Edits needed
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Re: Edits needed
The Berry deck has the correct back image. That is one of the reasons why I doubt that the Berry deck is actually part of the Fashion series. I wish someone had a definitive list from USPCC of which cards are in the Fashion series.
I have also heard the Rejuvenate, Flirtatious, Bungalow, and Twilight decks called "New Fashion" decks. I have no idea if that is true, either.
I have also heard the Rejuvenate, Flirtatious, Bungalow, and Twilight decks called "New Fashion" decks. I have no idea if that is true, either.
Bicycle 1128 & 2128
I just added the two variations of the Bicycle 1128 deck (I don't know any name other than the number on the tuck). The front of the tuck looks the same, but the back reflects the fact that the faces of the cards have either a white or silver background.
This suggests two edits to other decks in the PCDB:
1. The Bicycle Bungalou should be deleted. It is clearly one of the 1128 variations, but there's no way to tell which one it is. Several users have added it to their collections, so the only way to resolve who has which variation is to delete this one and have them re-add the correct variation from the two I just added.
2. The Bicycle 2128 Silver deck should be renamed to Bicycle 2128 White. This is to be consistent with the 1128 decks. I know there are the two variations of the 1128, but to date, I have never seen a second variation of the 2128 deck (which would logically have a silver background on the card faces).
This suggests two edits to other decks in the PCDB:
1. The Bicycle Bungalou should be deleted. It is clearly one of the 1128 variations, but there's no way to tell which one it is. Several users have added it to their collections, so the only way to resolve who has which variation is to delete this one and have them re-add the correct variation from the two I just added.
2. The Bicycle 2128 Silver deck should be renamed to Bicycle 2128 White. This is to be consistent with the 1128 decks. I know there are the two variations of the 1128, but to date, I have never seen a second variation of the 2128 deck (which would logically have a silver background on the card faces).
Tactical Field
The Tactical Field deck presents an interesting dilemma. There are actually two variations of this, one with green backs, and one with black. Unfortunately, the tucks are identical - there's no way to tell what you have without opening them (although I guess that bricks are half and half).
I think we may need to have 3 separate entries - one for the two variations (for users who know what they have), and a third for the unknowns.
I think we may need to have 3 separate entries - one for the two variations (for users who know what they have), and a third for the unknowns.
Aladdin decks
The Aladdin 1001 Blue and Aladdin 1001 Red decks come in both Smooth Finish and Air-Cushion finish, but the decks that were in the PCDB didn't differentiate.
The picture with the Aladdin 1001 Red deck shows a Smooth Finish tuck and the picture with the Aladdin 1001 Blue deck shows an Air-Cushion tuck. I have added the opposite decks (Blue Smooth and Red Air-Cushion), but the original entries should be renamed to indicate which is which.
The picture with the Aladdin 1001 Red deck shows a Smooth Finish tuck and the picture with the Aladdin 1001 Blue deck shows an Air-Cushion tuck. I have added the opposite decks (Blue Smooth and Red Air-Cushion), but the original entries should be renamed to indicate which is which.
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Re: Aladdin decks
Should we also be differentiating many of the CARC decks (Skull & Bones, Smith Blue, Green Acorn, etc.) with both Cambric and Ivory?dnwheeler wrote:The Aladdin 1001 Blue and Aladdin 1001 Red decks come in both Smooth Finish and Air-Cushion finish, but the decks that were in the PCDB didn't differentiate.
The picture with the Aladdin 1001 Red deck shows a Smooth Finish tuck and the picture with the Aladdin 1001 Blue deck shows an Air-Cushion tuck. I have added the opposite decks (Blue Smooth and Red Air-Cushion), but the original entries should be renamed to indicate which is which.
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Re: Edits needed
IMO when there is no visible difference those kinds of details should be up to the individual collector to track/record. Since the DB is very visual there's no reason to have the same tuck box posted more than once, and notes can be made in the description about the different finishes a deck may have. I believe it has been mentioned that Rhu is going to be making it possible to make notes, or at least have checkboxes, for details like that, within each person's collection.
Re: Edits needed
The Aladdin tucks are, in fact, different between the Air-Cushion and Smooth Finish decks.dazzleguts wrote:Since the DB is very visual there's no reason to have the same tuck box posted more than once, and notes can be made in the description about the different finishes a deck may have.
But, even in cases where the tucks are the same (or very similar), some people (myself included) tend to be completists, and consider even minor variations significant. Some (not me) even go so far as to distinguish between Bicycle Standard decks that have different "ads" printed on the tuck.
It can be hard to guess how people want to use the database. It ranges from "I want to show off my collection" to "I need a detailed inventory covering every print run, location of manufacture, etc."
