True, I agree. Chuqui, I finally put my hands on the oldest KEM decks pair (the one in a double Neillite box) and it sis a FAWN back, as I rememberef. One thing though - instead of the cold r disc, mine is all silver reflective. I will post a pix shortly.Chuqii wrote:When I get a chance to scan more of the court cards, I'll get some of these posted to the time machine.
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And a few more antique deck sets, two from National Card Co., Columbia Whist and Apollo(Music, Panel, and Clover back designs) and my first De la Rue deck which has interesting indices. Enjoy.
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Very cool. is this your first British Deck ?....you better watch out you`ll be getting a Waddingtons deck nextChuqii wrote: my first De la Rue deck which has interesting indices. Enjoy.
A Little info. The court cards are the D.6 variant ,these were introduced by De La Rue in 1870 and ran till 1915 this variant was the first to have all the courts turned.
The indexes are known as "Dexter" indexes and was introduced in 1878 but did not prove popular with the public so was discontinued around 1882-1883. There are at least three different variations of the dexter indexes, the differences are the aces can have either "Ace" or "1", the jacks can have either "J" or "Kn" and there are different pip arrangements for the lower number cards (e.g your 3 has the pips running vertical ,where some variants has the pips running diagonal from corner to corner)
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Ah, but I already have a Waddingtons deck, but that's just because I have a penchant for 5 suit bridge decks. II was surprised that the Crowns suit used completely different courts than the other 4 suits. Really just seemed tacked on. So far I've been able to stop at that one deck .....
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Updated 5/11 - Turns out I have two Waddingtons, I also have a Cir-Q-Lar deck. Here are photos of both my Waddingtons
And thanks for all of the great info on the De La Rue deck.
Updated 5/11 - Turns out I have two Waddingtons, I also have a Cir-Q-Lar deck. Here are photos of both my Waddingtons
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Cool that the date can be narrowed down so much, thanks to our expert Jase.
I'm glad you've widened the field of your collecting Chuqii. It's great seeing these fine old decks here, and feeling the vicarious thrill of their discovery.
I'm glad you've widened the field of your collecting Chuqii. It's great seeing these fine old decks here, and feeling the vicarious thrill of their discovery.
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And now back to my KEMs. It took me a long time to track down these decks that were designed by Raymond Loewy, "the father of industrial design." KEM only made these particular decks for about 2 years starting in 1939. Raymond Lowey was a big deal, star designer at that time. from Wikipedia:
Raymond Loewy was a French-born American industrial designer who achieved fame for the magnitude of his design efforts across a variety of industries. He was recognized for this by Time magazine and featured on its cover on October 31, 1949.[3]
He spent most of his professional career in the United States, becoming a naturalized citizen in 1938. Among his designs were the Shell, Exxon, TWA and the former BP logos, the Greyhound Scenicruiser bus, Coca-Cola vending machines, the Lucky Strike package, Coldspot refrigerators, the Studebaker Avanti and Champion, and the Air Force One livery. He was involved with numerous railroad designs, including the Pennsylvania Railroad GG1 and S-1 locomotives, the color scheme and Eagle motif for the first streamliners of the Missouri Pacific Railroad and a number of lesser known color scheme and car interior designs for other railroads. His career spanned seven decades.
The press referred to Raymond Loewy as The Man Who Shaped America, The Father of Streamlining and The Father of Industrial Design.
The print image is from a 1940 catalog.
Raymond Loewy was a French-born American industrial designer who achieved fame for the magnitude of his design efforts across a variety of industries. He was recognized for this by Time magazine and featured on its cover on October 31, 1949.[3]
He spent most of his professional career in the United States, becoming a naturalized citizen in 1938. Among his designs were the Shell, Exxon, TWA and the former BP logos, the Greyhound Scenicruiser bus, Coca-Cola vending machines, the Lucky Strike package, Coldspot refrigerators, the Studebaker Avanti and Champion, and the Air Force One livery. He was involved with numerous railroad designs, including the Pennsylvania Railroad GG1 and S-1 locomotives, the color scheme and Eagle motif for the first streamliners of the Missouri Pacific Railroad and a number of lesser known color scheme and car interior designs for other railroads. His career spanned seven decades.
The press referred to Raymond Loewy as The Man Who Shaped America, The Father of Streamlining and The Father of Industrial Design.
The print image is from a 1940 catalog.
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Just a quick group shot of some mostly lower end or generic type decks from around 1920s to 1940s. These never get any love, so here they are
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They're lucky to live in that neat dresser drawer Chuqii !
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I would love to see the Discus cards Chuqii. There were some good backs for those, and they make a nice spread with all those repeating suit signs around the edges of the faces.
I wonder, is it possible to fan round cards?
Some interesting boxes there. I've bought some decks based on the boxes, only to find the cards themselves boring.
I wonder, is it possible to fan round cards?
Some interesting boxes there. I've bought some decks based on the boxes, only to find the cards themselves boring.
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Ask, and ye shall receive. Here's the Discus deck with more detail. I'm not much of a fanner, even for regular cards, so here's a mini-fan of these round cards. A fan with the card backs was no good since the cards can all be rotated differently, so just a mess. If anybody else wants a closer look at a deck or a box, just let me know.
