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Re: A strategy for dealing with deadbeat Kickstarters

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Pixel Initiative wrote:Yes I don't think its a good way to honour your backers by flogging the decks cheaper before sending rewards. It would be tempting to sell them off quickly I guess but surely a steady flow of decks at your original Kickstarter price would bring more income eventually and also give you time to full fill reward.
I'm pretty sure they do this because there are usually more costs in a KS project than they anticipate, and to make some quick cash to be able to fulfill the project they sell off whatever leftover stock they have at bulk rates.
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Well, here's another update in case any of y'all are interested.

As of December second, I was expecting 9 decks that had been previously expected to ship in September, October, or November, plus another 2 decks anticipated sometime in December.

I have received exactly 1 out of those 11: Super Suits.

Here are the 10 Kickstarter decks that were anticipated around September, October, November , or December that I still eagerly await:
  • Hawaiian (September) -- As of Dec. 10th, still "hope to be shipping [orders with anything more than just the Bicycle decks] in the next few weeks."
  • Heretic (September) -- Still on track for shipping to commence in January (after shipment re-routed to New York)
  • Mayhem (October) -- Decks printed as of Dec 10th, but not yet sent to Cardicians. No news since then.
  • Muertos - Day of the Dead (October) -- Orders that included color decks likely to ship out early January, given delays from vendor.
  • Golden Spike (October) -- Gold Edition and Black Ink are still en route; same shipping issues as some of the other EPCC/LPCC projects. Shipping to backers likely in mid- to late-January.
  • Get MADE (October) -- Still in production mode at USPCC, as of December 17th.
  • Malam (November) -- Tuck re-design has been resolved; production to begin soon. This is also an EPCC deck, so expect shipping delays on top of that.
  • Impressions (November) -- There were some production delays. Shipping now scheduled to start this coming week.
  • Empire "Bloodlines" (December) -- Will start shipping "as 2015 begins."
  • 1876, Mauger Quadruplicate Restoration (December) -- One of the decks has been received by the project creators, but the others are still in production at USPCC. More info to follow.
I was lucky enough to be allowed to order The Science Deck and The Sawdust Deck outside of their KS projects, and both arrived this month.

As I've stated before, I still don't anticipate any of these projects are going to end up on the wall of shame. In each case, the project creators are responding to the backers from time to time (and some certainly are quicker to respond than others). Any others out there that are running a bit behind schedule that I'm not listing here?

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Call of Cthulhu: writhing dark(August)--expected to have everything January 21st.

That looks like the only one I have that is late and hasn't at least started shipping.
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Steampunk Bandits was due in November. No update since Dec 11th when they said they should finish shipping in the next couple of days. Some people have said they received theirs but, I haven't gotten mine.

Seasons is going to miss the December mark because of a problem with the tuckcase.

Pirate Carrds was also due in December but, will be Jan? Feb? (First time printing with USPC and wasn't prepared for their art submission requirements was how he explained it).

Three Amigos had an unrealistic December date but says they are still hoping for January. Frankly, they are the only ones that concern me at the moment. I hope they prove me wrong.
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Is it too soon to add Cardicians to the list? They have not completely delivered on the Steel and Mayhem decks, aren't responding to people, and their site is down! Not giving them anymore money myself!
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jerichoholic wrote:Is it too soon to add Cardicians to the list? They have not completely delivered on the Steel and Mayhem decks, aren't responding to people, and their site is down! Not giving them anymore money myself!
Wow!

Reading all of the posts here on United Cardists truly proves that in all cases, "Your mileage may vary!"

I received my Steel decks from Cardicians in September; and I've also received my one Mayhem deck too...

So I didn't even know there was a problem getting cards from them until I read your message here.

Now I feel "Lucky," but I also feel bad that you and others haven't had the same good fortune that I have had with these decks.

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Well fortunately I did get the Steel deck, if I recall, but i'm still waiting on the Mayhem. And reading the comments on the projects, you can see there are quite a few people still waiting for both decks and not getting any responses. And their site has been down for a couple of months at least.