Magic Castle cards
The Magic Castle cards in the PCDB have images for two different versions of these cards. These should be separate decks. Unfortunately, for the users who already added them to their database, is isn't clear which version they have.
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Re: Magic Castle cards
dnwheeler, please describe the difference between two versions of Magic Castle cards - unfortunately my cards are the same as in PCDB and it's not clear for me..dnwheeler wrote:The Magic Castle cards in the PCDB have images for two different versions of these cards. These should be separate decks. Unfortunately, for the users who already added them to their database, is isn't clear which version they have.
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Re: Magic Castle cards
Here are images of the original decks:iDoctor wrote:dnwheeler, please describe the difference between two versions of Magic Castle cards - unfortunately my cards are the same as in PCDB and it's not clear for me..dnwheeler wrote:The Magic Castle cards in the PCDB have images for two different versions of these cards. These should be separate decks. Unfortunately, for the users who already added them to their database, is isn't clear which version they have.
tuck: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31g9YIl%2Bh8L.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
cards: http://www.magiccastle.com/giftshop/ezc ... cts/53.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And the new decks:
tuck: http://www.magiccastle.com/giftshop/ezc ... tn/988.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
These are both available in blue and red. There is also red and blue 50th anniversary decks.
Anyway, if you look at either the red or blue decks in the PCDB, they each have images from both the original and new decks.
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Re: Edits needed
Yup, correct.. I've just checked the database and my cards - unfortunately you are right, the images have been mixed. What will we do?
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Re: Edits needed
Gentlefolk, please check also the Genesis deck. If I'm not wrong, Genesis has also been duplicated (ID 161 and ID 269) and presented as TPXDesign and Diavoli productions deck.
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Re: Edits needed
Since Joe put the decks up perhaps he could just delete one of the images used and a new entry can be made for the other.
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Re: Edits needed
I also think it's the best decision.
Unfortunately I've found that probably it's my mistake - I've added wrong back side images. Joe put the decks up and added correct front images.
So I should not bother Joe but have to improve it myself...
Ok, I'm deleting both wrong back images of original (USPC/Paulson) version and adding a new entry - Magic Castle v2.
Thank you for the help and sorry for the mistake.
P.S. Unfortunately I don't have back side images of the original decks. If some of you have, please add back images and set the reverse scans for the original versions. Thanks!
Unfortunately I've found that probably it's my mistake - I've added wrong back side images. Joe put the decks up and added correct front images.
So I should not bother Joe but have to improve it myself...
Ok, I'm deleting both wrong back images of original (USPC/Paulson) version and adding a new entry - Magic Castle v2.
Thank you for the help and sorry for the mistake.
P.S. Unfortunately I don't have back side images of the original decks. If some of you have, please add back images and set the reverse scans for the original versions. Thanks!
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Re: Edits needed
I have the originals and will scan the backs in. May even have them already scanned. From what I remember back and front are nearly identical.
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Actually, my decks have the old back, but the box is different, and from the 3 jokers it looks like they were printed by Carta Mundi. I'm not that familiar with the history of the Magic Castle cards so I'm glad you mentioned the printer idoctor. Someone else will have to supply those particular backs.
Here's what my boxes look like - the same on front and back:
**edit
Actually, my decks have the old back, but the box is different, and from the 3 jokers it looks like they were printed by Carta Mundi. I'm not that familiar with the history of the Magic Castle cards so I'm glad you mentioned the printer idoctor. Someone else will have to supply those particular backs.
Here's what my boxes look like - the same on front and back:
Re: Magic Castle Cards
One more complication... I just received another variation of the new USPC Magic Castle cards. The most obvious difference is the bottom of the tuck: I have a red deck that reads "Poker" another red deck that reads "Poker II" and a blue deck that reads "Poker III". Other than that one difference, I can't figure out what is different between the "Poker" and "Poker II" decks. There might be a slight difference in the color, but that could just be my eyes or printing variations - if it's a real difference, it is very slight.
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Re: Edits needed
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Are these the same, then, or is there a difference (and if so, what is it)?
Are these the same, then, or is there a difference (and if so, what is it)?
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Re: Edits needed
Hey Victor,jerichoholic wrote:Just added a massive load of decks to the list from my collection this past weekend. I think I finally got everything I own on there now, lol.
Can you fix the Name for the Scarlett Tally-Ho. It's two 't's not one.
Thanks
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jerichoholic wrote:Just added a massive load of decks to the list from my collection this past weekend. I think I finally got everything I own on there now, lol.
I'll say, I think we jumped over 100 decks since yesterday! Great job!
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