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Mana - Platinum/Gold/"Sybil" - SHIPPING

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:55 pm
by Godzillian


Taken from Mana Playing Cards facebook here:
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This was in the FB post description:

"Mana Playing Cards No.3 #prototype #goldoracle #1000series #comingsoon"

EDIT: From the Mana Playing Cards website here:
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Re: Mana Playing Cards - Gold Oracle Coming Soon

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:01 pm
by vasta41
This is one design I'm not sick of. More.. MORE!

Re: Mana Playing Cards - Gold Oracle Coming Soon

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:38 pm
by Sher
That tuck looks amazing! And loving the back design, too. This is a must have.

Re: Mana Playing Cards - Gold Oracle Coming Soon (wap)

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:46 pm
by Cbkimble
Just ordered a pair of manas. I'll pick this one up when it comes out.

Re: Mana Playing Cards - Gold Oracle Coming Soon

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:43 pm
by TGunitedcardists
He produces some of the best back designs of anyone in the card industry today. Unfortunately his court cards aren't at the same level as his back designs. If he redesigns the court cards to match the quality of his back designs and his jokers, I'd buy bricks instead of just two.

Re: Mana Playing Cards - Gold Oracle Coming Soon

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:04 pm
by Bikefanatic
Dodn't like the first ones with the different color suits, I thought about getting one of the two recent ones but I think I'll get this one.

Re: Mana Playing Cards - Gold Oracle Coming Soon

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:29 am
by msp062
I am excited about these, I wonder if the courts will be recolored standard like the oracle deck.

Re: Mana Playing Cards - Gold Oracle Coming Soon

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:55 pm
by chach
Wonder what the marking system (if any) will be like? See a lot of areas of the design that could be used, looking forward to figuring it out! But still I'd love an unmarked deck of his to be able to use in games.

Re: Mana Playing Cards - Gold Oracle Coming Soon

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:56 am
by msp062
Does anyone know the projected release date for this deck?

Re: Mana Playing Cards - Gold Oracle Coming Soon

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:25 pm
by Sher
Gold and silver private reserves limited to 1000, and one unlimited deck with a sideways tuck. All produced by EPCC.

Re: Mana Playing Cards - Gold Oracle Coming Soon

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:44 pm
by badpete69
Sher will this be a kickstarter or on sale on his website

Re: Mana Playing Cards - Gold Oracle Coming Soon

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:03 pm
by Firthetic
According to his Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/themanadeck), these will be on Kickstarter.

Re: Mana Playing Cards - Gold Oracle Coming Soon

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:33 pm
by Mike Ratledge
msp062 wrote:Does anyone know the projected release date for this deck?
Give us a couple of days, won't be long. Maybe the 1st? Possibly sooner, but not likely.

Re: Mana Playing Cards - Gold Oracle Coming Soon

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:09 am
by Godzillian
EPCC YESSSSS. Hopefully with the same quality as the NOC V3s. Those are frigging amazing. I used to hate the NOCs, but the V3s just handle really really well. Better than anything than USPCC has come up with. I've handled my NOC V3s for days and weeks, but they still handle beautifully. On the other hand, a Virtuoso Summer/Spring becomes unfannable after 2 days.

Re: Mana Playing Cards - Gold Oracle Coming Soon

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:28 am
by decibelhz
Godzillian wrote:EPCC YESSSSS. Hopefully with the same quality as the NOC V3s. Those are frigging amazing. I used to hate the NOCs, but the V3s just handle really really well. Better than anything than USPCC has come up with. I've handled my NOC V3s for days and weeks, but they still handle beautifully. On the other hand, a Virtuoso Summer/Spring becomes unfannable after 2 days.
I agree with you. The NOC v3's are what I use as my staple deck. I use them pretty much for everything these day. Throwing, cardistry, and practicing because they hold up and handle very well. I hope they actually use the same stock as the Gnostic deck though. The diamond finish feels great.

Re: Mana - Gold / Silver Oracle EPCC Coming Soon to Kickstar

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:36 am
by volantangel
The back of the tuckbox is gorgeous, reminiscent of oriental designs. If only the front of the tuckbox was simply plain with embossing of the same pattern used on the back. Also it looks like there could be a different tuck variation with the side loading tuck.

Hope the toploader is the unlimited and the sideloader being the limited, but my gut tells me otherwise.

Re: Mana - Gold / Silver Oracle EPCC Coming Soon to Kickstar

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:38 am
by Sher
volantangel wrote:The back of the tuckbox is gorgeous, reminiscent of oriental designs. If only the front of the tuckbox was simply plain with embossing of the same pattern used on the back. Also it looks like there could be a different tuck variation with the side loading tuck.