I also found it quite odd when they posted an update on the Steel project saying they were waiting to complete shipping on them before starting the Mayhem decks, then they contradicted themselves later on with an update on the Mayhem deck saying they hadn't received them yet from the USPC. So why make a statement about shipping something if you haven't gotten it yet, just made them look bad imo. They made it sound like they would start shipping Mayhem right after they finished shipping the Steel decks but turns out they weren't even made yet.
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I got my Steel deck rewards as well and had some missing and damaged item. I messaged them about it and although they never replied I received the missing/replacement rewards yesterday. It would've been nice if they had let me know they were sending them but I'm still very satisfied with the rewards I received. I'm still waiting on the Mayhem which includes a FREE brick of decks that I won.
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I didn't pledge for the Steel deck but, my Mayhems arrived today.

Still no sign of my Steampunk Bandits. :(
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DragonSoul wrote:I didn't pledge for the Steel deck but, my Mayhems arrived today.

Still no sign of my Steampunk Bandits. :(

I was looking at that wondering if I overlooked them. Very unusual for GW not to ship a deck on schedule. The holidays were quite busy for them I'm sure, so I'm willing to give them some leeway.
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Unfortunately delays is the norm, whether they're caused by artwork problems, production issues or poor time planning. In all above cases, the worst that can happen is exactly this: a delay. Not really a big deal for the backer I guess, but a real pain for the creator (at least speaking for myself). What is annoying and certainly a red flag is the lack of communication by some creators. A successful campaign requires A LOT of work and in many cases more money than initially expected. This may tempt creators who have merely hit their funding goal to be less enthusiastic when it comes to fulfillment.
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DragonSoul wrote:I didn't pledge for the Steel deck but, my Mayhems arrived today.

Still no sign of my Steampunk Bandits. :(
I received mine 2 weeks ago and my package was sent to me on 12th of December.
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Then there's...

Elements by Alien Ink/Alien Slink. Original date was September, then Oct, then Nov, Dec, Jan. His excuse the first couple months was getting his Wine deck shipped first. Now it's "I had to get a new full time job (As many as 45 hours a week!) and I'm too busy. He refuses to update on where the cards are at in the printing stage or if he has even signed the contract yet. The updates have all been about how busy he is and how great his company is doing with non KS projects. When he bothers to update, which is about every 4-6 weeks.
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rousselle wrote:Any others out there that are running a bit behind schedule that I'm not listing here?
Are you asking about near-term fails? Or longer-out disasters? After Founders and Alienslink, here are a couple that might fit the category:
  • The Type Deck -- Originally promised for November 2013. Chris Cavill started his campaign by leveraging the Kickstarter publicity into a day job, then he stopped work on the project completely and went into radio silence. Updates come out once every three months or so. Bottom line: the *artwork* isn't done yet. He hasn't even *contacted* USPCC yet, so he doesn't even know what the newest prices are, or anything at all about fulfillment or shipping. Radio silence reigns.
  • Alice of Wonderland -- Also originally promised for November 2013. Apparently the cards are all printed and sitting in Juan Solorzano's house. His ex-partner says that he used the KS money to buy a car. Juan says the money is gone and he's trying to fund the shipping out of his own day job money. Every month or so we get reports that a couple more decks shipped--so something is happening. Many backers have offered to pay the shipping separately if he'll just give out the cards, but that doesn't seem to be working. A lawsuit has been filed by the ex-partner. Radio silence has become the rule in this project as well.
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Joe is in the process of updating the Hall of Shame posts, so I will point these out.
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Mike Ratledge wrote:Joe is in the process of updating the Hall of Shame posts, so I will point these out.
I can see Victor having a hayday with this shit. But you need at least one policeman or Victor who calls stuff out. Kind of odd though. He has not pissed anyone off in 6 months.
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Well I'm glad im not pissing anyone off, lol. You should check out my KS Hall of Shame videos!
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sprouts1115 wrote: Kind of odd though. He has not pissed anyone off in 6 months.
Yep, good contributor and often referenced UC posts on social media. I wish I could get in magician over on Facebook to consistently post here.
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For those who are interested:

As of my last post on December twenty-eighth, I was expecting 10 decks that had been previously expected to ship in September, October, November, or December. There was also another 6 decks anticipated sometime in January.

