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Re: OATH playing cards MYSTERY deck (wap)
I know this will be well worth it. If would be career suicide of it were to actually be a cheap deck.
Feeding the addiction one deck at a time.
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Re: OATH playing cards MYSTERY deck
I very irresponsibly ordered one (I'll have to cash out some crypto lol) before the clock even hit 5, Sanctus is my favourite Lotrek deck, and Liturgy was already fit for royalty, now here he is saying THIS is the deck for Kings and Queens. Well, I'm not sure what to expect, can he really pull off something even more luxuriously royal? Did he find a way to make the card stock all foil with ink printed on top and more foil? Haha. I'd like to see this become a yearly tradition, except next time give us a real test of faith, we don't know what we're getting until it arrives at the doorstep
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Re: OATH playing cards MYSTERY deck
If it's close to it or even better, it'll be worth $100 to get another one.Bradius wrote:If it even comes close to approaching the Golden Oath deck, it is worth every penny of $85.
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Re: OATH playing cards MYSTERY deck
It will be tight, but I'll JUUUUUUUUUUUST scrape in for the EB price as I get paid a day earlier this week [one-off thing]. I'm in.
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Re: OATH playing cards MYSTERY deck
Ahem, that's the idea.Adonael wrote: I'd like to see this become a yearly tradition, except next time give us a real test of faith, we don't know what we're getting until it arrives at the doorstep
But let's see if you like the surprise first...
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Re: OATH playing cards MYSTERY deck
It could be a poop in the box and they will sell, but I have no idea what exactly it is this time.
I am quite sure that it is worth every penny of the $100 it will cost once revealed!
I am quite sure that it is worth every penny of the $100 it will cost once revealed!
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Re: OATH playing cards MYSTERY deck
Deck ordered!
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I dream of a world where wars are fought only by having dance offs. I also dream that a Finnish playing card designer would exist. The former seems more likely to happend.
Money can't buy you happiness, but it can buy you a penguin. Have you ever met a sad person with a penguin?
Are lobsters mermaids to scorpions?
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Re: OATH playing cards MYSTERY deck
Glad I don't need to show you what I'm selling!
I can't wait to start revealing though...
I can't wait to start revealing though...
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That's what she said! Ha! No?Lotrek wrote:Glad I don't need to show you what I'm selling!
I can't wait to start revealing though...
Left my heart in SIERRA MADRE
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I dream of a world where wars are fought only by having dance offs. I also dream that a Finnish playing card designer would exist. The former seems more likely to happend.
Money can't buy you happiness, but it can buy you a penguin. Have you ever met a sad person with a penguin?
Are lobsters mermaids to scorpions?
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"Finding it... that's not the hard part. It's letting go."
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I dream of a world where wars are fought only by having dance offs. I also dream that a Finnish playing card designer would exist. The former seems more likely to happend.
Money can't buy you happiness, but it can buy you a penguin. Have you ever met a sad person with a penguin?
Are lobsters mermaids to scorpions?
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Re: OATH playing cards MYSTERY deck
hummm, maybe Mike can explain this then....!Mike Ratledge wrote:I have no idea what exactly it is this time.
Shouldn't have all payments been made to Lotrek in Euro's to his Half Moon Playing Cards account as all my previous orders have or is this just another loop hole to avoid exchange rates??
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Ordered as well. That's the best justification I'll ever be able to give to my bank for being broke: "But I'm telling you! It's not me, it's all Lotrek's fault!"
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Well, the mystery decks are still available. I did notice that the grey Ambassador Collectors deck is now sold out.
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Re: OATH playing cards MYSTERY deck
I set up the account for Oath Playing Cards at Wells Fargo (yes, here in the US) several months ago without thinking about the fact that PayPal is really touchy about letting you change the name associated with the account. I can't log into it, but it's got my name on it, and probably will for the foreseable future, although I think Lotrek managed to get my cell # out of there so it doesn't send me the request to validate logins any more.Cardician_82 wrote:hummm, maybe Mike can explain this then....!Mike Ratledge wrote:I have no idea what exactly it is this time.
Shouldn't have all payments been made to Lotrek in Euro's to his Half Moon Playing Cards account as all my previous orders have or is this just another loop hole to avoid exchange rates??
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They say "Ignorance is bliss". Obviously, some people are much happier than others...
Members are encouraged to
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Well, Mike, you know no good deed goes unpunished. The beatings will continue until morale improves.
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@ Cardician_82: Mike indeed has no idea about the deck. That's part of the fun...
