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Version 2 Beta soft launches this week

Unread postby ecNate » Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:56 am  

In case you missed the Facebook post yesterday. There's a number of great new features that have been in the works for a while included here. The newsletter mentioned is the one found at the bottom of the current P52 site.

Version 2 Beta soft launches this week. An e-mail will be sent out to our newsletter when migration to the new site will occur. It'll be a timed night migration to minimize inconvenience. Not going to lie, after all the delays on this thing I thought it would never breathe again. We are so excited to see this go into the world.
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Re: Version 2 Beta soft launches this week

Unread postby tonyricciardi » Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:01 pm  

I'm sure I speak for many others. I've been waiting for this day for a long time!
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Re: Version 2 Beta soft launches this week

Unread postby IAmTheChin » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:27 am  

Nothing blew up.

I. am. so. happy. :D

There's some last minute changes still shifting and I'm trying to migrate the old points to the new point system. But other than that it seems to work well. Filter will take some time to start spitting out the results I'm looking for but over time with contributions the filter will get better. Going to try to make the Learn section a bit more visually informative as well but just trying to let this thing go without training wheels to see if it'll ride.

*popping a hypothetical bottle of champagne*. Now to get back to working on the Kickstarter. It's a busy 2 weeks...
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Re: Version 2 Beta soft launches this week

Unread postby flashcards » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:01 am  

I'm unable to log in. It wants my email address rather than my alias. The password is the same for both but it won't accept it. Do I need to register again? I don't want to lose my collection.
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Re: Version 2 Beta soft launches this week

Unread postby 4.of.Clubs » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:57 am  

flashcards wrote:I'm unable to log in. It wants my email address rather than my alias. The password is the same for both but it won't accept it. Do I need to register again? I don't want to lose my collection.


Click on "Forgot my password" and you can reset it.


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Re: Version 2 Beta soft launches this week

Unread postby 4.of.Clubs » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:59 am  

IAmTheChin wrote:Nothing blew up.

I. am. so. happy. :D

There's some last minute changes still shifting and I'm trying to migrate the old points to the new point system. But other than that it seems to work well. Filter will take some time to start spitting out the results I'm looking for but over time with contributions the filter will get better. Going to try to make the Learn section a bit more visually informative as well but just trying to let this thing go without training wheels to see if it'll ride.

*popping a hypothetical bottle of champagne*. Now to get back to working on the Kickstarter. It's a busy 2 weeks...


Thanks for all the work Alex!

I did notice my collection count went down about 8 decks and I haven't changed the collection in a few weeks. Haven't yet figured out which decks went missing though. What cut of the data was converted over?

Also, it seems that the old "order" for custom ordering was lost, is there a way to restore that?


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Re: Version 2 Beta soft launches this week

Unread postby flashcards » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:26 pm  

D'uh. Thanks 4.of.Clubs. That took care of it. Wasn't thinking. :ugthink:
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Re: Version 2 Beta soft launches this week

Unread postby ecNate » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:21 pm  

FYI - All users will probably have to reset their passwords if you don't use the Facebook option since they apparently properly stored passwords encrypted so there was not a way to migrate those. Also all contributors should have edit access without needing to have their submissions approved so be careful and don't screw up this open access! ;) Suggested guidelines for content (not yet updated for new fields/options). Also, there is a new FAQ directly on the site which we will work to update and eventually replace the now outdated one here.
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Re: Version 2 Beta soft launches this week

Unread postby Azid » Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:22 pm  

Don't know where to start,... but there are some things that should be fixed. :(
I'm not trying to be negative but the old site was better, and i write this only as a feedback to fix and improve things.


Negative:
I also had to reset password (minor thing)

1. Search Function:
Doesn't really work. Just try to search for "Rider Back" and see what you get.
I get Tally-Ho decks, Ask Alexander and many more.
Type it again and you will get differnt decks like Artifice, Monarchs, Crown decks
Other Example: Search "Nugget" and you get Tenebre, Whispering Imps, Dapper Deck


2. Discover Function:
Old Version: we were able to select "Company" , "Artist", "Printer" and 1 other option i forgot :lol:
Now: Quantity, Color, Tuck , Stock, Style
The new selections are good as expansions but i miss especially the "Artist" and "Company" function

3. Deck name doesn't show up anymore if you move the mouse cursor to a picture.

4. Decks got lost from collection:
Still trying to find out which are missing..... right now Gentleman Black, Inception Inceptus, Intellectus, Illustratum were missing from my collection

5.Trade Function is missing.
Aswell if you are on the "Full Page Info" you can't click on "Wishlist" or "Tradelists" to see who wants or who trades this deck.


