Dragon Back Poker Cards - Gold Ltd Run of 500: Live on KS

Find out about the latest and greatest playing cards hitting the market.
User avatar
flashcards
Member
Member
Posts: 728
Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:02 pm
Cardist: Yes
Collector: Yes
Decks Owned: 600
Location: Corvallis, Oregon
Has thanked: 192 times
Been thanked: 185 times
Contact:

Dragon Back Poker Cards - Gold Ltd Run of 500: Live on KS

Unread post by flashcards »


Image
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
sms69x
Member
Member
Posts: 1099
Joined: Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:24 pm
Collector: Yes
Magician: Yes
Decks Owned: 700
Location: Portugal
Has thanked: 89 times
Been thanked: 308 times

Re: Dragon Back Poker Cards - Gold Ltd Run of 500: Live on K

Unread post by sms69x »

This one looks really good! I like it very much, only the back is a bit meh.... But, £17 for one MPC deck??!! Hell not...
User avatar
theCapraAegagrus
Member
Member
Posts: 5486
Joined: Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:28 pm
Has thanked: 514 times
Been thanked: 1067 times

Re: Dragon Back Poker Cards - Gold Ltd Run of 500: Live on K

Unread post by theCapraAegagrus »

That KoS artwork is just awful. So are the aces. Other than that; the faces are not bad.

The back design would honestly be great if it didn't have that vomit-inducing giant white border.
rousselle wrote:You are a fussy, picky guy.
Lotrek wrote:Given the number of morons produced in the world every day, a pessimist is actually a well informed realist.
Räpylätassu wrote:"Tyhmyydestä sakotetaan." You get fined for being stupid.
♥ ♦ Portfolio 52 Pro ♣ ♠
User avatar
Cbkimble
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 2325
Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:16 am
Collector: Yes
Player: Yes
Decks Owned: 363
Has thanked: 115 times
Been thanked: 250 times

Re: Dragon Back Poker Cards - Gold Ltd Run of 500: Live on K

Unread post by Cbkimble »

The courts look really good. Other than that, everything else is bland by comparison. The tuck has far too much empty space.
Feeding the addiction one deck at a time.
Albendon
Member
Member
Posts: 30
Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:54 pm
Has thanked: 15 times
Been thanked: 12 times

Re: Dragon Back Poker Cards - Gold Ltd Run of 500: Live on K

Unread post by Albendon »

Good evening!

Thank you so much for your feedback on my deck, and I think I need it...!

OK, the back. I must confess I was torn with this but I'm not a great back artist. You mention the white boarder - I can change that easy. Do you think Gold, Black or pattern?

KoS - Yeah, not my best. Was trying to match it too close to the actual character. again, I can draw a new one.

Box - Torn between too much on it and too little! Some of my favourite tucks have been really basic, I have time to add more detail though.

Price - My 'problem' (not my favourite word) was getting to minimum order levels, and the postage price is Gamblers Warehouse fees +10% (Kickstarter) and currency conversion. I've based the price on 50 decks with all the whistles, plus a little extra to replace damaged decks etc.

Happy to be constructively flamed, wish I had come here before launching!

Ben
User avatar
sinjin7
Member
Member
Posts: 1485
Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:17 pm
Cardist: Yes
Collector: Yes
Player: Yes
Decks Owned: 1500
Location: California
Has thanked: 755 times
Been thanked: 985 times

Re: Dragon Back Poker Cards - Gold Ltd Run of 500: Live on K

Unread post by sinjin7 »

The problem with the back border is not so much the color, but that it is so wide. I would suggest making the border much thinner. Plus, I would make it black to match the face of the cards as well. I understand you're limited with the number of decks you can print, but I would suggest you check with EPCC/LPCC for prices on a 1000 deck print run. Theoretically, EPCC/LPCC is supposed to be more economical than USPCC for lower print quantities. I would stay away from MPC or NPCC. Sure, they can print lower print runs and are cheaper, but if you are able to make improvements to your deck, a successful KS campaign can cover your costs for a higher print run. If you don't fund with the higher funding goal to cover a better printer, then you can always re-launch with MPC. But I would rather have a failed KS campaign with a good printer than a successful KS campaign with a crappy printer that can't produce a quality product.
User avatar
theCapraAegagrus
Member
Member
Posts: 5486
Joined: Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:28 pm
Has thanked: 514 times
Been thanked: 1067 times

Re: Dragon Back Poker Cards - Gold Ltd Run of 500: Live on K

Unread post by theCapraAegagrus »

Albendon wrote:Good evening!

