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I am trying to learn Cardistry and was feeling confused about which deck to pick. Neo made the decision easy for me.
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Nice 1 Sunish .... !
I doubled you brother ....
I got 11.
NEO by Montenzi.
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Best Borderless .... ***
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*discounting the cruise connection meh.
**WOW
***HONK ! right next to Randy's DracoBrimstones !
I doubled you brother ....
I got 11.
NEO by Montenzi.
Top title .... *
Top design .... **
Best Borderless .... ***
Most Worthy of that Nexus .... !
*discounting the cruise connection meh.
**WOW
***HONK ! right next to Randy's DracoBrimstones !
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thanks a lot)))
Sorry for the delay...woke up at 9:01AM NZST ... 3 of 4 alarms were set to 08:25, 08:30, 08:35 ... ignored Then 4th "last chance" 09AM alarm on my wife's phone made my morning... had two minutes to turn on my computers and launch the campaign. Finally. lol
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Creator's comments about the new stock from his printer has piqued my interest too. Always on lookout for decks with a new stock and finish.
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I hope Fanny will not kill me)) I have just deleted my reply on why this paper is special. I'll ask Fanny first as I don''t think they want to share this information.guru wrote:Creator's comments about the new stock from his printer has piqued my interest too. Always on lookout for decks with a new stock and finish.
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Too late !
Th'guru is onto it.
Th'guru is onto it.
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Oh this made me laugh - only because I'm a night owl and also highly capable of sleeping through loud alarms I so get the flurried panic you started your day with All's well that ends well though! - and I'm glad to be on board your campaignmontenzi wrote: Sorry for the delay...woke up at 9:01AM NZST ... 3 of 4 alarms were set to 08:25, 08:30, 08:35 ... ignored Then 4th "last chance" 09AM alarm on my wife's phone made my morning... had two minutes to turn on my computers and launch the campaign. Finally. lol
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10AM is ok for me but 08:30 is nono)) Thanks)NineLives wrote:Oh this made me laugh - only because I'm a night owl and also highly capable of sleeping through loud alarms I so get the flurried panic you started your day with All's well that ends well though! - and I'm glad to be on board your campaign
@Bruno, @guru,
Well... Why this paper is different? They bought wrong paper... Wrong stiffness (softer) and ... smooth. Nobody there prints on such soft and smooth paper. Right? They create a linen texture on top in order to sell... Pure business but the end result is incredible. "Crushed" stock? This paper is a little softer that Bee. I like it so much! That's it.
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You're right. Randy is the one creator who always comes up with some of the best card back designs.....Bruno wrote: ***HONK ! right next to Randy's DracoBrimstones !
Montenzi wrote: They bought wrong paper... Wrong stiffness (softer) and ... smooth.
Your comment made me remember a quote that most of the great inventions were the result of a mistake or accidental innovation. I sincerely wish that this new stock comes to be as great as you are saying it to be. This and Cartamundi's 9C2 finish etc. is good for the Playing Card industry. It will make everyone not to be complacent due to the past laurels and strive to be more innovative.
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In for 2 unlimited EB's. I love the design of this deck. That and the USPCC printing and great price make this a no-brainer for me. Thanks for making it so easy. Best of luck on the campaign.
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You're talking about using a smooth finish?
So... For what it's worth, I'm really not a fan of the smooth textured cards. I have yet to find a deck where the smooth works out well. Textured (such as the linen finishes) cards slide better on the card table, and also slide better against other cards for fanning purposes.
I love the idea of playing with the stock stiffness / suppleness / density / thickness. I love the idea of experimenting with the coating. But, when it comes to texture, smooth (counter intuitively) does not make for good slipperiness.
So... For what it's worth, I'm really not a fan of the smooth textured cards. I have yet to find a deck where the smooth works out well. Textured (such as the linen finishes) cards slide better on the card table, and also slide better against other cards for fanning purposes.
I love the idea of playing with the stock stiffness / suppleness / density / thickness. I love the idea of experimenting with the coating. But, when it comes to texture, smooth (counter intuitively) does not make for good slipperiness.