Before January actually arrived, I actually received one of the decks anticipated for January -- the Metal Deck. And, in the time since I made my last post on the subject, I received one of the decks originally slated for October: Mayhem (by Cardicians). That means that as of now in mid-January, I'm still looking forward to receiving 9 decks that are past their anticipated ship date, and another 5 that were originally expected to ship in January. If you've been following this thread, you'll notice that these numbers are going up every month. In most cases, the issue is fulfillment and shipping times from the manufacturers are getting longer and longer. As I've stated before, I fully expect all of these projects to ship. Eventually. If they were to all arrive in these next two weeks, how cool would that be? :-)

Here are the 14 Kickstarter decks that were anticipated around September, October, November, December, or January that I still eagerly await:
  • Hawaiian (September) -- As of Jan. 9th, they were expecting the rest of their decks to arrive by around now (the 19th), and shipping would commence thereafter.
  • Heretic (September) -- As of Jan. 16th, the decks are "on the truck" to the fulfillment center, and shipping is to begin shortly thereafter.
  • Muertos - Day of the Dead (October) -- Orders that included color decks started shipping out as of January 6th. I haven't received mine yet, but Steve had a ton of orders to ship out, so I'm not entirely surprised. Chatter on the comments page indicates that shipping is expected to complete this week.
  • Golden Spike (October) -- As of January 12th, Jody was expecting to receive the rest of the decks any day now, and shipping to backers would commence shortly thereafter.
  • Get MADE (October) -- As of Jan 15th, they were planning to lock down backer addresses by the 20th (presumably so as to start printing shipping labels). So... soon?
  • Malam (November) -- Production on the cards is "rolling" at EPCC as of Jan 18; anticipate another month for shipping to Michael once printing is complete before shipping to backers can begin.
  • Impressions (November) -- As of Jan 12th, shipping to backers was to have been completed. I haven't received mine yet (as of this past Saturday), but every day, people post in the comments section about receiving theirs, so I anticipate mine should arrive any day now.
  • Empire "Bloodlines" (December) -- "Stage 1 shipping" to backers has begun, as of Jan 16. I will probably be in one of the later stages, as I ordered LE's.
  • 1876, Mauger Quadruplicate Restoration (December) -- As of Dec 30th, "We expect to see the finished cards the 3rd week of January and they will be shipped out to you at that time."
  • Black Book Manifesto (January) -- In the thick of production as of January 17th.
  • Mana Playing Cards No 3 (January) -- awaiting printed proofs as of December 31st.
  • Metropol Lux (January) -- Orders to start shipping out after January 14th (according to update posted on Jan 3rd).
  • Coat of Arms (January) -- As of Jan 6th, expecting cards from USPCC by end of January, and EPCC either by end of January or beginning of February.
  • Draconian (January) -- As of Jan 7th, decks were produced and on their way to the fulfillment center (Kings Wild), and supporting materials, likewise. Shipping likely to begin soon.
So, that's the update on my (recent) Kickstarter campaigns where I'm still awaiting fulfillment. What about the rest of y'all? Since I last posted, a few of you have weighed in; have you received your decks?

Cbkimble: Call of Cthulu Writhing Dark (August)
Cbkimble: Mayhem (October) -- Have you received yours yet? I received mine last week.
DragonSoul: Steampunk Bandits (November)
DragonSoul: Seasons (December)
DragonSoul: Pirate Carrds (December)
DragonSoul: Three Amigos (December)
Jericoholic: Mayhem (October) -- Victor, have you received these yet?
nECr0MaNCeD: Elements (September) -- Any news from Alien (s)link?

