Virtuoso FW17 (Fall/Winter), 19 December

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Re: Virtuoso FW17 (Fall/Winter), 19 December

Unread postby Myv » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:03 am  

That yellow fontaine, yuck...
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Re: Virtuoso FW17 (Fall/Winter), 19 December

Unread postby vasta41 » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:07 am  

badpete69 wrote:Most likely true... This color is actually my favorite so far so I got a couple decks ... Looks like the launch is delayed for a few days for now


Time to buy more server space :lol: Just like E after the Red LTD release and Lee Asher about 9 years ago during his annual/semi-annual J-Nug sales.
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Re: Virtuoso FW17 (Fall/Winter), 19 December

Unread postby shermjack » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:08 am  

vasta41 wrote:Unlike the Fontaine's I think after the 1st deck this series lost sizzle. I think the Fontaine's might be heading in that direction too. And by sizzle I mean aftermarket resale value.


I don't know...The first three are still increasing in value in the after market, though last year's deck wasn't as well received and the price reflects that. I personally think that this year's deck will fair off better than last year and will increase in value in the coming years.

On the other hand, I think that the Fontaines have hit their peak and from now on, the new releases will not command as high as a price as the first three or four...the after market value of all the decks after the Pink version has been around 30-40 without much movement. Due to the almost simultaneous releases, I think that Zach has over diluted his brand. ;)
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Re: Virtuoso FW17 (Fall/Winter), 19 December

Unread postby shaitani » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:20 pm  

It's hard to say with Fontaines, ZM pumped out 4 decks this year (sleight, green, carrots, chinatown)
While it's the cardists that drive the price on these, it's hard to gauge the overall hype for them.

But I will say that this might be my favorite deck of his oddly, I didn't get a strong look at them when I went to the Pop up event, but the card faces appeared to possibly be custom.
The indices and the lines of the fontaine Fs, etc, have a wavy hand drawn quality to them. Even the courts appeared to be different than normal, but we'll need court experts to tell me just how different. I think it's purposely trying to look like a "chinatown knockoff" product which is the whole Chinatown Market brand theme. So it isn't just another recolor like the majority of the fontaines.
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Re: Virtuoso FW17 (Fall/Winter), 19 December

Unread postby qua2k » Tue Dec 26, 2017 1:27 pm  

has anyone received the re-launch e-mail? seems each e-mail received has the wrong ETA on it...
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Re: Virtuoso FW17 (Fall/Winter), 19 December

Unread postby hikeeba » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:20 pm  

Came in at 11am EST. No problem ordering.
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Re: Virtuoso FW17 (Fall/Winter), 19 December

Unread postby qua2k » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:30 pm  

hikeeba wrote:Came in at 11am EST. No problem ordering.


interesting.. i got the e-mail yesterday saying in 26 hours but nothing this morning, checked spam folders everything.... :?

-edit- just went to the site and ordered that way, no problems either.
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Re: Virtuoso FW17 (Fall/Winter), 19 December

Unread postby alric » Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:49 pm  

I think the Virts printed 50,000 of these decks. If that's actually the case, these will be available for a while and I don't think these will shoot up on price like the earlier editions. Buy these to appreciate cardistry, not to resell later for big profits.
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Re: Virtuoso FW17 (Fall/Winter), 19 December

Unread postby badpete69 » Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:26 pm  

My decks came in a few days ago so shipping was fairly fast... Well packaged also. Thumbs up
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Re: Virtuoso FW17 (Fall/Winter), 19 December

Unread postby DelMagic » Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:02 pm  

Available with a discount here:

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S24307
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Re: Virtuoso FW17 (Fall/Winter), 19 December

Unread postby vasta41 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:17 am  

So per the latest update: "Art of Play has informed us that it will take them approximately 4-6 weeks to finish shipping the remaining orders...and that Art of Play is already working as quickly as they possibly can." I'm not usually one to complain about shipping time but I hate when people lie to blatantly cover up laziness or worse, incompetence. IT DOES NOT TAKE 8 WEEKS TO SHIP LESS THAN 2,500 PLAYING CARDS. I'm assuming they sold a lot less than that but the point remains that they are 100% not working "as fast as they can" if it's taking them 8 weeks to ship a few thousand decks (2 weeks have passed plus the 6 weeks-from-now projection). My 92 year old arthritis-ridden grandfather could pack and ship decks quicker than that.
Again, I don't care how long these take to come in (unless it gets to be Mana status...) but I HATE how they're lying. And by "they" I don't mean the Virts, I mean the effing Bucks. What is really going on here? Something surly is because this timeline is ASININE.
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Re: Virtuoso FW17 (Fall/Winter), 19 December

Unread postby RichK » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:51 am  

Vasta,

Did you check your spam folder? I too was angry about the slow pack + ship but in my spam was my tracking number.

I still think it's b.s. to take that long unless they gave away and sold 25,000 or so, not 2500.
Move on, nothing to see here.
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Re: Virtuoso FW17 (Fall/Winter), 19 December

Unread postby kulidone » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:56 am  

vasta41 wrote:So per the latest update: "Art of Play has informed us that it will take them approximately 4-6 weeks to finish shipping the remaining orders...and that Art of Play is already working as quickly as they possibly can." I'm not usually one to complain about shipping time but I hate when people lie to blatantly cover up laziness or worse, incompetence. IT DOES NOT TAKE 8 WEEKS TO SHIP LESS THAN 2,500 PLAYING CARDS. I'm assuming they sold a lot less than that but the point remains that they are 100% not working "as fast as they can" if it's taking them 8 weeks to ship a few thousand decks (2 weeks have passed plus the 6 weeks-from-now projection). My 92 year old arthritis-ridden grandfather could pack and ship decks quicker than that.
Again, I don't care how long these take to come in (unless it gets to be Mana status...) but I HATE how they're lying. And by "they" I don't mean the Virts, I mean the effing Bucks. What is really going on here? Something surly is because this timeline is ASININE.



I really dont think they sold just 2500 playing cards I mean its Virtuoso after all and they were giving a free deck to everyone worldwide. Besides Art of Play are maybe shipping currently other decks for example Fontaines etc, but 6-8 weeks its too much.
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