[Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

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[Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Chuqii » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:23 pm  

It's been a good quarter for my KEM collection. 4 new 1st gen Neillite cases, two new clamshells, one new box and some awesome cards (Cameo (C342), Seascape (C87), Kent (C342), Pinochle (C140) and the one I still haven't found a name for, Cosmic Gas Earth (C140). The business card is actually one of the cards from the Pinochle deck.

Update 4/23/15 - Cosmic Gas Earth is actually Stratosphere

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Re: [Chuqii] Latest additions to my KEM collection

Unread postby Eoghann » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:59 am  

Cool! Do you collect Kem exclusively?
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Re: [Chuqii] Latest additions to my KEM collection

Unread postby dazzleguts » Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:12 am  

I like the backs on those last 2 sets a lot. The patterned one is almost psychedelic looking.
Kem also used a very particular green that I like. I think my own more ordinary Kems have that same green.

Like Eoghann I'd like to know if Kems are your focus. We haven't had a lot of collectors who stick to brands, except Bicycle of course :ugthink:
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Re: [Chuqii] Latest additions to my KEM collection

Unread postby Chuqii » Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:47 pm  

I do collect mostly KEMs, specifically KEMs from 1935 to around 1945. Here are some of my other cards from that period. I'll post some more cards and cases soon, along with some period advertising I've been able to track down. These backs are Dance, Carnations, Club, Cameo and Regency.
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Re: [Chuqii] Latest additions to my KEM collection

Unread postby Eoghann » Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:32 pm  

I only have one Kem deck. It's a variant of the red and blue set you have up top. We don't get many Kem collectors around these parts. Love to see more. :)
That Pinocle back is great.
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Re: [Chuqii] Latest additions to my KEM collection

Unread postby dazzleguts » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:34 pm  

Thankyou for showing those Chuqii. I have a few of the Club backs, in brown and green. They showed up at the local thrift store, in the original boxes, and some with the cardboard sleeve around the boxes. I figured they must be common?

Dan, did your double deck come in the clamshell box?
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Re: [Chuqii] Latest additions to my KEM collection

Unread postby Eoghann » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:01 pm  

Nah, it wasn't a cool clamshell box. :(
It was an individual deck with a box similar to Chuqii's yacht set.

Chuqii: how do you find out the names for the decks? Do you have some reference books or websites?
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Re: [Chuqii] Latest additions to my KEM collection

Unread postby Collector » Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:31 pm  

What are those "4 new 1st gen Neillite cases"? Can you tell more about them?
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Re: [Chuqii] Latest additions to my KEM collection

Unread postby Chuqii » Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:29 pm  

I get most of the names for the backs from newspaper advertising from the 30s and 40s that I researched. Below is one example from the Los Angeles Times.

The Club backs were one of the first KEM designs. They made them for decades, so there are a lot of them out there.

When KEM cards were first sold in 1935, and through about 1939, they came in the kinds of cases shown in the picture. The bottom of the cases is stamped "Neillite," which is a plastic similar to Bakelite. I call these 1st gen since they were the first. The 2nd gen cases are the Bakelite ones with the elongated KEM logo, but no emblem or circle on the top, as seen in the ad. THe 3rd gen are the ones with a more squarish KEM logo with a crown above it.

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Re: [Chuqii] Latest additions to my KEM collection

Unread postby Eoghann » Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:59 pm  

Information! Thanks for it! Mighty interesting. :)
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Re: [Chuqii] Latest additions to my KEM collection

Unread postby dazzleguts » Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:25 pm  

Very Succinct and informative Chuqii. We have a thread in the Knowledge Base area of UC that talks about dating Kem decks, as well as another thread in that area that is more generally "How to Date a Deck of Cards". Neither of them covers this aspect of the early KEM boxes and dates like you have here. Thank you.

I would love to find one of those Pinochle back decks. :drool:
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Re: [Chuqii] Latest additions to my KEM collection

Unread postby Mike Ratledge » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:21 am  

Chuqii wrote:It's been a good quarter for my KEM collection. 4 new 1st gen Neillite cases, two new clamshells, one new box and some awesome cards (Cameo (C342), Seascape (C87), Kent (C342), Pinochle (C140) and the one I still haven't found a name for, Cosmic Gas Earth (C140). The business card is actually one of the cards from the Pinochle deck.

Very nice! Those pre-1940 Neillite (with silver circular emblem) are hard to find...
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Re: [Chuqii] Latest additions to my KEM collection

Unread postby Chuqii » Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:01 pm  

MORE OLDER KEM CARDS
Clipper Ship (C342), Duchess (348), Streamline (C1041), Fawn, Gamecock (C443)
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Re: [Chuqii] Latest additions to my KEM collection

Unread postby dleiber » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:22 am  

Nice cards and boxes! I love KEM cards. Those were the cards we got to use at my grandparents' and parents' houses when we'd play bridge. Fond memories.
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Re: [Chuqii] Latest additions to my KEM collection

Unread postby Chuqii » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:27 pm  

Two more for the collection.

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Re: [Chuqii] Latest additions to my KEM collection

Unread postby Chuqii » Sun May 03, 2015 11:48 pm  

Here are some WWII-era KEM cards in a cardboard case with a notice about wartime conditions. This is a Gamecock deck. Cellophane is a bit ratty, but still has one tax stamp.

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Re: [Chuqii] Latest additions to my KEM collection

Unread postby dazzleguts » Mon May 04, 2015 12:26 pm  

Chuqii, is the Kem without a date on the ace a very early deck? Interesting backs.

I never thought of plastic as being a rationed material during the war. I know Monopoly games substituted wood tokens for the metal ones since metal was scarce.
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Re: [Chuqii] Latest additions to my KEM collection

Unread postby Chuqii » Mon May 04, 2015 1:16 pm  

Yes, the ace with no date is from one of the earliest KEM decks from 1935 when the company started. The only other place I'd seen an ace with no date was in a Cameo deck in the online version of the Cary Playing Card Collection at Yale - http://brbl-legacy.library.yale.edu/car ... ecCARY.asp.
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Re: [Chuqii] Latest additions to my KEM collection

Unread postby dazzleguts » Tue May 05, 2015 12:55 pm  

The link gave me an error message:
"Your query could not be processed. Please re-form your query and try again."
and I couldn't seem to bring up the online version of the collection any other way.

Perhaps you have an access that I don't?

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I was able to get into the Cary Playing Card Database. The first 2 or 3 results of every search I try so far shows broken unviewable images - do you get that too Chuqii?
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Re: [Chuqii] Latest additions to my KEM collection

Unread postby Chuqii » Tue May 05, 2015 6:41 pm  

I'm getting that message, too. Try this link to the search page:

http://brbl-legacy.library.yale.edu/car ... efault.asp..

I'm getting images on my searches. If you are not, then I've no clue (browser? anti-virus blocker? java?)

Then type in KEM for Maker and that should work. Then have some fun exploring the rest of the database.
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