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It's been awhile, so time to post some of my newest acquisitions. First up is an early 1890s Bicycle Lotus back deck, and then an 1895 Lotus back deck. I had read somewhere that USPC changed the court card designs around this time, and you can really see the differences. Definite improvement, in my opinion.
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Here are a couple of decks featuring animal backs - a USPCC Sportsman's deck (with the bird - Pheasant back) and a National Card Co. Crescent deck (c.1890) with the mean looking cat in a bow-tie
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A few more new additions. First, A Pullman deck made by USPCC c1900. One of my favorite back designs, and I was finally able to find a poker size deck in awesome condition.
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So this is an interesting KEM deck. It has the 2nd ever KEM ace of spades, KEM Playing Cards, Inc. (c1936), but the Thrilling Stoty of KEM Cards booklet has KEM Cards Sales Corp. on the back side, so that would put it c1937. Maybe cards made prior to company change. More intriguing, this is my second KEM deck from around this time with a Brown & Bigelow tax stamp. Other deck is in page 2 of this thread. So now I'm wondering if all the early KEM decks were made by B & b and when did KEM Cards get its own tax stamp?
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And back to the pre-1900s. Here's an old Cadets decks with the side opening tuck c.1895. Cadets were one of USPCC's small decks (1 5/8" x 2 1/4'). Nice plaid design.
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And the USPC No. 888 Mystic Playing Cards - Shriner Series - nice gold accents on the back - c1898
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Here is a neat little set of Chukker playing cards from USPCC from the 1930s based on the tax stamps. Fun box and design. Chukker refers to the time periods in polo.
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A quickie for the weekend. This is about the only Brown & Bigelow back that I've ever liked, so might as well share.
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New additions. First, a USPC Treasury deck in a slipcase with GAR Encampment, Sept 1898 Cincinnati, so I'm thinking from around 1898. The "Grand Army of the Republic" (GAR) was a fraternal organization composed of veterans of the Union Army (United States Army), Union Navy (U.S. Navy), Marines and the U.S. Revenue Cutter Service who served in the American Civil War for the Northern/Federal forces (Thanks wikipedia!)
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Here are some really neat decks that I picked up. First off are three sets of the Poker Taurino playing cards made in Mexico. The red and blue each have the same back deasign. Each card has a different scene, so I tried to show a bunch of them. I really like the big pip on the courts and aces.
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Here's one I would guess most people haven't seen before - Russell Blue Ribbon Koh-I-Noor back.
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Here are my only two Pyramid Playing Card Co. (Brooklyn, NY - 1920s) decks - one Home Run and one Peter Pan. The Peter Pan is bridge size and has different courts. Looks like they weren't too concerned about coloring inside the lines. Enjoy.
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Here's a cool early Torpedo box (1924-1929 based on tax stamp). Cards are Russell PCC, but I don't know if they are the original cards with the box or not. Anyway, I really love that box. At first I thought it was a seagull on the joker, but I haven't seen many seagulls hunting other birds. Anyone what kind of bird this is? {UPDATE} from Playing Card Forum, this is a HAWK and here is a picture of the Kalamazoo Playing Card Co. Hawk brand with same image. Kalamazoo bought Willis W Russell and formed Russell Playing Card Co around 1912.
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It is getting harder and harder for me to find KEMs to add to my collection, but I recently snagged this set of 1935 KEM Club decks with the original ace and in the original red and blue colors.
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Heya Chuqii,
Your bird may be a Chickenhawk ?
Or not ....
Your bird may be a Chickenhawk ?
Or not ....
O, I beg of you your comprehensions,
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But Lèse-majesté, especially >Normans, natch.
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Neigh .... the Effluxor of the Omniverse ??
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For everybody who has the Mauger Centennial reproductions, here's your great-great-great-great uncle, c1876. Has no indices, a little different Ace of Spades with the angled spade pips. The Ace - 9 of each suit shows a lot more wear than the 2-8. You can see the difference in the card backs. My new favorite deck.
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Here's another cool tuck box - Crow Brand with a 1911 tax stamp. Courts aren't very exciting, though.
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It has been a while, so here are a few new additions, starting with the oldest first: c1883 Russel & Morgan Co. Steamboat deck in two color printing
Next are a couple of game sets c1910, the mini cards are Cadets and USPC domino cards
And lastly a matched set of Russell PCC Sweathearts, also c1910
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Here is a good looking Congress deck c.1904. This was part of the Congress Club Series, Imperial back, and has a nice gold ink. Nice looking deck. Ad from same time introducing this back and others in the Club Series. Interesting, looks like they recycled this back (and the Majestic back) from The Stage #65 series. Glad they kept the metallic inks.
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)
There is an old thread on PCF (http://www.playingcardforum.com/index.p ... 3#msg35823" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) that mentions that there are Aristocrat back designs other than the No. 1, No. 2 and No. 3 that everyone know, but I've never seen one or been able to find any images, until now. Just picked up an Aristocrat Allover No. 7 deck c.1944 (see pics). So I guess there are backs No. 4, No. 5 and No.6, maybe more. Does anyone have any of those decks or info about the Nos. 4+ Aristocrat backs? If so, please post or let me know. Love to see the mystery deck backs.
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