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Re: Duplicate Decks

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IAmTheChin wrote:Hi Guys,

One of the big things from the previous platform was eager participation from others who weren't with Contributor or Admin level. The new site was made to allow everyone to contribute. On the back end for Contributors and Admin they have access to a list of every deck being added by who and when. It's essentially a queue list. It worked really well for a while so much so that I thought the site was able to run itself. I took the training wheels off a bit too early. Right now an added deck is IMMEDIATE but the list is still created meaning if it is spam it will show up on the list and on that list we can see any spam/duplicates and delete them.

Unfortunately it either looks like it's not working or myself as an admin am accidentally allowing decks to go through that are duplicates. In terms of immediate action I'll be adding a "duplicate" flag button. But in terms of the larger question,
"Do we want new decks to only be added by Contributors or by Everybody?"

Let me know. The solution could literally be to go back to just Contributor-level access to upload decks. But realistically speaking I'm thinking that our current system works and we just need more hands on deck that could monitor duplicates. So with that being said, if you're interested please let me know! E-mail alex@seasonsplayingcards.com and I'll try to teach any volunteers the ropes of the backend. Also eventually you'll probably get super duper profiles and free decks from me lol.

Again thank you for understanding this growing process.

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Based on what I've seen I think the permission should be scaled back to admins and contributors. It's great that a lot of people want to contribute but the fact that some people are not uploading quality image and doing the simple duplicate check or following the guidelines is concerning. I think if someone has showed a good track history then you and Nate can then promote the person to contributor status. Since only you and Nate have the permission to delete (maybe couple other) it's hard to ask them to check the site everyday to maintain that.

"Do we want new decks to only be added by Contributors or by Everybody?"

I think the answers is we want everyone to be a contributor, but not everyone can. I'm sure there are a lot of users that aren't UC members and don't check this board, for those people they wouldn't know the guidelines we follow to begin with. To be honest, there are too many people on the internet and a lot of them just don't care and you definitely can't trust "Everybody". I started out putting new decks I'd like added on the UC board and eventually Nate gave me contributor access based on my history just like the other contributors. I really think that should still be the model going forward. The people that really want to contribute can ask/find help on UC and eventually become a contributor.

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Re: Duplicate Decks

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http://www.portfolio52.com/deck/4536/view" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.portfolio52.com/deck/4445/view" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Duplicates.
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Re: Duplicate Decks

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All duplicates now cleaned up, with the exception of the Cherry and DMC since that needs more review before I can clean up.

I appreciate whomever updated decks with DUPLICATE title, that makes it easier for me and also helps users with them in their collection to properly remove it and add the right one. That is a good process - determine the one that is in the fewest collections, rename the title as duplicate, add a comment and perhaps most important remove the tuck images or even replace with this image to notify users. Ideally we would have a merge function or easy way to point users to the right deck, but for now this is good. I also updated the original posting with these details and will add to FAQ.


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Duplicate decks that may still require cleanup
Azid wrote:Cherry Casino V2/Black:
http://www.portfolio52.com/deck/3963/view" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
http://www.portfolio52.com/deck/4383/view" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.


+ All 3 decks should be renamed to "Cherry Casino" as it is written on the side of the tuck box
http://www.portfolio52.com/deck/2713/view" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
http://www.portfolio52.com/deck/3253/view" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
http://www.portfolio52.com/deck/3963/view" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

http://jpplayingcards.co.uk/cherries-playing-cards
http://jpplayingcards.co.uk/v2-Cherries-Playing-Cards
http://www.kardify.com/2016/05/deck-vie ... cards.html
http://www.collectableplayingcards.com/ ... 49251.html

EDIT - I guess I was confused because v1 is apparently green and then v2 is black, but some seem to call v1 blue and also v2 blue??? Plus there is that limited deck (http://www.portfolio52.com/deck/3253/view) so I wasn't sure how many different variants or even a v3. I would agree that the deck name is 'Cherry Casino' and we can use (aka alt names) in title or description to help with searches.




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Re: Duplicate Decks

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ecNate wrote:All duplicates now cleaned up, with the exception of the Cherry and DMC since that needs more review before I can clean up.
4.of.Clubs wrote:http://www.portfolio52.com/deck/4536/view" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.portfolio52.com/deck/4445/view" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.....

Duplicates.
5 versions - http://www.kardify.com/2016/12/first-lo ... cards.html
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Re: Duplicate Decks

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OK, all duplicates have either been removed or properly marked with image, other than the Cherry ones. I think it's now clear there are 2 versions, plus a special edition, but I'm out of time for tonight.