GBAllison -- yes, I'm looking more at "recent" slippages rather than full-on, year-long fails, although this thread in general is about all kinds of fails, so please do keep us all updated!

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No, still haven't received my Mayhem. My current overdue list is as follows:

- Call of Cthulu Writhing Dark (August)
- Heretic (September)
- Mayhem (October)
- Golden Spike (October)
- Steampunk Bandits (November) although I should receive it today or tomorrow.
- Malam (November)
- Empire "Bloodlines" (December)
- Seasons (December)
- Prisma Visions Tarot (December)

Here's what is due this month.
-Black Book Manifesto (January)
- Mana Playing Cards No 3 (January)
- Draconian (January)
- Choice (January) - as of January 13 -
I think it is safe to say that they will be in your hands soon, I just can't give an exact date yet as I don't know.
- Arcanum (January) - as of January 9 -
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My list looks much like Cbkimble's minus the Steampunk Bandits and Malam decks.

As for Elements and Alien (st)ink... nothing since the last update on Jan 9th just saying he still doesn't have an ETA and he is still too busy working his day job a grueling 45 hours a week to post more updates. Still no answer to the questions I posed. "Have you signed the contract with the printer?", "Are the cards in the queue at the printer?" and "Has the printer given you an ETA?". I sent an e-mail to EPCC asking them that went unanswered. I expected that and don't blame them. Since it's clear no contact has been signed it'll be several months, if ever we see these cards.
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I figured I'd update my list since it's been a month.

I did receive all these rewards
- Heretic (September)
- Golden Spike (October)
- Steampunk Bandits (November)
- Draconian (January)
- Prisma Visions Tarot (December)

I'm still waiting on these
- Call of Cthulu Writhing Dark (August)
- Mayhem (October) - looks like shipping wont be complete till mid March from my understanding
- Seasons (December)
- Malam (November)
- Empire "Bloodlines" (December)
- Black Book Manifesto (January)
- Mana Playing Cards No 3 (January)
- Choice (January)
- Arcanum (January)

added to the list due in February and haven't received:
-Bicycle Titanic Playing Cards - USPCC has printed. Waiting on EPCC.
-Venexiana Dark - No work from EPCC when printing will be complete
-Four Beasts Playing Cards - Should be delivering
-Russian Folk Art Playing Cards - began shipping February 10
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Have some of the Titanic from USPCC but have more coming. Still waiting on EPCC. Not sure how much longer for EPCC but once we get the rest from USPCC we should be able to start fulfilling orders mid March. We're already sorting The special seal orders.
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Cbkimble wrote:-Russian Folk Art Playing Cards - began shipping February 10
My decks arrived (at my shipping consolidator) today from Natalia. Yours probably aren't far away.

I guess my biggest wait is on Seasons - largely because I went a little big on the pledging :-) - the latest update from Alex (Feb 3) is that USPCC has it queued for mid-march..... delays getting the embossing right on the tucks seem partially responsible.
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Noel Quiles who developed completed KS decks didn't follow through with Bicycle Meridian. His profile was deleted sometime. Also Nathanael Mortensen still has people waiting on decks from two projects.
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Re: A strategy for dealing with deadbeat Kickstarters

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For those who are interested:

As of my last post on January nineteenth, I was expecting 14 decks that had been previously expected to ship in September, October, November, December, or January. There were also a few decks I was anticipating for February.

In the time since I made my last post on the subject, I received decks from one project originally slated for September (Heretic), three from October (Muertos - Day of the Dead, Golden Spike, Get MADE), one from November (Impressions), one from January (Draconian), and even one on schedule expected in February (Russian Folk Art). In the meantime, I'll add to my list of "eagerly anticipated decks" two projects that were originally estimated to ship in February.

