent all backers a message, or two, recently about addresses and what not, was shocked to receive any messages from him. He actually had the gall to re-state what he had said before, that he always intended to fulfill the project, which is bs because it wouldn't have taken 4 years to fulfill!
I guess he has been forced by court to fulfill. The decks i had received were produced in 2012 by the usps.
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