I think the broken search is really causing problems with duplicates though, so hopefully that can be fixed. For example, one of the duplicates was for Archangels deck, but a search for Arch or Angels or even Arch Angels won't find it.
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I do what I can with duplicates when I see them.
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Re: Duplicate Decks

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I wanted to make sure I'm not wrong before calling out a duplicate, but aren't these two the same deck?:

https://www.portfolio52.com/deck/248/view" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.portfolio52.com/deck/5503/view" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I realize the pictures look a little different, but that's because of the way the foiling photographs vs. scans, but I'm pretty sure its the same deck (both have the release year of 2013).
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Re: Duplicate Decks

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flyers3003 wrote:I wanted to make sure I'm not wrong before calling out a duplicate, but aren't these two the same deck?:

https://www.portfolio52.com/deck/248/view" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.portfolio52.com/deck/5503/view" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I realize the pictures look a little different, but that's because of the way the foiling photographs vs. scans, but I'm pretty sure its the same deck (both have the release year of 2013).
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based on description of the newer one and photos I was inclined to believe that it was actually a special edition, but 4.of.Clubs link convinced me it's most likely a duplicate too.
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Re: Duplicate Decks

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Thanks 4.of.Clubs and ecNate! Appreciate the 2nd sets of eyes as it wasn't 100% obvious. I've gone ahead and labelled it as a dupe.
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Re: Duplicate Decks

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Duplicate Deck

TUCK REVEAL [BICYCLE] : https://www.portfolio52.com/deck/6349/view" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Bicycle Reveal Tuck : https://www.portfolio52.com/deck/6338/view" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Duplicate Decks

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Found these duplicates:

https://portfolio52.com/deck/989/view
https://portfolio52.com/deck/340/view

They are both in a lot of collections, so I didn't feel comfortable picking one over the other. Thanks!
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https://portfolio52.com/deck/6983/view" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://portfolio52.com/deck/7013/view" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm pretty sure that these are duplicates.
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Re: Duplicate Decks

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I'm pretty sure the Ebon deck by NoirArts has been duplicated; the tuck box pictures look slightly different which I assume is down to lighting.

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Thanks Max,

Made 5720 as the Duplicate since 5752 had more information overall as well as 5752 appearing in more collections.
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flyers3003 wrote:
Thanks Max,

Made 5720 as the Duplicate since 5752 had more information overall as well as 5752 appearing in more collections.
According to the duplicate deck text, users have to manually update their collection otherwise the deck no longer shows in their collection since it's going to be deleted. Just curious if an update script could be written to update the intersection table holding deck id's / user id's to put the non-duplicate in their collection / wish list / trade list automatically? I'm making a couple of assumptions, the first being that P52 runs on MySQL or SQL Server and second that the collections / wish lists / trade lists are all intersection tables that just hold a foreign key to the deck / user tables. I do some DBA work as part of my development job. I work mostly in SQL Server, but the SQL language is close between platforms and I've done work in MySQL as well. I'd be happy to help with a script if wanted.
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Please when deleting a deck as a duplicate put in a link to the already listed deck --I think that if a link is not put in then the deck should not be allowed to be deleted. Many times a deck is deleted and done so incorrectly as there is something different that the reviewer did not notice. Just a thought. Thanks, Russ
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Re: Duplicate Decks

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I was directed here from portfolio52.com, regarding duplicate entrires. My apologies if this is not the correct procedure.

I recently added two editions of MAGA’s Most Wanted (Mugshot and Late Nite). The database ostensibly only had the Newspaper edition before. My entries were rejected as duplicates. I get no results when searching “MAGA”, “Most Wanted”, “Late Nite” or anything else that I tried, including "Newspaper", which now appears to have vanished (it has been removed from my collection too).

Is it perhaps a Trump fan that rejected my additions and deleted the Newspaper edition? Restricting which decks can be added (especially if it is political) does not seem to fit the mission statement on the site.

The instructions for duplicate deck entries instruct one to find the proper decks. Can anyone help me to find the following decks using the portfolio52 search feature?

MAGA’s Most Wanted: Late Nite
MAGA’s Most Wanted: Mugshot Pack
MAGA’s Most Wanted: Newspaper

They are produced by Unseat Games, if that helps.
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Soutie Bliksem wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:21 am I was directed here from portfolio52.com, regarding duplicate entrires. My apologies if this is not the correct procedure.

Is it perhaps a Trump fan that rejected my additions and deleted the Newspaper edition?
False flags on duplicates are still an issue on site we deal with often mostly because we get a LOT of duplicates so these things happen. In general if you have any specific questions you can DM Portfolio52 on Facebook or IG

First step when receiving a rejected entry is checking the reason in description or title of your submission. A contributor will try to give you notice for why it was rejected in the original submission. It's almost always because an image isn't proper quality or that the deck exists. If it is the later they will put in the description of the rejected entry a link to the deck they believe to be the duplicate of. As long as it is a deck of cards, for the most part we have never rejected a deck based on content. (There were a few pornographic ones we had to help censor gallery-wise but still stayed on site).