Hope the toploader is the unlimited and the sideloader being the limited, but my gut tells me otherwise.
Sorry, I wasn't being clear on my post. Both top loaders are limited to 1000 each (Gold and Silver), and the side loader is the unlimited.

EDIT: If you look closely at the first picture, you can see a diagonal cut along the side of the tuck. I'm guessing it'll be a flip top, similar to D&D's gold private reserve and upcoming Voltige deck. Which means the ornate embossing is actually the front of the deck.

Re: Mana - Gold / Silver Oracle EPCC Coming Soon to Kickstar

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:48 am
by volantangel
Sher wrote:
volantangel wrote:The back of the tuckbox is gorgeous, reminiscent of oriental designs. If only the front of the tuckbox was simply plain with embossing of the same pattern used on the back. Also it looks like there could be a different tuck variation with the side loading tuck.

Hope the toploader is the unlimited and the sideloader being the limited, but my gut tells me otherwise.
Sorry, I wasn't being clear on my post. Both top loaders are limited to 1000 each (Gold and Silver), and the side loader is the unlimited.

EDIT: If you look closely at the first picture, you can see a diagonal cut along the side of the tuck. I'm guessing it'll be a flip top, similar to D&D's gold private reserve and upcoming Voltige deck. Which means the ornate embossing is actually the front of the deck.
Darn, why is my gut feeling always right ? This needs to stop lol

Yeap, i noticed that as well, could be interesting to see how it turns out.

Re: Mana Playing Cards - Gold Oracle Coming Soon

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:20 am
by Mike Ratledge
decibelhz wrote:
Godzillian wrote:EPCC YESSSSS. Hopefully with the same quality as the NOC V3s. Those are frigging amazing. I used to hate the NOCs, but the V3s just handle really really well. Better than anything than USPCC has come up with. I've handled my NOC V3s for days and weeks, but they still handle beautifully. On the other hand, a Virtuoso Summer/Spring becomes unfannable after 2 days.
I agree with you. The NOC v3's are what I use as my staple deck. I use them pretty much for everything these day. Throwing, cardistry, and practicing because they hold up and handle very well. I hope they actually use the same stock as the Gnostic deck though. The diamond finish feels great.
Yes, the latest paper stock upgrade for Expert PCC is quite good, as is the finish, of course. MPC has done a similar upgrade, and their decks handle quite nicely right out of the box. USPCC also made an upgrade to their 'base' paper stock recently, the result is that everybody gets better grade and better feeling cards all around.

It's no longer a question of if they will be competitive any more, all of them have great products, all of them have their own specific niche markets, except of course USPCC is the big dog and everybody tries to keep up. Right now I don't think anyone that has one of each of these latest paper stock decks close at hand can argue that they are all doing great things, and we (cardists, magicians and collectors) all benefit!

Re: Mana - Gold / Silver Oracle EPCC Coming Soon to Kickstar

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:28 pm
by Mike Ratledge
I'll have to revise my estimate for launch on these to be between the 3rd and 7th. Nice campaign, basically very much like Heretic - it's all about the cards and no add-ons except for a stretch goal to make a commemorative coin. There are some Early Bird tiers, but not a lot (well, enough).

Re: Mana - Gold / Silver Oracle EPCC Coming Soon to Kickstar

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:21 pm
by Eoghann
Nice. This is an elegant deck. :)

Re: Mana - Gold / Silver Oracle EPCC Coming Soon to Kickstar

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:25 pm
by Cbkimble
I'm cutting way back on my purchases so I'll probably just pick up a single of each, maybe just the limited pair.

Re: Mana - Gold / Silver Oracle EPCC Coming Soon to Kickstar

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:33 pm
by Godzillian
Mike Ratledge wrote:I'll have to revise my estimate for launch on these to be between the 3rd and 7th. Nice campaign, basically very much like Heretic - it's all about the cards and no add-ons except for a stretch goal to make a commemorative coin. There are some Early Bird tiers, but not a lot (well, enough).
Since it sounds like you know a little more about this campaign than most of us, do you happen to know the pricing for a deck? I'm really hoping it's not going to be stupid pricey like $20 or $18... :|

Re: Mana - Gold / Silver Oracle EPCC Coming Soon to Kickstar

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:40 pm
by chach
The last Mana decks went for 10-12 CAD depending on early bird status. I'd assume somewhere in that range, but maybe a slight increase.