Positive:
1. "Add new Deck" , didn't test it right now (will try this weekend) but i like opportunity to add a deck.

2. Design of the new page: I like it more then the old ;)

3. "Pop Up" if you click an a deck


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Re: Version 2 Beta soft launches this week

Unread postby rorschach » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:10 pm  

search appears to be somewhat broken/not useful in the Beta. when searching for a specific deck i find alot of decks come up before the deck i'm looking for, that have less to do with the deck i'm after.

e.g, i searched for Jackson Robinson's Crazy 8's (typing in 'Crazy 8's' into the search box) and it was the 40th or so result from the top. even Delirium and Cultura decks showed up before it.

Hopefully this is helpful to improving the Beta!

side note - when hovering over a deck in search, it could be helpful to display the decks name below it, as i find their are a lot of instances where you discover a new deck, by searching for another. i know you can easily click and get a small pop-up window, but this would be a nice addition.
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Re: Version 2 Beta soft launches this week

Unread postby Tayranno » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:13 pm  

Site is looking good but I agree the search function is a bit broken. The site is also pretty difficult to use on a mobile device. Any on screen windows that pop up are huge and you have scroll around to use buttons/close the window.

I also have a bunch of random deck ratings that I didn't place (I haven't even logged in for a few months), including on decks that I don't even own. There doesn't seem to be a way to remove a rating, either.

Lastly, my custom ordering has been completely defenestrated. When moving decks around there doesn't seem to be any "save changes" button now (hopefully I'm not blind), nor does it automatically save.

I like this XP feature, though! Way to suck in the gamers. :mrgreen:
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Re: Version 2 Beta soft launches this week

Unread postby IAmTheChin » Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:01 pm  

Hey Guys,

I know we all like some of the safety of the old and want the shiny of the new. Going to try to address a few things quick inbetween running around everywhere haha.

1) Search - It's a tricky thing. Ask Alexander is finite text and is a basic global search. I've modified the site so that it will only search our manual search fields now and Titles and removed the "Description Field" which was what was throwing off so many results. You should be getting better results now. Also this site is based on fleshing out the deck data. Right now we have all the old decks in there without "search terms" tagged to them yet. As we fill out missing fields of decks like "Company" or "Stock" or "Finish" hypothetically speaking we will start to get stronger search results that will begin to make sense. Right now we're in a new frontier and things will be a little messy lol.

2) Discover - You can still search by Artist, Printer, and Company. Those fields never disappeared. You would just use the search bar instead of an icon to filter them out specifically. Having a large list of companies is something we can do in the future but the fact that it was ever growing was a problem on the old site that got things a bit messy. If requested enough we can figure out a new UX that would accommodate that kind of browsing.

3) Deck name was purposefully removed to show full back design. You can click the decks for a lightbox that will allow you to do all the old features plus include personal notes and larger images of the decks themselves without browsing out of the feed.

4) Missing decks should be added back now.

5) That one is a real one. We used to do that but now that the site is starting to scale there was the issue of privacy that came up that I never even thought of before. This is why we don't have user names discoverable in the search bar either. You can only view with direct links right now. I'll consider opening this one back up though. It was definitely a fun one.

Tayranno wrote:
I also have a bunch of random deck ratings that I didn't place (I haven't even logged in for a few months), including on decks that I don't even own. There doesn't seem to be a way to remove a rating, either.

Lastly, my custom ordering has been completely defenestrated. When moving decks around there doesn't seem to be any "save changes" button now (hopefully I'm not blind), nor does it automatically save.

I like this XP feature, though! Way to suck in the gamers. :mrgreen:


The "ratings" were a way to transfer the old points of the old site to the new one through the new XP system. We had to put them in somehow and used the unused "ratings" column to log points in.

I sincerely apologize for the custom ordering. I made countless requests to ensure that they would be saved. It did not make it for whatever reason. I am truly sorry about that.

