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I guess the exact size depends upon whether or not you want to show the registration marks and alignment bars along each edge. Some people do, others don't. It's a judgment call, really. If you cover them up, the size I quoted is correct, if you show the entire thing from edge-to-edge, you're spot on, though! The precise size for USPCC uncut sheets (7 cards tall by 8 wide) is 20" wide image and 24.5" tall. For Expert and Legends PCC uncut sheets, which are 6 tall by 9 wide, it's 22.5" wide and 21" tall - and that's the image only, does not include the 'salvage' area around the image which includes the registration and alignment marks and color bars, etc.

I saw this post and wanted to point out that MPC does 10x6 card sheets, not 8x7. I haven't been able to measure it yet for actual lengths and widths.

Image size should be 25" wide by 21" high assuming 2½" × 3½" cards.

Thought I would throw mine in the mix. I love any chance I get to show off my framed uncut sheets. I have probably 30 framed. These are just a couple of my favorites.

I had these custom made in a kind of lightbox style with the deck(s) below the uncut. I have some uncut sheets (i.e. white monarchs) that have all the Monarch decks below (i.e. White, silver, navy/gold).

1. Encarded Tendril uncut w/deck
2. Encarded Tendril uncut CYAN printing plate w/gold sealed deck
3. Stranger and Stranger Ultimate uncut w/gold gilded edge deck

The cost of the framing was about $150/each.

chadmcmillan wrote:Thought I would throw mine in the mix. I love any chance I get to show off my framed uncut sheets. I have probably 30 framed. These are just a couple of my favorites.

I had these custom made in a kind of lightbox style with the deck(s) below the uncut. I have some uncut sheets (i.e. white monarchs) that have all the Monarch decks below (i.e. White, silver, navy/gold).

1. Encarded Tendril uncut w/deck
2. Encarded Tendril uncut CYAN printing plate w/gold sealed deck
3. Stranger and Stranger Ultimate uncut w/gold gilded edge deck

The cost of the framing was about $150/each.

VERY nice job, Chad! I like to put a tuck box in mine, but I guess that's personal preference, and you can't always get one. In fact, to get one you usually just have to sacrifice a deck to poker night and put it in a Pack Jacket or something. Those of you that are strictly contemporary deck collectors maybe don't have any of the acrylic-looking plastic deck boxes that vintage/antique deck collectors keep around for just such a thing, here's an example:

VERY nice, Chad! You have THIRTY of them??!!?? I'm sure that my wife would run out of patience LONG before that...

I was thinking of putting a separately-framed tuck of the deck beneath or beside each framed uncut (or, in the case of Uusi uncuts, a small wooden shelf or box with the deck's tuck displayed on one of Peter's wooden deck stands), but I had not considered working the tuck into the same frame as the uncut - again, nice!

RSLancastr wrote:VERY nice, Chad! You have THIRTY of them??!!?? I'm sure that my wife would run out of patience LONG before that...

I was thinking of putting a separately-framed tuck of the deck beneath or beside each framed uncut (or, in the case of Uusi uncuts, a small wooden shelf or box with the deck's tuck displayed on one of Peter's wooden deck stands), but I had not considered working the tuck into the same frame as the uncut - again, nice!

Thanks so much! And if you ask her, my wife would say she has already run out of patience with me. But I make a good bit of money, so she tolerates it.

I wanted to incorporate the tuck box into the frame somehow. This seemed like the most logical choice. Turned out great I thought. Thanks again!

chadmcmillan wrote:And if you ask her, my wife would say she has already run out of patience with me. But I make a good bit of money, so she tolerates it.

Ah, I remember those days... Now I'm on SSD, so...not so much.

I haven't hung any of my uncut sheets yet (because most of my "walls" are floor-to-ceiling bookcases), and I have to take something down to free up space to put something else up...

Yes, my house may be fairly small, but it is paid for!

But when I do get ready to hang my uncut sheets, I'll probably use http://www.frameusa.com/ as my frame resource; as I have for all of my movie posters around my house.

They don't seem to have any double-sided frames, but I think I can work something out to my liking.

Will Hart
Fullerton, California

I know these pale beside Chad's but if you are interested Wal-Mart has a 22x28 "Float frame". Not a bad price at $40.