Thank you so much for your feedback on my deck, and I think I need it...!

OK, the back. I must confess I was torn with this but I'm not a great back artist. You mention the white boarder - I can change that easy. Do you think Gold, Black or pattern?

KoS - Yeah, not my best. Was trying to match it too close to the actual character. again, I can draw a new one.

Box - Torn between too much on it and too little! Some of my favourite tucks have been really basic, I have time to add more detail though.

Price - My 'problem' (not my favourite word) was getting to minimum order levels, and the postage price is Gamblers Warehouse fees +10% (Kickstarter) and currency conversion. I've based the price on 50 decks with all the whistles, plus a little extra to replace damaged decks etc.

Happy to be constructively flamed, wish I had come here before launching!

Ben
Personally I'd like to see a mock-up of the golden scales back design full-bleed to the edges. Maybe that'd be too similar to Draconian? I'd prefer to see this printed with EPCC because of their superior registration (whether full-bleed or thin-bordered).
rousselle wrote:You are a fussy, picky guy.
Lotrek wrote:Given the number of morons produced in the world every day, a pessimist is actually a well informed realist.
Räpylätassu wrote:"Tyhmyydestä sakotetaan." You get fined for being stupid.
♥ ♦ Portfolio 52 Pro ♣ ♠
Albendon
Member
Member
Posts: 30
Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:54 pm
Has thanked: 15 times
Been thanked: 12 times

Re: Dragon Back Poker Cards - Gold Ltd Run of 500: Live on K

Unread post by Albendon »

Hi Two Piece, how's this: (Quick Draft Concept)
Dark-Back-5-GOLD.png
Dark-Back-7-GOLD.png
User avatar
sms69x
Member
Member
Posts: 1099
Joined: Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:24 pm
Collector: Yes
Magician: Yes
Decks Owned: 700
Location: Portugal
Has thanked: 89 times
Been thanked: 308 times

Re: Dragon Back Poker Cards - Gold Ltd Run of 500: Live on K

Unread post by sms69x »

This is a great improvement! I like both designs, but if you choose to go with the black bordered then try to match the black with the black color on the faces.
User avatar
theCapraAegagrus
Member
Member
Posts: 5486
Joined: Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:28 pm
Has thanked: 514 times
Been thanked: 1067 times

Re: Dragon Back Poker Cards - Gold Ltd Run of 500: Live on K

Unread post by theCapraAegagrus »

Albendon wrote:Hi Two Piece, how's this: (Quick Draft Concept)
Dark-Back-5-GOLD.png
Dark-Back-7-GOLD.png
Yep, that border-less design looks really good. The line separating the two halves seems out of place, though. Is there a way to blend the halves together (without looking weird)? I'm not huge on tucks. I mean, don't get me wrong, I love a beautiful tuck case, but my focus is on the cards.
rousselle wrote:You are a fussy, picky guy.
Lotrek wrote:Given the number of morons produced in the world every day, a pessimist is actually a well informed realist.
Räpylätassu wrote:"Tyhmyydestä sakotetaan." You get fined for being stupid.
♥ ♦ Portfolio 52 Pro ♣ ♠
Albendon
Member
Member
Posts: 30
Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:54 pm
Has thanked: 15 times
Been thanked: 12 times

Re: Dragon Back Poker Cards - Gold Ltd Run of 500: Live on K

Unread post by Albendon »

I can look at interlinking some scales - there goes this evening!
Albendon
Member
Member
Posts: 30
Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:54 pm
Has thanked: 15 times
Been thanked: 12 times

Re: Dragon Back Poker Cards - Gold Ltd Run of 500: Live on K

Unread post by Albendon »

Hi all,

The scales didn't work. Looked into blending the colours more on the divider and it looks a lot better.

Just on the Aces, a few comments so I'm experimenting with a variation - any thoughts please?! (these are draft - not final)
Ace-Hearts-Dragon-GOLD-Flat.png
Ace-Spades-GOLD-Flat.png
Ace-Spades-GOLD-Plus.png
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Disenchanted_11, Evilgamer, HFMJ, KGthePrince, manu, shkorc, vasta41 and 74 guests