The XP feature is hopefully to help people get interested in contributing information to the site. It's not even fully up now with badges but it was a long build and it'll be nice to let the site grow into its own for a little bit before going for another round :)

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Re: Version 2 Beta soft launches this week

Unread postby Azid » Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:56 pm  

IAmTheChin wrote:1) Search - It's a tricky thing. Ask Alexander is finite text and is a basic global search. I've modified the site so that it will only search our manual search fields now and Titles and removed the "Description Field" which was what was throwing off so many results. You should be getting better results now. Also this site is based on fleshing out the deck data. Right now we have all the old decks in there without "search terms" tagged to them yet. As we fill out missing fields of decks like "Company" or "Stock" or "Finish" hypothetically speaking we will start to get stronger search results that will begin to make sense. Right now we're in a new frontier and things will be a little messy lol.

Ok, Thanks for explaining. So there is a lot of work to do. Right now i can search for "ellusionist" and get 5 decks.
So we have to edit all Ellusionist decks by typing "Ellusionist" in the company field to get this working right ?



IAmTheChin wrote:2) Discover - You can still search by Artist, Printer, and Company. Those fields never disappeared. You would just use the search bar instead of an icon to filter them out specifically. Having a large list of companies is something we can do in the future but the fact that it was ever growing was a problem on the old site that got things a bit messy. If requested enough we can figure out a new UX that would accommodate that kind of browsing.

It was just an easy way to search for something by clicking a button, but not necessary ;)



IAmTheChin wrote:3) Deck name was purposefully removed to show full back design. You can click the decks for a lightbox that will allow you to do all the old features plus include personal notes and larger images of the decks themselves without browsing out of the feed.

Yep, nice feature to see the back design now, it's a good thing :) But in some cases the decks look exact the same on front and back (prototypes, stripper, invisible, gaff.... ) so you have to click on every deck to see what it's exactly. Anyways not a big deal ;)



IAmTheChin wrote:4) Missing decks should be added back now.

Decks itself weren't missing, they just dropped out of personal collections (in my case it were just 5 decks ;))



IAmTheChin wrote:5) That one is a real one. We used to do that but now that the site is starting to scale there was the issue of privacy that came up that I never even thought of before. This is why we don't have user names discoverable in the search bar either. You can only view with direct links right now. I'll consider opening this one back up though. It was definitely a fun one.

Maybe open this just for Wish & Tradelist not for collections, by agreeing the terms for signing up at portfolio52.
On the main page, below "Recently Colleted" you can see who added the last 4 decks to his/her collection on portfolio52. I can click at the user and see his/her whole collection. Not so for "recently added".


Thanks for explaining all that things. ;)

Another thing... i added 18 decks in the last 5 days, i can see them in my collection but if i search for it by "Discovery" + "Newest" or just typing the name of one in the search bar they don't show up. So a contributor needs to check them and add it then ?

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Re: Version 2 Beta soft launches this week

Unread postby rorschach » Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:50 pm  

Hi,

Glad to hear Alex is on the thread, I wasn't sure where we should be posting any bugs we found, and this was the only thread referencing the new Beta.

Having a bit more time with the website, it's beginning to grow on me. I do like some of the changes, but the problem with search is troublesome.

I added a couple of decks a few days ago(Jackson's Crazy 8's) and just did a search for them. I typed in 'Crazy 8's' and it was the 2nd last result out of the 20 decks shown. Not only that, but only one of the two Crazy 8's was even there. This is not an outlier either. Most decks I search for by deck name are nowhere near the top, and instead i'm getting search results that seem to have little to nothing to do with my query. Furthermore, I have a couple of decks that I knew have been added in the past but that I can no longer find at all.

I am concerned, as the current state of search could potentially lead to multiple people adding the same deck and the whole of P52 becoming bloated and confusing mess.

As it stands right now, I would suggest reverting back to the original search until it can be fixed (is that even possible?) I know this is a public beta, but search at the moment feels more like an early alpha at this stage.

I mean no disrespect as I know how hard these problems can be, and I love P52, but at it's current state the search is almost unusable.


I was also wondering if messaging will be coming back? I had a few conversations going with users about decks i'm after that are now just gone.

