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Re: Framing/Hanging Uncut Sheets

Unread postby Mike Ratledge » Sat May 03, 2014 9:50 am  

I guess the exact size depends upon whether or not you want to show the registration marks and alignment bars along each edge. Some people do, others don't. It's a judgment call, really. If you cover them up, the size I quoted is correct, if you show the entire thing from edge-to-edge, you're spot on, though! The precise size for USPCC uncut sheets (7 cards tall by 8 wide) is 20" wide image and 24.5" tall. For Expert and Legends PCC uncut sheets, which are 6 tall by 9 wide, it's 22.5" wide and 21" tall - and that's the image only, does not include the 'salvage' area around the image which includes the registration and alignment marks and color bars, etc.
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Re: Framing/Hanging Uncut Sheets

Unread postby Cbkimble » Sat May 03, 2014 10:50 am  

I saw this post and wanted to point out that MPC does 10x6 card sheets, not 8x7. I haven't been able to measure it yet for actual lengths and widths.
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Re: Framing/Hanging Uncut Sheets

Unread postby Mike Ratledge » Sat May 03, 2014 11:01 am  

Image size should be 25" wide by 21" high assuming 2½" × 3½" cards.
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Re: Framing/Hanging Uncut Sheets

Unread postby chadmcmillan » Sat May 03, 2014 11:43 am  

Thought I would throw mine in the mix. I love any chance I get to show off my framed uncut sheets. I have probably 30 framed. These are just a couple of my favorites.

I had these custom made in a kind of lightbox style with the deck(s) below the uncut. I have some uncut sheets (i.e. white monarchs) that have all the Monarch decks below (i.e. White, silver, navy/gold).

1. Encarded Tendril uncut w/deck
2. Encarded Tendril uncut CYAN printing plate w/gold sealed deck
3. Stranger and Stranger Ultimate uncut w/gold gilded edge deck

The cost of the framing was about $150/each.
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Re: Framing/Hanging Uncut Sheets

Unread postby Mike Ratledge » Sat May 03, 2014 12:00 pm  

chadmcmillan wrote:Thought I would throw mine in the mix. I love any chance I get to show off my framed uncut sheets. I have probably 30 framed. These are just a couple of my favorites.

I had these custom made in a kind of lightbox style with the deck(s) below the uncut. I have some uncut sheets (i.e. white monarchs) that have all the Monarch decks below (i.e. White, silver, navy/gold).

1. Encarded Tendril uncut w/deck
2. Encarded Tendril uncut CYAN printing plate w/gold sealed deck
3. Stranger and Stranger Ultimate uncut w/gold gilded edge deck

The cost of the framing was about $150/each.

VERY nice job, Chad! I like to put a tuck box in mine, but I guess that's personal preference, and you can't always get one. In fact, to get one you usually just have to sacrifice a deck to poker night and put it in a Pack Jacket or something. Those of you that are strictly contemporary deck collectors maybe don't have any of the acrylic-looking plastic deck boxes that vintage/antique deck collectors keep around for just such a thing, here's an example:
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Re: Framing/Hanging Uncut Sheets

Unread postby RSLancastr » Sat May 03, 2014 4:09 pm  

VERY nice, Chad! You have THIRTY of them??!!?? I'm sure that my wife would run out of patience LONG before that...

I was thinking of putting a separately-framed tuck of the deck beneath or beside each framed uncut (or, in the case of Uusi uncuts, a small wooden shelf or box with the deck's tuck displayed on one of Peter's wooden deck stands), but I had not considered working the tuck into the same frame as the uncut - again, nice!
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Re: Framing/Hanging Uncut Sheets

Unread postby chadmcmillan » Sat May 03, 2014 4:34 pm  

RSLancastr wrote:VERY nice, Chad! You have THIRTY of them??!!?? I'm sure that my wife would run out of patience LONG before that...

