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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques) (wa

Unread postby Mike Ratledge » Sat May 06, 2017 6:54 pm  

Chuqii wrote:When I get a chance to scan more of the court cards, I'll get some of these posted to the time machine.

True, I agree. Chuqui, I finally put my hands on the oldest KEM decks pair (the one in a double Neillite box) and it sis a FAWN back, as I rememberef. One thing though - instead of the cold r disc, mine is all silver reflective. I will post a pix shortly.
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Chuqii » Mon May 08, 2017 2:45 pm  

And a few more antique deck sets, two from National Card Co., Columbia Whist and Apollo, and my first De la Rue deck which has interesting indices. Enjoy.
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Jock1971 » Tue May 09, 2017 1:07 pm  

Chuqii wrote: my first De la Rue deck which has interesting indices. Enjoy.


Very cool. is this your first British Deck ?....you better watch out you`ll be getting a Waddingtons deck next :lol:

A Little info. The court cards are the D.6 variant ,these were introduced by De La Rue in 1870 and ran till 1915 this variant was the first to have all the courts turned.
The indexes are known as "Dexter" indexes and was introduced in 1878 but did not prove popular with the public so was discontinued around 1882-1883. There are at least three different variations of the dexter indexes, the differences are the aces can have either "Ace" or "1", the jacks can have either "J" or "Kn" and there are different pip arrangements for the lower number cards (e.g your 3 has the pips running vertical ,where some variants has the pips running diagonal from corner to corner)
Hope that little bit helps
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Chuqii » Tue May 09, 2017 9:04 pm  

Ah, but I already have a Waddingtons deck, but that's just because I have a penchant for 5 suit bridge decks. II was surprised that the Crowns suit used completely different courts than the other 4 suits. Really just seemed tacked on. So far I've been able to stop at that one deck .....

And thanks for all of the great info on the De La Rue deck.

Updated 5/11 - Turns out I have two Waddingtons, I also have a Cir-Q-Lar deck. Here are photos of both my Waddingtons
Waddintons 5 suit bridge.JPG
Waddintons Cir-Q-Lar.JPG
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby dazzleguts » Wed May 10, 2017 12:43 pm  

Cool that the date can be narrowed down so much, thanks to our expert Jase. :ugking:
I'm glad you've widened the field of your collecting Chuqii. It's great seeing these fine old decks here, and feeling the vicarious thrill of their discovery.
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Chuqii » Thu May 11, 2017 11:33 am  

And now back to my KEMs. It took me a long time to track down these decks that were designed by Raymond Loewy, "the father of industrial design." KEM only made these particular decks for about 2 years starting in 1939. Raymond Lowey was a big deal, star designer at that time. from Wikipedia:

Raymond Loewy was a French-born American industrial designer who achieved fame for the magnitude of his design efforts across a variety of industries. He was recognized for this by Time magazine and featured on its cover on October 31, 1949.[3]

He spent most of his professional career in the United States, becoming a naturalized citizen in 1938. Among his designs were the Shell, Exxon, TWA and the former BP logos, the Greyhound Scenicruiser bus, Coca-Cola vending machines, the Lucky Strike package, Coldspot refrigerators, the Studebaker Avanti and Champion, and the Air Force One livery. He was involved with numerous railroad designs, including the Pennsylvania Railroad GG1 and S-1 locomotives, the color scheme and Eagle motif for the first streamliners of the Missouri Pacific Railroad and a number of lesser known color scheme and car interior designs for other railroads. His career spanned seven decades.

The press referred to Raymond Loewy as The Man Who Shaped America, The Father of Streamlining and The Father of Industrial Design.

The print image is from a 1940 catalog.
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Chuqii » Wed May 17, 2017 4:37 pm  

Just a quick group shot of some mostly lower end or generic type decks from around 1920s to 1940s. These never get any love, so here they are
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Bruno » Wed May 17, 2017 5:55 pm  

They're lucky to live in that neat dresser drawer Chuqii !
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But Lèse-majesté, especially >Normans, natch.

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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby dazzleguts » Fri May 19, 2017 9:52 pm  

I would love to see the Discus cards Chuqii. There were some good backs for those, and they make a nice spread with all those repeating suit signs around the edges of the faces.
I wonder, is it possible to fan round cards?

Some interesting boxes there. I've bought some decks based on the boxes, only to find the cards themselves boring.
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Chuqii » Mon May 22, 2017 10:58 am  

Ask, and ye shall receive. Here's the Discus deck with more detail. I'm not much of a fanner, even for regular cards, so here's a mini-fan of these round cards. A fan with the card backs was no good since the cards can all be rotated differently, so just a mess. If anybody else wants a closer look at a deck or a box, just let me know.
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Chuqii » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:39 am  

It's been awhile, so time to post some of my newest acquisitions. First up is an early 1890s Bicycle Lotus back deck, and then an 1895 Lotus back deck. I had read somewhere that USPC changed the court card designs around this time, and you can really see the differences. Definite improvement, in my opinion.
c1891 Lotus back.JPG
1985 Lotus back.JPG

And some Dougherty Jewel No. 95 decks. These are a little smaller than bridge decks, but not nearly as small as Cadet or Fauntleroy decks.
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Chuqii » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:12 pm  

Here are a couple of decks featuring animal backs - a USPCC Sportsman's deck (with the bird) and a National Card Co. Crescent deck (c.1890) with the mean looking cat in a bow-tie
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Chuqii » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:55 am  

A few more new additions. First, A Pullman deck made by USPCC c1900. One of my favorite back designs, and I was finally able to find a poker size deck in awesome condition.
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and a couple of Perfection Playing Card Co. decks c1890 in very nice shape
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Chuqii » Tue Aug 01, 2017 12:04 pm  

So this is an interesting KEM deck. It has the 2nd ever KEM ace of spades, KEM Playing Cards, Inc. (c1936), but the Thrilling Stoty of KEM Cards booklet has KEM Cards Sales Corp. on the back side, so that would put it c1937. Maybe cards made prior to company change. More intriguing, this is my second KEM deck from around this time with a Brown & Bigelow tax stamp. Other deck is in page 2 of this thread. So now I'm wondering if all the early KEM decks were made by B & b and when did KEM Cards get its own tax stamp?
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