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Re: Version 2 Beta soft launches this week

Unread postby flyers3003 » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:07 pm  

My guess is this is due to the number of search parameters. By typing in "Crazy 8's" you are doing a search on 'Crazy' as well as a search on '8' (I'm not sure how the search handles the apostrophe s). So all of the 8-Bit decks show up in the search and since numbers usually come before letters, the 8-bit decks are shown 1st. Just doing a search on 'Crazy' only shows 4 decks - all having Crazy in the name - including the two Crazy 8's decks. The search needs the ability to do an AND search not just an OR, so that a search on 'Crazy' AND '8' would only show Jacskon's two decks.

Edit: Actually the search is set to Random, so my guess is the list being returned is actually the order in which they were entered into the database. That is why the Crazy 8 decks are at the end.
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Re: Version 2 Beta soft launches this week

Unread postby rorschach » Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:59 pm  

I noticed search has gotten a bit better, but hardly noticeable. I love P52, but since the overhaul i've all but given up on it, outside of the UI I can't see any improvement. Since this thread doesn't seem to be very active, it feels like not alot of people care too much, and that the site will just eventually fade away.

That would be a waste, since (outside of some messaging issues) the original P52 was so great.

Anyone else have any opinions on the matter?
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Re: Version 2 Beta soft launches this week

Unread postby 4.of.Clubs » Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:26 pm  

rorschach wrote:I noticed search has gotten a bit better, but hardly noticeable. I love P52, but since the overhaul i've all but given up on it, outside of the UI I can't see any improvement. Since this thread doesn't seem to be very active, it feels like not alot of people care too much, and that the site will just eventually fade away.

That would be a waste, since (outside of some messaging issues) the original P52 was so great.

Anyone else have any opinions on the matter?


I've always tried to keep in my mind that the site is free and we should all appreciate what it's providing! But yeah I agree after the new version came out I barely use it anymore (before I'd go on it a few times everyday).

For me the main reasons are:
1. Some decks were lost during the data conversion from my collection and to find out which ones I need to go over my whole collection (1200+) and I haven't found the time to do that.
2. I spent hours (literally hours) of making sure my custom order matches exactly how I stored my decks and that's pretty much gone too. Again, I need to find time to re-do that.
3. Too many people are adding new decks uncontrolled (duplicates, bad image quality, etc.).

I plan on re-doing my collection after the new years when I find some time though! I think it'll actually be kind of fun to look at all the decks I have put away and not touched in years!


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Re: Version 2 Beta soft launches this week

Unread postby Azid » Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:06 pm  

4.of.Clubs wrote:3. Too many people are adding new decks uncontrolled (duplicates, bad image quality, etc.).


Sorry, but i have to disagree on that one. I added like 40+ decks over the last 3 months without contributor status.
What i noticed here, i can add a deck but it doesn't show up if i search for it, aswell if i look at "discover" + "sort by newest". After 2-7 days it shows up on P52, so someone with contributor status has to approve the deck i added. Thats the process like it is and also shown here: http://www.portfolio52.com/become-contributor..

The reason why there are many duplicates around in the last few months is simply that people adding new decks which wait to be approved while a contributor adds the same deck in this time. Later on another contributor approves the decks -> duplicates.

But there is at least 1 guy with contributor status that adds a lot of decks with very low quality (like 8-Bit :lol: )
examples:
http://www.portfolio52.com/deck/4350/view..
http://www.portfolio52.com/deck/4358/view..
http://www.portfolio52.com/deck/4365/view..
This should be stopped, as it says "Upload high quality images of front and backs of the deck box. Avoid cellophane if possible to avoid misrepresenting the deck design."
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Re: Version 2 Beta soft launches this week

Unread postby rorschach » Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:18 pm  

Since this thread doesn't seem to be that popular, is it safe to assume this is the beginning of the end of P52? It doesn't seem to be getting any better.
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Re: Version 2 Beta soft launches this week

Unread postby montecarlojoe » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:20 pm  

Be patient... Alex and all the contributers have real lives and its been a busy time of year!

As long as we continue to build the site up things will continue to develop.

I certain still use it, though I don't contribute as much as I might like to. I suspect it's the same for many.

I've no doubt that Alex has plans that he'll get to when he can
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