Here are the 10 Kickstarter decks that were anticipated around September, October, November, December, January, or February that I still eagerly await:
  • Hawaiian (September) -- As of February 18th, "shipping is continuing." I'd ordered a Standard deck, which they say they still haven't received their complete shipment of, so I suppose shipment of this one could be any day now....
  • Malam (November) -- Still waiting for a proof of the tuck box, as of Feb 9th. One gets the sense that progress is happening, but really... very... slowly....
  • Empire "Bloodlines" (December) -- "Stage 1 shipping" to backers began as of Jan 16. No news since then.
  • 1876, Mauger Quadruplicate Restoration (December) -- As of February 2nd, some decks were expected the second week of the month, while some others were expected this coming week, and shipping would take place as soon as they arrived. No word since then. Since my order included some of the latter batch, I imagine my order won't ship until late next week at the earliest.
  • Black Book Manifesto (January) -- As of February 12th, still waiting for decks to arrive so that they can begin fulfillment.
  • Mana Playing Cards No 3 (January) -- As of February 9th, Erik is shopping for a new tuck box manufacturer, since each of the manufacturers he had spoken with thus far didn't want to or wasn't able to produce the tuck as designed. No SWAG on a new estimated fulfillment time frame.
  • Metropol Lux (January) -- As of January 25th, the West Coast port "strike" (for lack of a better word) resulted in re-routing of the decks in-bound from Taiwan. No news yet as to when they will (or if they have) arrive(d).
  • Coat of Arms (January) -- As of Jan 21st, cards from both USPCC and LPCC anticipated approximately mid-February. No news since then.
  • Bicycle Titanic (February) -- RJ noted just a couple of posts ago that his USPCC order is streaming in, and work on sorting decks by customized seals has begun, with fulfillment likely to begin in mid-March.
  • Venexiana Dark (February) -- As of February 8th, Lotrek was still awaiting an update from the factory on anticipated ship date.
Gotta say, I've enjoyed all of the decks I've received so far this year, and some of them are absolute stand-outs. 2015 is already giving 2014 a run for it's money in terms of quality and design.

Glad to see how some of the rest of your are doing on yours, as well. Information is power, and all that. :)
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Re: A strategy for dealing with deadbeat Kickstarters

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For those who are interested:

As of my last post on February 22nd, I was expecting 10 decks that had been previously expected to ship in September, October, November, December, January, or February. Notice, that's six months of waiting, in the oldest outstanding case.

In the time since I made my last post on the subject, I finally received the last remaining deck from a project originally anticipated for September (Hawaiian)... and that's it. I've certainly received a number of other decks, but none of them were for projects that I backed on Kickstarter (although one was for a KS project I bought from after funding had closed.) Gotta say... the last several weeks have not been good for Kickstarter projects.

So, here's the list of KS projects I am eagerly anticipating that had originally projected ship dates from as far back as last October up through this month (March). Notice I'm adding two to the list for this month:
  • Malam (November) -- As of March 11th, a final decision has been made on the tuck case, which presumably means that production may now commence.
  • Empire "Bloodlines" (December) -- Per the last update on Feb 25th, the Limited Editions should be available to begin delivery any day now. Orders with the Warrior guards are impacted by a redesign. (The Warrior guard doesn't affect me, but I did order LEs.)
  • 1876, Mauger Quadruplicate Restoration (December) -- The remainder of the editions they were waiting for were due to arrive at their warehouse within a few days, as of their post on March 10th, with shipping to backers presumably to begin this week.
  • Black Book Manifesto (January) -- As of today, March 16th, still waiting for decks to arrive so that they can begin fulfillment. They are expecting to receive their decks possibly by the end of this week.
  • Mana Playing Cards No 3 (January) -- Per an update posted on March 13th, a new tuck manufacturer has been selected to provide mock-ups of the redesigned tucks; mock-ups are anticipated to reach Mana in 7 to 10 days.
  • Metropol Lux (January) -- The re-routed decks finally arrived in North America, and are "on the rails" bound for the East Coast from the West. Decks should arrive at Metropol Central (in Ontario) by roughly March 23rd, with shipping to begin soon thereafter.
  • Coat of Arms (January) -- As of February 25th, the EPCC decks were further delayed, and are now expected to leave the factory by around March 26th, with shipping from there to Arizona expected to take 2 to 3 weeks.
  • Bicycle Titanic (February) -- Per a March 11th update, fulfillment has begun on pledges that didn't include the deluxe editions, which are still being finalized at the EPCC factory.
  • Venexiana Dark (February) -- As of March 6th, the tuck proofs revealed a need for some tweaks, which are underway. Lotrek is very satisfied with the proofs for the cards themselves.
  • Recore (March) -- fulfillment is in progress; my decks are expected to arrive within a day or two.
  • The Coven (March) -- production at EPCC was held up for Chinese New Year (per an update on March 8th). Kirk anticipates having more news soon about the production schedule.
I'm not being facetious when I say I am eagerly anticipating each of these projects. And, despite delays, I have full confidence that all of these will be fulfilled. It is interesting to note, however, how we are still feeling the pinch from severe production delays both at USPCC and EPCC/LPCC, combined with shipping delays from the recent port labor slow-down felt along the west coast of North America. Hopefully we'll start to see the backlog start to clear in the near future.