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I agree with you about the smoothness and so would most professional soccer players. In 2010 the Jabulani ball was created for the FIFA World Cup and it's "skin" was nearly a flawless sphere, which you would think would be ideal (similar to a smooth playing card finish). But on the contrary- when there is less surface roughness, the ball doesn't travel as easily or as far. Players criticized it for it's terrible flight paths and unpredictability. So in 2014 when the Brazuca was made they added more "irregularities" on the surface (similar to dimples on a golf ball) which lead to better ball movement and more player praise. Here's a graph to show the difference between distributed sideways forces:rousselle wrote:You're talking about using a smooth finish?
So... For what it's worth, I'm really not a fan of the smooth textured cards. I have yet to find a deck where the smooth works out well. Textured (such as the linen finishes) cards slide better on the card table, and also slide better against other cards for fanning purposes.
I love the idea of playing with the stock stiffness / suppleness / density / thickness. I love the idea of experimenting with the coating. But, when it comes to texture, smooth (counter intuitively) does not make for good slipperiness.
And there entire article is here: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/ ... e18906534/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
In summation, Alan is right and there's science to prove it
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No. It's just a smooth paper with post-processing. They create a texture. If you know the Diamon finish - almost no texture and smooth. But this one is in the middle (Diamond vs Classic).rousselle wrote:You're talking about using a smooth finish?
So... For what it's worth, I'm really not a fan of the smooth textured cards. I have yet to find a deck where the smooth works out well. Textured (such as the linen finishes) cards slide better on the card table, and also slide better against other cards for fanning purposes.
I love the idea of playing with the stock stiffness / suppleness / density / thickness. I love the idea of experimenting with the coating. But, when it comes to texture, smooth (counter intuitively) does not make for good slipperiness.
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Top - Classic. Left - Diamond. Right - New (White Diamond).
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Hello Tiki (310gsm Classic, German paper) vs New White Diamond
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Phew! Okay, then. Excellent. Thanks for putting my mind at ease! And, thanks for the photos, that helps a lot with understanding what you're describing. I very much like what I see.montenzi wrote:No. It's just a smooth paper with post-processing. They create a texture. If you know the Diamon finish - almost no texture and smooth. But this one is in the middle (Diamond vs Classic).rousselle wrote:You're talking about using a smooth finish?
So... For what it's worth, I'm really not a fan of the smooth textured cards. I have yet to find a deck where the smooth works out well. Textured (such as the linen finishes) cards slide better on the card table, and also slide better against other cards for fanning purposes.
I love the idea of playing with the stock stiffness / suppleness / density / thickness. I love the idea of experimenting with the coating. But, when it comes to texture, smooth (counter intuitively) does not make for good slipperiness.
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Agreed, the photos are very informative, thanks for those
And Paul, nice research!
And Paul, nice research!
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Thanks Allan for asking the question and Alex for the pictures which made things very clear. What I have seen is that the varnish or coating is also a very important factor and if you look around, you will find that almost every printer has a finish named linen available with them but it still doesn't match Bicycle's Air Cushion finish. Post processing after the dimpled pattern on the cards is what makes or breaks the handling.
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There are carrots ..... and then there is ....
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$2.... lol
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O, I beg of you your comprehensions,
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But Lèse-majesté, especially >Normans, natch.
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Officially, Bruno is responsible for ... $3 overfundingBruno wrote:
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Last 48 hours!!! 299 backers, 120% funded
Working with printers, all artwork is ready to go.
Working with printers, all artwork is ready to go.
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Congratulations! This has been a really nice project. I am happy being part of it.
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max wrote:Congratulations! This has been a really nice project. I am happy being part of it.
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Hi! Have some good news:
NEO decks are finished and delivered to GW.
NEO LTD decks will be finished soon.
Two NEO LTD videos in the last Kickstarter update: ...foil
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mo ... ts/2025992
NEO decks are finished and delivered to GW.
NEO LTD decks will be finished soon.
Two NEO LTD videos in the last Kickstarter update: ...foil
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mo ... ts/2025992
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That tuck looks really sick.... Awesome job... Congrats on getting this as well as working successfully with two different printers for one project.montenzi wrote:Hi! Have some good news:
NEO decks are finished and delivered to GW.
NEO LTD decks will be finished soon.
Two NEO LTD videos in the last Kickstarter update: ...foil
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mo ... ts/2025992
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Thanks for the update Alex, the tuck videos look awesome (shiny shiny ) looking forward to the real thing!
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