I was thinking of putting a separately-framed tuck of the deck beneath or beside each framed uncut (or, in the case of Uusi uncuts, a small wooden shelf or box with the deck's tuck displayed on one of Peter's wooden deck stands), but I had not considered working the tuck into the same frame as the uncut - again, nice!


Thanks so much! And if you ask her, my wife would say she has already run out of patience with me. But I make a good bit of money, so she tolerates it.

I wanted to incorporate the tuck box into the frame somehow. This seemed like the most logical choice. Turned out great I thought. Thanks again!
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Re: Framing/Hanging Uncut Sheets

Unread postby RSLancastr » Sat May 03, 2014 5:16 pm  

chadmcmillan wrote:And if you ask her, my wife would say she has already run out of patience with me. But I make a good bit of money, so she tolerates it.


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Re: Framing/Hanging Uncut Sheets

Unread postby WillHart CthulhuWho1 » Mon May 05, 2014 10:42 am  

I haven't hung any of my uncut sheets yet (because most of my "walls" are floor-to-ceiling bookcases), and I have to take something down to free up space to put something else up...

Yes, my house may be fairly small, but it is paid for!

But when I do get ready to hang my uncut sheets, I'll probably use http://www.frameusa.com/ as my frame resource; as I have for all of my movie posters around my house.

They don't seem to have any double-sided frames, but I think I can work something out to my liking.

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Re: Framing/Hanging Uncut Sheets

Unread postby nECr0MaNCeD » Tue May 06, 2014 10:30 am  

I know these pale beside Chad's but if you are interested Wal-Mart has a 22x28 "Float frame". Not a bad price at $40.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mainstays-Mul ... k/17284442..

EDIT: The $40 gets you two of these. Sorry. I didn't see the "2 Pk" at the end.

NEW EDIT: I googled 22x28 but these are actually 22x26. I need glasses. I think these will still work based on Mike's measurements.
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Re: Framing/Hanging Uncut Sheets

Unread postby Mike Ratledge » Tue May 06, 2014 1:14 pm  

"float frames" are a good idea, but most that I have ever seen are designed for ¾" canvas art, which just doesn't work well for flat or essentially flat items like uncut sheets. These are made for posters so that should work, but are going to be awfully tight even for USPCC uncuts, and those of us who frame uncuts consider them sacred and wouldn't dream of trimming one no matter what. If you have an inexpensive uncut like a $10 Club 808 one, I might be tempted to try it, but the $50+ ones are too hard to replace - if not impossible.

The other thing that worries me is that they don't say anything about being acid free - which in fact might be true since it is plexiglass, but.. . .

ALWAYS better safe than sorry. If you try it, I'd like to see how it turns out. Typical costs are around $100-$150 for most DIY and can easily go $250+ for custom. It sure would not hurt to try with a mockup blank sheet cut to the exact size as a test.
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Re: Framing/Hanging Uncut Sheets

Unread postby Emmanuel » Tue May 06, 2014 5:23 pm  

Those are amazing frames, Chad! I love the inset for the tuck case.
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Re: Framing/Hanging Uncut Sheets

Unread postby chadmcmillan » Tue May 06, 2014 5:43 pm  

Emmanuel wrote:Those are amazing frames, Chad! I love the inset for the tuck case.


Thanks Emmanuel! Now I just have to find the room to hang them all. Not enough wall space.
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Re: Framing/Hanging Uncut Sheets

Unread postby nECr0MaNCeD » Tue May 06, 2014 8:55 pm  

chadmcmillan wrote:
Emmanuel wrote:Those are amazing frames, Chad! I love the inset for the tuck case.


Thanks Emmanuel! Now I just have to find the room to hang them all. Not enough wall space.



I have some wall space I could donate.... :ugthink:
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Re: Framing/Hanging Uncut Sheets

Unread postby Mike Ratledge » Tue May 06, 2014 9:08 pm  

nECr0MaNCeD wrote:
chadmcmillan wrote:
Emmanuel wrote:Those are amazing frames, Chad! I love the inset for the tuck case.