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EDIT: The $40 gets you two of these. Sorry. I didn't see the "2 Pk" at the end.

NEW EDIT: I googled 22x28 but these are actually 22x26. I need glasses. I think these will still work based on Mike's measurements.

"float frames" are a good idea, but most that I have ever seen are designed for ¾" canvas art, which just doesn't work well for flat or essentially flat items like uncut sheets. These are made for posters so that should work, but are going to be awfully tight even for USPCC uncuts, and those of us who frame uncuts consider them sacred and wouldn't dream of trimming one no matter what. If you have an inexpensive uncut like a $10 Club 808 one, I might be tempted to try it, but the $50+ ones are too hard to replace - if not impossible.

The other thing that worries me is that they don't say anything about being acid free - which in fact might be true since it is plexiglass, but.. . .

ALWAYS better safe than sorry. If you try it, I'd like to see how it turns out. Typical costs are around $100-$150 for most DIY and can easily go $250+ for custom. It sure would not hurt to try with a mockup blank sheet cut to the exact size as a test.

Those are amazing frames, Chad! I love the inset for the tuck case.

Emmanuel wrote:Those are amazing frames, Chad! I love the inset for the tuck case.

Thanks Emmanuel! Now I just have to find the room to hang them all. Not enough wall space.

chadmcmillan wrote:

Emmanuel wrote:Those are amazing frames, Chad! I love the inset for the tuck case.

Thanks Emmanuel! Now I just have to find the room to hang them all. Not enough wall space.

I have some wall space I could donate....

nECr0MaNCeD wrote:

chadmcmillan wrote:

Emmanuel wrote:Those are amazing frames, Chad! I love the inset for the tuck case.

Thanks Emmanuel! Now I just have to find the room to hang them all. Not enough wall space.

. It's about $50, $65 with shipping, but to be honest I've paid a whole lot more to frame uncuts without the floater feature. We'll see - it either works or it doesn't. I suspect if it does we'll run them out of stock pretty quickly!


I have some wall space I could donate....

heheh - and I can make some here, as well. Actually, I found this today sniffing around the "FrameUSA" site so I ordered one in 24" x 30" with "piano black" frame and I'll see how it does: 'Floater' frames from FrameUSA and show my results using a Black Reserve Note uncut.

Something interesting happened a couple of nights ago:

I finally decided to pull the trigger on getting one of my uncuts framed.

We purchased a black 24"x30" frame (at Walmart, of all places) for $18.95, but they - not surprisingly - had no mats nor mounting boards at all for that size frame, let alone one which would fit an uncut, so, later that day, I called a local framing store. When the woman I spoke to asked what it was that I wanted framed, I asked her if she had ever seen or heard of an uncut sheet of playing cards, and she replied "Oh, yeah. We usually frame them double-sided, so you can hang it with the back showing if you'd like."

I was surprised that she even knew what one was, and I was stunned that she brought up the issue of a double-sided frame!

So, 'fess up: which one of you has had an uncut framed in Salem, Oregon?

RSLancastr wrote:Something interesting happened a couple of nights ago:

I finally decided to pull the trigger on getting one of my uncuts framed.

We purchased a black 24"x30" frame (at Walmart, of all places) for $18.95, but they - not surprisingly - had no mats nor mounting boards at all for that size frame, let alone one which would fit an uncut, so, later that day, I called a local framing store. When the woman I spoke to asked what it was that I wanted framed, I asked her if she had ever seen or heard of an uncut sheet of playing cards, and she replied "Oh, yeah. We usually frame them double-sided, so you can hang it with the back showing if you'd like."

I was surprised that she even knew what one was, and I was stunned that she brought up the issue of a double-sided frame!

So, 'fess up: which one of you has had an uncut framed in Salem, Oregon?

I used to frame things for a living about 20+ years ago and the only problem with double sided framing an uncut sheet is the weight of the two pieces of glass. I have double sided art hanging in my house but nothing that size (24x30), its to heavy. You need to use double matboard one for each side then the glass for each side. You have no support for that glass, not like on a regular framing, plus the uncut sheet is hanging there unprotected if the glass breaks the sheet is most likely destroyed. Your best best bet is the chadmcmillan has them done with a deck at the botom or you sacrafrice a tuck box to the bottom keeping it all the same thickness. All in all the least expensive way to go is a metal frame, buy your products on line and assemble at home you should be able to get it done for about $50-$80 each. Just my two sence and I what I will be doing, also use acid free matboard and backboard to keep the uncut sheet safe from.

