Virtuoso FW17 (Fall/Winter), 19 December

[Myv]

That yellow fontaine, yuck...

[vasta41]

Most likely true... This color is actually my favorite so far so I got a couple decks ... Looks like the launch is delayed for a few days for now

Time to buy more server space Just like E after the Red LTD release and Lee Asher about 9 years ago during his annual/semi-annual J-Nug sales.

[shermjack]

Unlike the Fontaine's I think after the 1st deck this series lost sizzle. I think the Fontaine's might be heading in that direction too. And by sizzle I mean aftermarket resale value.

I don't know...The first three are still increasing in value in the after market, though last year's deck wasn't as well received and the price reflects that. I personally think that this year's deck will fair off better than last year and will increase in value in the coming years.

On the other hand, I think that the Fontaines have hit their peak and from now on, the new releases will not command as high as a price as the first three or four...the after market value of all the decks after the Pink version has been around 30-40 without much movement. Due to the almost simultaneous releases, I think that Zach has over diluted his brand.

[shaitani]

It's hard to say with Fontaines, ZM pumped out 4 decks this year (sleight, green, carrots, chinatown)
While it's the cardists that drive the price on these, it's hard to gauge the overall hype for them.

But I will say that this might be my favorite deck of his oddly, I didn't get a strong look at them when I went to the Pop up event, but the card faces appeared to possibly be custom.
The indices and the lines of the fontaine Fs, etc, have a wavy hand drawn quality to them. Even the courts appeared to be different than normal, but we'll need court experts to tell me just how different. I think it's purposely trying to look like a "chinatown knockoff" product which is the whole Chinatown Market brand theme. So it isn't just another recolor like the majority of the fontaines.

[qua2k]

has anyone received the re-launch e-mail? seems each e-mail received has the wrong ETA on it...

[hikeeba]

Came in at 11am EST. No problem ordering.

[qua2k]

Came in at 11am EST. No problem ordering.

interesting.. i got the e-mail yesterday saying in 26 hours but nothing this morning, checked spam folders everything....

-edit- just went to the site and ordered that way, no problems either.

[alric]

I think the Virts printed 50,000 of these decks. If that's actually the case, these will be available for a while and I don't think these will shoot up on price like the earlier editions. Buy these to appreciate cardistry, not to resell later for big profits.

[badpete69]

My decks came in a few days ago so shipping was fairly fast... Well packaged also. Thumbs up

[DelMagic]

Available with a discount here:

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S24307" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[vasta41]

So per the latest update: "Art of Play has informed us that it will take them approximately 4-6 weeks to finish shipping the remaining orders...and that Art of Play is already working as quickly as they possibly can." I'm not usually one to complain about shipping time but I hate when people lie to blatantly cover up laziness or worse, incompetence. IT DOES NOT TAKE 8 WEEKS TO SHIP LESS THAN 2,500 PLAYING CARDS. I'm assuming they sold a lot less than that but the point remains that they are 100% not working "as fast as they can" if it's taking them 8 weeks to ship a few thousand decks (2 weeks have passed plus the 6 weeks-from-now projection). My 92 year old arthritis-ridden grandfather could pack and ship decks quicker than that.
Again, I don't care how long these take to come in (unless it gets to be Mana status...) but I HATE how they're lying. And by "they" I don't mean the Virts, I mean the effing Bucks. What is really going on here? Something surly is because this timeline is ASININE.

[RichK]

Vasta,

Did you check your spam folder? I too was angry about the slow pack + ship but in my spam was my tracking number.

I still think it's b.s. to take that long unless they gave away and sold 25,000 or so, not 2500.

[kulidone]

So per the latest update: "Art of Play has informed us that it will take them approximately 4-6 weeks to finish shipping the remaining orders...and that Art of Play is already working as quickly as they possibly can." I'm not usually one to complain about shipping time but I hate when people lie to blatantly cover up laziness or worse, incompetence. IT DOES NOT TAKE 8 WEEKS TO SHIP LESS THAN 2,500 PLAYING CARDS. I'm assuming they sold a lot less than that but the point remains that they are 100% not working "as fast as they can" if it's taking them 8 weeks to ship a few thousand decks (2 weeks have passed plus the 6 weeks-from-now projection). My 92 year old arthritis-ridden grandfather could pack and ship decks quicker than that.
Again, I don't care how long these take to come in (unless it gets to be Mana status...) but I HATE how they're lying. And by "they" I don't mean the Virts, I mean the effing Bucks. What is really going on here? Something surly is because this timeline is ASININE.

I really dont think they sold just 2500 playing cards I mean its Virtuoso after all and they were giving a free deck to everyone worldwide. Besides Art of Play are maybe shipping currently other decks for example Fontaines etc, but 6-8 weeks its too much.

[qua2k]

still no deck and no tracking has been sent

[phantom1412]

still no deck and no tracking has been sent

I got my tracking number but it stucked in the same place for 11 days and no update till now.

[Pablo393]

I was pleasantly surprised to receive a tracking number and then my decks arrived soon after. I hope yours arrive soon.

[Decknowledgy]

FYI, The Virts have been massively advertising the end of this "Phase 1" as they call it with several giveaways on their Instagram, and literally giving away free Virtuoso FW17s on their site, charging only shipping for one deck. There are also several deals and cardistry tutorials on sale on their site

Info on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/thevirts/
Official site: https://www.thevirts.com/fw17/

The sale just dropped two hours ago, although I think you have to sign before the release to get a free deck? (Not sure if it works now)

[JacksandJokers]

The sale just dropped two hours ago, although I think you have to sign before the release to get a free deck? (Not sure if it works now)

Appears to be working still, I just ordered 1.
$6 shipping to the US or $14 to the UK

[Outsider]

Thanks for the heads up, for $6 shipped who could resist?

PS - I have never used the site before and obviously never signed in, I had zero issues getting the free deck.