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Re: Mana - Platinum/Gold/"Sybil" - SHIPPING

Unread postby cosmicsecret » Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:36 am  

Got mine today here in germany - no customs tax to pay (was declared as $25 value thats nice!) - and they handle great!
Finally i can put a checkmark in this kickstarter - once again BIG THANKS to sinjin7 who shakkled Eric awake to get the things rolling.
Wish you a Merry X-Mas Guys!
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Re: Mana - Platinum/Gold/"Sybil" - SHIPPING (wap)

Unread postby Siege » Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:38 am  

Same as Jock1971 - got my decks on the 19th in U.K. sans tracking.
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Re: Mana - Platinum/Gold/"Sybil" - SHIPPING

Unread postby dogbone72 » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:42 am  

Anyone else got their decks? Still waiting in the U.S.
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Re: Mana - Platinum/Gold/"Sybil" - SHIPPING

Unread postby sms69x » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:52 am  

Received my package today! Everything was there. The best part was that it was shipped from Germany and thus I didn't had to pay any customs!

Thanks again to sinjin for his great work in pushing this guy to do the right thing.

PS: The decks are beautiful, but I'm sure I'm done with this clown for any future project...
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Re: Mana - Platinum/Gold/"Sybil" - SHIPPING (wap)

Unread postby montecarlojoe » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:14 am  

Ya mine arrived just before the holidays in the UK too
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Re: Mana - Platinum/Gold/"Sybil" - SHIPPING

Unread postby MagikFingerz » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:06 pm  

Got mine in Norway, arrived at the post office on the 22nd of December. Also shipped from Germany.
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Re: Mana - Platinum/Gold/"Sybil" - SHIPPING

Unread postby phantom1412 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:10 am  

Got them safely here too.
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Re: Mana - Platinum/Gold/"Sybil" - SHIPPING

Unread postby TGunitedcardists » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:25 am  

I received 2 of each platinum, gold and sybil safely in Japan in early a few days ago. To Erik's credit, he came through and delivered.
I don't know if we've seen the last of Erik Mana playing cards. All of what happened could have been avoided with better project planning and COMMUNICATION instead of the ostrich in the sand technique for the longest while.

He's obviously a top tier designer. I don't think we've seen the last of his projects, but the next one will probably be a while out. I hope he gets things sorted and everything in order if he tries again.

The wait sucked. The cards are nice.
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Re: Mana - Platinum/Gold/"Sybil" - SHIPPING

Unread postby dogbone72 » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:58 am  

Still nothing on my end. I am waiting for my brick of Sybil + 1 set of Platinum. He's still the ostrich in the sand, i' have been writing to him inquiring about my cards and he just refuses to reply.
He may come back with new projects but i don't think it will be Erik Mana Playing Cards. There's no way anyone who have heard of this ruckus will ever back him if they knew it's him.
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Re: Mana - Platinum/Gold/"Sybil" - SHIPPING

Unread postby jerichoholic » Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:26 am  

We may not have seen the last of his projects, the problem is will anyone back them? I think he's lost most of his backers from this fiasco. And I think he's only delivering because there was legal threats made.
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Re: Mana - Platinum/Gold/"Sybil" - SHIPPING

Unread postby MagikFingerz » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:05 am  

I think the only way he could come back to the custom card business is as a designer ONLY, as in designing a deck for GW or a LUXX deck for JP for example. I know there have been a few "I will never buy an Erik Mana deck again after this fiasco"-comments, but I do believe his artwork would sell quite well as long as the financial and logistical aspects are handled by someone else.
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Re: Mana - Platinum/Gold/"Sybil" - SHIPPING

Unread postby Mike Ratledge » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:18 pm  

I think we universally need to thank John ("sinjin7") for his outstanding service to the group by engaging Erik on the legal aspects of the Sybil / Mana #3 decks KS project.

Darned nice decks, frankly. Whether Erik can wrangle future successes? It's mostly up to us, I believe.
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Re: Mana - Platinum/Gold/"Sybil" - SHIPPING

Unread postby vasta41 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:56 am  

Mike Ratledge wrote:I think we universally need to thank John ("sinjin7") for his outstanding service to the group by engaging Erik on the legal aspects of the Sybil / Mana #3 decks KS project.

Thank you, John! Now please get to work on tracking down Adam for my Army Men deck. 8-)

Mike Ratledge wrote:Darned nice decks, frankly. Whether Erik can wrangle future successes? It's mostly up to us, I believe.