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Re: OATH playing cards MYSTERY deck
If it's fit for Kings & Queens it better have 24K gold leaf, pure silver leaf, and powdered red gems instead of foils. Pure platinum edges in a lambskin covered tuck with textured embossing/debossing and more gold and silver leaf on the tuck. Carbon fiber stock that feels and handles like paper.
I can hope for the stars right?
I can hope for the stars right?
Move on, nothing to see here.
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Well, it's actually goatskin.RichK wrote:If it's fit for Kings & Queens it better have 24K gold leaf, pure silver leaf, and powdered red gems instead of foils. Pure platinum edges in a lambskin covered tuck with textured embossing/debossing and more gold and silver leaf on the tuck. Carbon fiber stock that feels and handles like paper.
I can hope for the stars right?
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Re: OATH playing cards MYSTERY deck (wap)
Hey,
Do we get rewarded in some kind of way if we buy it as a mystery? (Despite the fact of paying it less!) Such as low number seals if it is limited or smth similar. It would be fun!
Thanks Lotrek, always in for your artworks
Do we get rewarded in some kind of way if we buy it as a mystery? (Despite the fact of paying it less!) Such as low number seals if it is limited or smth similar. It would be fun!
Thanks Lotrek, always in for your artworks
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Re: OATH playing cards MYSTERY deck (wap)
As far as I'm aware Lotrek always tends to ship deck numbers on a first come first served basis, therefore early backers always get the lowest numbers.Leo_100 wrote:Hey,
Do we get rewarded in some kind of way if we buy it as a mystery? (Despite the fact of paying it less!) Such as low number seals if it is limited or smth similar. It would be fun!
Thanks Lotrek, always in for your artworks
The only time this doesn't necessarily work is when the decks are being shipped from a fulfilment centre (as might be the case for the upcoming Ambassadors standard edition).
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I don't care if I end up paying full price for these, Alex Chin's decks are worth it.
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Alex Chin's decks are definitely worth every penny, but I thought we were talking about Lotrek's deck, which are always worth every penny, too.portcullis wrote:I don't care if I end up paying full price for these, Alex Chin's decks are worth it.
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Re: OATH playing cards MYSTERY deck
Logged in here for the first time in a while after getting the email and immediately picking one of these up. Couldn't be more excited by the whole prospect. Almost sad there is going to be a reveal, there would be so much excitement in not knowing until they were delivered. It's awesome to see so much faith from the community in Lotrek, and I am stoked I get to put my money where my mouth is on the sight unseen boast.
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Re: OATH playing cards MYSTERY deck
The deck is still on sale, what makes me curious about some things.
Obviously this deck isn't that limited as some others, and i guess not printed at this time.
OR that Mystery deck sale isn't going as good as expected ? Who knows
I hope everything turns out well till February 28th. Good Luck
Obviously this deck isn't that limited as some others, and i guess not printed at this time.
OR that Mystery deck sale isn't going as good as expected ? Who knows
I hope everything turns out well till February 28th. Good Luck
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There is a good chance that the deck hasn't been printed yet.Azid wrote:The deck is still on sale, what makes me curious about some things.
Obviously this deck isn't that limited as some others, and i guess not printed at this time.
OR that Mystery deck sale isn't going as good as expected ? Who knows
I hope everything turns out well till February 28th. Good Luck
There doesn't appear to be a limit on how many you can order as there are with other decks.
However it's also possible sales are not going so well.
$85 is quite high for a deck which may rule a lot of people out, or perhaps some people are waiting for more details to be revealed thinking that an extra $10-15 isn't that much of a difference.
I recently looked through the messages posted here and if each member who has commented bought an average of 2 decks there were only about 40 sold.
Guess we'll have to wait & see.
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Well, part of the trick here is that you are not going to be able to get any clues on what exactly it is until the reveal - in three partial stages.
I can give one clue (a few people have asked why it says you paid me): without even answering that question, I can tell you that sales are certainly not bad, far from it.
I can give one clue (a few people have asked why it says you paid me): without even answering that question, I can tell you that sales are certainly not bad, far from it.
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They say "Ignorance is bliss". Obviously, some people are much happier than others...
Members are encouraged to
Show Us Your Cards!
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Our UC2021 Decks entitled
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by Lorenzo Gaggiotti / @Stockholm17
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UC members help maintain Portfolio52
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Re: OATH playing cards MYSTERY deck
I started off with 2 but it depends on the reveals to if I'll buy more.
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