Thanks Emmanuel! Now I just have to find the room to hang them all. Not enough wall space.
. It's about $50, $65 with shipping, but to be honest I've paid a whole lot more to frame uncuts without the floater feature. We'll see - it either works or it doesn't. I suspect if it does we'll run them out of stock pretty quickly!


I have some wall space I could donate.... :ugthink:

heheh - and I can make some here, as well. Actually, I found this today sniffing around the "FrameUSA" site so I ordered one in 24" x 30" with "piano black" frame and I'll see how it does: 'Floater' frames from FrameUSA and show my results using a Black Reserve Note uncut.
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Re: Framing/Hanging Uncut Sheets

Unread postby RSLancastr » Thu May 08, 2014 3:30 pm  

Something interesting happened a couple of nights ago:

I finally decided to pull the trigger on getting one of my uncuts framed.

We purchased a black 24"x30" frame (at Walmart, of all places) for $18.95, but they - not surprisingly - had no mats nor mounting boards at all for that size frame, let alone one which would fit an uncut, so, later that day, I called a local framing store. When the woman I spoke to asked what it was that I wanted framed, I asked her if she had ever seen or heard of an uncut sheet of playing cards, and she replied "Oh, yeah. We usually frame them double-sided, so you can hang it with the back showing if you'd like."

I was surprised that she even knew what one was, and I was stunned that she brought up the issue of a double-sided frame!

So, 'fess up: which one of you has had an uncut framed in Salem, Oregon?
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Re: Framing/Hanging Uncut Sheets

Unread postby framegod » Thu May 08, 2014 11:13 pm  

RSLancastr wrote:Something interesting happened a couple of nights ago:

I finally decided to pull the trigger on getting one of my uncuts framed.

We purchased a black 24"x30" frame (at Walmart, of all places) for $18.95, but they - not surprisingly - had no mats nor mounting boards at all for that size frame, let alone one which would fit an uncut, so, later that day, I called a local framing store. When the woman I spoke to asked what it was that I wanted framed, I asked her if she had ever seen or heard of an uncut sheet of playing cards, and she replied "Oh, yeah. We usually frame them double-sided, so you can hang it with the back showing if you'd like."

I was surprised that she even knew what one was, and I was stunned that she brought up the issue of a double-sided frame!

So, 'fess up: which one of you has had an uncut framed in Salem, Oregon?


I used to frame things for a living about 20+ years ago and the only problem with double sided framing an uncut sheet is the weight of the two pieces of glass. I have double sided art hanging in my house but nothing that size (24x30), its to heavy. You need to use double matboard one for each side then the glass for each side. You have no support for that glass, not like on a regular framing, plus the uncut sheet is hanging there unprotected if the glass breaks the sheet is most likely destroyed. Your best best bet is the chadmcmillan has them done with a deck at the botom or you sacrafrice a tuck box to the bottom keeping it all the same thickness. All in all the least expensive way to go is a metal frame, buy your products on line and assemble at home you should be able to get it done for about $50-$80 each. Just my two sence and I what I will be doing, also use acid free matboard and backboard to keep the uncut sheet safe from.

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Re: Framing/Hanging Uncut Sheets

Unread postby chadmcmillan » Mon May 26, 2014 4:39 pm  

Finally getting some of my uncut sheets hung in my new office.

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Re: Framing/Hanging Uncut Sheets

Unread postby Mike Ratledge » Mon May 26, 2014 6:15 pm  

chadmcmillan wrote:Finally getting side of my uncut sheets hung in my new office.

Truly magnificent looking stuff, Chad!
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Re: Framing/Hanging Uncut Sheets

Unread postby nECr0MaNCeD » Mon May 26, 2014 11:53 pm  

Truly beautiful Chad. Kudos to you sir. What did you say your address was?!? :lol:
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