Have fun

Finally getting some of my uncut sheets hung in my new office.

chadmcmillan wrote:Finally getting side of my uncut sheets hung in my new office.

Truly magnificent looking stuff, Chad!

Truly beautiful Chad. Kudos to you sir. What did you say your address was?!?

After reading this thread, there must be someone out there that could come up with a solution specifically for card collectors. Sounds like an opening for a successful Kickstarter project...

TGunitedcardists wrote:After reading this thread, there must be someone out there that could come up with a solution specifically for card collectors. Sounds like an opening for a successful Kickstarter project...

I assume the logistics and postage costs involved would make it a US-only KS to be viable but would happily be proven wrong

I may have found an insanely simple and inexpensive way to frame my uncuts!!

They are 22"x28" (I am hoping that the 22" is wide enough - I seem to recall USPCC uncuts being something like 22 3/8" x 26 7/8"), and cost less than $8 apiece!

I have ordered two of them (a 22"x28" one and a 24" x 30" one, to try matting with).

They are double-sided, being made entirely of clear PVC.

They may require "mirror hangers" (those bracket-like things used to hang a simple mirror on a wall) to mount them on the wall.

Once they have arrived and I have tried them out, I will upload pics here (and a link to where they can be purchased).

They may end up being "too good to be true", in which case, I will STILL post here about them, to warn you all off them.

Cross your fingers!

RSLancastr wrote:I may have found an insanely simple and inexpensive way to frame my uncuts!!

They are 22"x28" (I am hoping that the 22" is wide enough - I seem to recall USPCC uncuts being something like 22 3/8" x 26 7/8"), and cost less than $8 apiece!

I have ordered two of them (a 22"x28" one and a 24" x 30" one, to try matting with).

They are double-sided, being made entirely of clear PVC.

They may require "mirror hangers" (those bracket-like things used to hang a simple mirror on a wall) to mount them on the wall.

Once they have arrived and I have tried them out, I will upload pics here (and a link to where they can be purchased).

They may end up being "too good to be true", in which case, I will STILL post here about them, to warn you all off them.

Cross your fingers!

Did this come through? I have been looking for better frames. I currently get poster frames from "Michael's" craft store for my uncuts. They do the job, but, I don't care for them. One sided, flimsy, and pretty expensive when looking at 20 uncuts and counting.

Gruul wrote:Did this come through? I have been looking for better frames. I currently get poster frames from "Michael's" craft store for my uncuts. They do the job, but, I don't care for them. One sided, flimsy, and pretty expensive when looking at 20 uncuts and counting.

Yes and no. Still working on it.

RSLancastr wrote:

Gruul wrote:Did this come through? I have been looking for better frames. I currently get poster frames from "Michael's" craft store for my uncuts. They do the job, but, I don't care for them. One sided, flimsy, and pretty expensive when looking at 20 uncuts and counting.

Yes and no. Still working on it.

I am guessing that this project is not being nice to you?

Gruul wrote:

RSLancastr wrote:

Gruul wrote:Did this come through? I have been looking for better frames. I currently get poster frames from "Michael's" craft store for my uncuts. They do the job, but, I don't care for them. One sided, flimsy, and pretty expensive when looking at 20 uncuts and counting.

Yes and no. Still working on it.

I am guessing that this project is not being nice to you?

Well, it's certainly taking more time than I'd anticipated. However, if I work out the kinks and present it here, all of you can avoid some of the pitfalls I've experienced in this.

I laminated the uncut sheet before sandwiching it in the frame.

That looks great! Personally, I don't want to take a chance on laminating my uncuts though. I feel like I would not be able to remove the laminate safely in the future. Currently I am using poster frames from Michael's, but those are one sided of course. I looked into getting sheets of clear polysterine to sandwich them in, but, I couldn't find them inexpensively. I still have hope for RSlancastr to pull through!

Yeah - the lamination is two sided and quite permanent... fortunately I had more than one of these, so I could experiment some. I would like to do the same thing with another uncut except sandwich it between two pieces of non-glare glass, and then build the frame around the glass.