What are the rest of y'all experiencing with regard to your KS projects?
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Re: A strategy for dealing with deadbeat Kickstarters

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In addition to all the above decks that Rousselle listed, here are the ones I'm still waiting on :

Pirate CARRds by Don Maitz (Dec) - Some have reported receiving theirs but I'm still waiting on my deck. Last update was on 2/22 mentioned how busy Don is and that though shipping may be slow, we wlll eventually receive the decks

Twins Edition Refined (Feb) - this guys has been awful at updating backers since the campaign ended. His last update informed backers of a very bad infection that he had to have minor surgery on which was why he hasn't sent any updates but that he would be receiving the cards from USPCC at the port soon. That was a month ago. Out of all the decks on this list, I am most concerned about this one.

SEASONS playing cards (Dec) - These are supposed to arrive mid-March

Choice playing cards (Jan) - Shared proofs from EPCC on 2/11. No update since.

Rongo Rongo (Mar) - MAOI tucks have arrived. They expect to receive decks from USPCC in April and start fulfillment in May

Amigos (Dec) - updated ship date is 4/16

Feudal Ninja (Mar) - Update came in yesterday and the cards are printing at USPCC now. The tucks finished printing last week and they expect to receive the decks sometime next week at which point they will begin fulfillment.

Defunctorum and Defunctorum Cruor(Mar) - according to the update the cards have arrived and should start shipping out any day now

Arcanum (Jan) - I received my tracking from Gamblers and should receive my decks in the following days

Life Comes in # (Feb) - As of 3/7, the cards are all in but they have to be assembled as each cardsin the deck came in separate packs, then placed in the tuck boxes then shipped

Fishing for Compliments (Mar) - Proofs from Legends approved and production should wrap on 3/20 and shipped to backers in April

Tendril Ascendant and Nightfall (Mar) -Cards are printed and should arrive next week and fulfillment to begin in the near future

Silly Macabre (Feb) - according to update yesterday, everything has been shipped out to US backers and international backers are getting theirs sent this week

i thinks that's all for now.
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Re: A strategy for dealing with deadbeat Kickstarters

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As far as HMPC is concerned, and although I see that backers show me great understanding and confidence regarding delays, I cannot justify people waiting for months before they get my decks. As I've stated in my ICONS campaign, this is the last time that my backers will have to wait more than 40 days to get their rewards, regardless of the printing company.

However, it's true that in most cases the delay isn't the creator's fault. I believe there is no honest designer who is happy having people waiting while he/she does other things than completing the artwork.
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Re: A strategy for dealing with deadbeat Kickstarters

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There are things that the creators could do to make things better such as having the art done and approved in advance, or at least before the project ends, and avoiding using multiple printers for decks, among other things. The only one that can successfully get away with using more than one printer without major hassles is Gamblers because they can print their own decks through Liberty.
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