It's a shame- I LOVED all Mana decks. We lost a great deck artist, guys.
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Re: Mana - Platinum/Gold/"Sybil" - SHIPPING

Unread postby montecarlojoe » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:33 am  

Have we? I agree with Tom; no need to lose him as an artist but he sure as hell needs someone else to project manage...
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Re: Mana - Platinum/Gold/"Sybil" - SHIPPING

Unread postby vasta41 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:48 am  

montecarlojoe wrote:Have we? I agree with Tom; no need to lose him as an artist but he sure as hell needs someone else to project manage...


"Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me." I for one will never back another one of his projects even if he promised Jesus Christ Himself would come down from the heavens and hand-deliver the deck(s) to me. I would assume (hope) that no one else will either after the fiasco that we all just went through. Obviously KS isn't the only way to make playing cards but if he was so strapped for cash that he could barely ship the Mana No. 3 decks out then I don't possibly see how he could find the capital to fund his own deck(s). The only other way (unless he sold his services) for him to fund a deck before he created it would be pre-orders but that's the same risk as starting a KS campaign. So call me pessimistic and I truly hope I am wrong but I really don't see how the world will see another Mana deck. At least any time soon.
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Unread postby montecarlojoe » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:54 am  

Well sure, but HIS projects and projects for which he is the artist are distinctly different things.
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Re: Mana - Platinum/Gold/"Sybil" - SHIPPING

Unread postby PrincessTrouble » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:14 am  

vasta41 wrote:
Mike Ratledge wrote:I think we universally need to thank John ("sinjin7") for his outstanding service to the group by engaging Erik on the legal aspects of the Sybil / Mana #3 decks KS project.

Thank you, John! Now please get to work on tracking down Adam for my Army Men deck. 8-)


Don't forget that Founders asshole. He needs to be sued.
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Re: Mana - Platinum/Gold/"Sybil" - SHIPPING

Unread postby vasta41 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:32 pm  

montecarlojoe wrote:Well sure, but HIS projects and projects for which he is the artist are distinctly different things.


That would be best case scenario (like I said, unless he sold his services).
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Re: Mana - Platinum/Gold/"Sybil" - SHIPPING

Unread postby sms69x » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:34 pm  

PrincessTrouble wrote:
vasta41 wrote:
Mike Ratledge wrote:I think we universally need to thank John ("sinjin7") for his outstanding service to the group by engaging Erik on the legal aspects of the Sybil / Mana #3 decks KS project.

Thank you, John! Now please get to work on tracking down Adam for my Army Men deck. 8-)


Don't forget that Founders asshole. He needs to be sued.


I would go as far as also include the Shane "Shame" Tyree, the guy really needs a push also...
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Re: Mana - Platinum/Gold/"Sybil" - SHIPPING

Unread postby sinjin7 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:41 pm  

After dealing with Erik through this long, painful campaign and getting a somewhat inside view of how he works (or doesn't work), this is my conclusion: He's not a scam artist, he always fully intended to eventually fulfill his campaign. However, the road to hell is paved with good intentions and despite whatever intentions he may have had, I am certain that absent the organization of a lawsuit, he was content to keep ducking his head in the sand and we'd still be waiting. He's not good at handling adversity, which makes him shut down. This is exacerbated by his tendency towards feeling sorry for himself and he doesn't fully understand that the so-called "hate" directed at him was self-inflicted and so easily avoidable by simple communication.

Since Kickstarter doesn't do jack squat to protect backers and he didn't get any punitive ramifications for drawing out his project, Erik got comfortable in just letting the time pass. Once he shuts down, this guy needs constant poking and prodding to move forward. When Erik realized we were serious about taking him to court, he knew he couldn't ignore us any longer and he finally reached out to me and I set out a list of conditions for him to meet in order to avoid a lawsuit. But even after that, he would push meeting the conditions right to the limit, or not fully complying and I had to email him on multiple occasions to remind him to fully comply to the conditions he agreed to in order to keep him moving along.

There is no way I trust him to run another Kickstarter campaign knowing what I know of Erik Mana. Left to his own devices, he's prone to inaction when things don't go smoothly. Like I said, he's not out to scam people, and he's made some beautiful decks, including these. But even if someone else manages his campaign and he's just contracted to provide the art, I personally still can't see myself supporting anything associated with Erik because that's how bitter the taste is in my mouth from the Mana Sybil campaign. There may be others who appreciate his art so highly that they're still willing to support him, and to those people I would say, "Good for you, buy and support what moves you, but buyer beware."

Giving credit to where credit is due, I believe Erik's close to finishing his fulfillment of this campaign, but there probably are still a few pledges that slipped through the cracks or are having some logistical/technical difficulties. One person has already contacted me, but if there are any other UC members who still haven't received their pledges, please PM me with your name, backer number, and country of residence and I will contact Erik to make sure that all UC members get their decks.
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