Re: Mana - Gold / Silver Oracle EPCC Coming Soon to Kickstar

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:51 pm
by Mike Ratledge
Godzillian wrote:
Mike Ratledge wrote:I'll have to revise my estimate for launch on these to be between the 3rd and 7th. Nice campaign, basically very much like Heretic - it's all about the cards and no add-ons except for a stretch goal to make a commemorative coin. There are some Early Bird tiers, but not a lot (well, enough).
Since it sounds like you know a little more about this campaign than most of us, do you happen to know the pricing for a deck? I'm really hoping it's not going to be stupid pricey like $20 or $18... :|
Those 1000 each numbered "Silver" and "Gold" Limited Edition Oracle decks are 20CAD or about $18.35 each, and the unlimited decks are 12CAD or about $11.11 - but there are 50 EB decks for $10CA which is about $9.75 each and a set of all three EB for 40CAD (US $36.50) as I recall. Those are delivered US prices.

I didn't ask permission to post this, so I'll let Erik detail the rest.

Re: Mana - Gold / Silver Oracle EPCC Coming Soon to Kickstar

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:03 pm
by Godzillian
Mike Ratledge wrote:
Godzillian wrote:
Mike Ratledge wrote:I'll have to revise my estimate for launch on these to be between the 3rd and 7th. Nice campaign, basically very much like Heretic - it's all about the cards and no add-ons except for a stretch goal to make a commemorative coin. There are some Early Bird tiers, but not a lot (well, enough).
Since it sounds like you know a little more about this campaign than most of us, do you happen to know the pricing for a deck? I'm really hoping it's not going to be stupid pricey like $20 or $18... :|
Those 1000 each numbered "Silver" and "Gold" Limited Edition Oracle decks are 20CAD or about $18 each, and the unlimited decks are 13CAD or about $12.50 - but there are 50 EB decks for $10CA which is about $9.75 each and a set of all three EB for $40 as I recall. I didn't ask permission to post this, so I'll let Erik detail the rest.
Excellent. Thanks a lot for the information. There's no differences between Limited and Unlimited in design right? Just the tuck case is different.

Actually, looking at what Sher posted, looks like Unlimited won't have the Gold version!

Re: Mana - Gold / Silver Oracle EPCC Coming Soon to Kickstar

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:19 pm
by Mike Ratledge
Godzillian wrote:
Mike Ratledge wrote:
Godzillian wrote:Since it sounds like you know a little more about this campaign than most of us, do you happen to know the pricing for a deck? I'm really hoping it's not going to be stupid pricey like $20 or $18... :|
Those 1000 each numbered "Silver" and "Gold" Limited Edition Oracle decks are 20CAD or about $18 each, and the unlimited decks are 13CAD or about $12.50 - but there are 50 EB decks for $10CA which is about $9.75 each and a set of all three EB for $40 as I recall. I didn't ask permission to post this, so I'll let Erik detail the rest.
Excellent. Thanks a lot for the information. There's no differences between Limited and Unlimited in design right? Just the tuck case is different.

Actually, looking at what Sher posted, looks like Unlimited won't have the Gold version!
I do have permission now, so let's see:

Nope, Silver only in the unlimited: $11.11 US (12CAD) each unless you get there for the first 50 - one per customer "EB", those are $9.25 US (10CAD). These are "side-load" format.
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The Oracle #3 Reserve (Silver and Gold, name to be revealed when it launches) are $18.3 US (20CAD). We were thinking maybe launch on the 3rd? They are already approved. You folks ready?
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He's calling them Oracle #3 for now, but they are redesigned and significantly improved and there is a new name, but I can't say (yet).

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Re: Mana - Gold / Silver Oracle EPCC Coming Soon to Kickstar

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:04 am
by charlie81dbz
I managed to get a mixed brick from their last kickstarter and the decks are really beautiful (the backs are just so awesome). I hadn't seen their first deck in person until then. I'll definitely be pledging for these. And OMG it's about time someone made a black and SILVER deck. I know black and gold looks nice, but wow, everyone and their brother has a black and gold deck lately it seems. Plus I just like silver better. :D

charlie :)

Re: Mana - Gold / Silver Oracle EPCC Coming Soon to Kickstar

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:08 am
by chach
Sorry I may have missed it and I'm too lazy to check. Will these or sure be a marked deck?

Re: Mana - Gold / Silver Oracle EPCC Coming Soon to Kickstar

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:27 am
by vasta41
So is the KS mainly for the silver deck, then you can add the gold as an addon? Or will there be combo pledges available for both? And if so, is the EB deal just for the silver or will there be one for the gold too?