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Easiest way if you don't want to wait is to resubmit. When submitting a deck (that can potentially be rejected), it is extremely important to note the differences by making it explicit in the description of how the deck is different (production, visual marks, etc). Make it clear why this submission deserves an entry. What helps even more are images uploaded to the gallery to show and compare the differences. Finally, always link to the original deck in the description to acknowledge that this deck is a variant deck of the original, but still different.
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Re: Duplicate Decks

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Hopefully you guys still check this thread.

The original: https://www.portfolio52.com/deck/4971/view
The duplicate: https://www.portfolio52.com/deck/14614/view

I know the comment of 14614 specifically says "Not a duplicate of https://www.portfolio52.com/deck/4971/view", but as far as I know, there has only been one version of the KWP Pearl Tally-Ho Limited Edition ever released. And I have been obsessively collecting KWP for about 5 years now.

Both show "Pearl Tally Ho xxx/850" on the seal, same colors, though the original has fairly bad lighting. And the uploader did not go into detail about what was different, just that it "was not a duplicate," but I think he was mistaken.

Unless the someone can explain what the difference is, I am fairly certain it is indeed a duplicate.
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Dear Admins,
I have 3 decks of „S.O.M. Secret of Magic“, one is black/white, one red/gold and one in black/gold. The ladt one has been marked as dupe. I did not find any equvivalent deck, so I kindly ask you to tell me wich one you cosider as dupe.
Here is the link to my entry, marked as duplicate:
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Re: Duplicate Decks

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There are three "duplicate" decks posted that are the same deck. The deck is the KWP Back to School Super Duper Polka Dot Gilded version. I have checked with several long term collectors and there was only one variation of the Super Duper. There is a 1/1 overrun/proof/giveaway deck out there in the wild that was initialed by the Austin KWP crew way back when. It is currently for sale on ebay. However, none of the three decks on the site purport to be that 1/1 deck.

The three listings are:

- deck 8621 (having been placed in 18 collections) https://www.portfolio52.com/deck/8621/view
- deck 8632 (having been placed in 23 collections) https://www.portfolio52.com/deck/8632/view
- deck 15257 (having been placed in 4 collections) https://www.portfolio52.com/deck/15257/view

It is important to note that because each of the 120 decks in this limited release were decorated differently by JR's daughters, that the pictures uploaded in these three entries will appear to be for different types of decks.

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Correct deck: https://www.portfolio52.com/deck/7911/view

Duplicate: https://www.portfolio52.com/deck/22507/view

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Re: Duplicate Decks

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https://www.portfolio52.com/deck/23617/view was flagged as a duplicate of https://portfolio52.com/deck/7141/view
https://www.portfolio52.com/deck/23616/view was flagged as a duplicate of https://portfolio52.com/deck/7140/view
These are not duplicates. Decks 23617 and 23616 are in brown boxes. 7141 and 7140 are in dark gray boxes.
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Re: Duplicate Decks

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Hi,
not sure if this is the correct place for this, please let me know if it isn't.

I added a blue WPT Bee Ohio blue seal deck from 2007 to the Portfolio52 and it was marked as a duplicate, eventhough I did not find the Ohio blue seal version, just regular black seal version.

The red version has black and blue seal decks separate:
WPT Red Ohio blue seal
WPT Red black seal

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Re: Duplicate Decks

Unread post by kevork »

forest_of_spades wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:47 am Hi,
not sure if this is the correct place for this, please let me know if it isn't.

I added a blue WPT Bee Ohio blue seal deck from 2007 to the Portfolio52 and it was marked as a duplicate, eventhough I did not find the Ohio blue seal version, just regular black seal version.

The red version has black and blue seal decks separate:
WPT Red Ohio blue seal
WPT Red black seal

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Nurul is also an admin you can message on Facebook if there are any concerns. I messaged him when someone had marked Vittoria prototypes as duplicates when they clearly were not...the colors of the tucks were even different! Check out this mess: https://portfolio52.com/search?search_string=Vittoria

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Re: Duplicate Decks

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Duplicate decks, I added one, didn't see it after a week, added it again then both showed up.

https://www.portfolio52.com/deck/25033/view

https://www.portfolio52.com/deck/24891/view
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Re: Duplicate Decks

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The Hidden Light - The Witch page https://portfolio52.com/deck/25615/view is a duplicate of https://portfolio52.com/deck/25617/view.
The Hidden Light - The Knight page https://portfolio52.com/deck/25614/view is a duplicate of https://portfolio52.com/deck/25616/view.

I edited and marked both.
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