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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Chuqii » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:46 am  

I have a few other plastic cards, but I only collect the KEMs, and mostly pre-WWII KEMs.

Here's a close up of the Steamboat back. I see the resemblance with the ones you posted.
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby dazzleguts » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:15 pm  

Thank you for the close-up. :)

I asked about the other plastic brands because of the Dale deck you showed a while back. The history of the plastic cards is interesting. Plastic was such an exotic substance when it was still new. Even Fournier was making plastic cards early on.

Understand totally wanting to limit the scope of a collection - for cost and space reasons.
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Chuqii » Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:06 pm  

It's about time I posted some more KEMs, though, in this case, it is the KEM gift box circa 1936. Ad is from 1936. Glad to finally have this one in the collection, but I am missing the scorepads and pencils.
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Chuqii » Tue Feb 28, 2017 3:58 pm  

A few more decks for the collection

Two deck set of NYCCC Mascotte No. 69 cards
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and a two deck set of Dougherty Climax playing cards (cool backs)
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby dazzleguts » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:39 pm  

Just read up on Ely Culbertson in wikipedia, after seeing his name in that ad you showed. Very colourful character. He actually advocated for world peace and an end to the rivalry with Russia.

Beautiful box set. Perhaps some score cards will show up. I've seen ones that look like that at my thrift store. They often say "we" and "they" at the tops of the score columns. Can you see what the ones in the ad have printed there? I can't tell from the picture. If I ever came across some I'd be happy to mail them to you.

Do you think that's Hercules on the Dougherty ace?
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Chuqii » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:11 pm  

Colorful is one way to describe Ely Culbertson. Shameless, self-promoter is another, but very interesting.

Here's a Picket deck to follow up on my Canteen deck above. Same number (515), but Picket was issued for WWI. Extra card shows this back design is named "Fort".
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Chuqii » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:55 pm  

And now back to the KEMs ... (This may be more exciting for me than for most, so just but bear with me)

This just came in. In my KEM research I read that the very first KEM plastic cases (which were made of Neillite, not Bakelite) came in a wood grain pattern, but I've never even seen one, or even a picture of one other than the in the black and white ads. So when this came up, I had to get it. And now, so no one else will have to wonder what they look like, here it is with the black cases for comparison and with the Gamecock cards. And the ad announcing the new case and new design of cards. Enjoy.

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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Chuqii » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:38 pm  

A few more additions: My first Sportsman's and Parker Brothers' decks
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Chuqii » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:39 pm  

Very early Blue Ribbon Urn back
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Chuqii » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:41 pm  

and my first Dondorf deck, a gorgeous Baronesse deck with no pips
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Mike Ratledge » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:37 pm  

Chuqii wrote:and my first Dondorf deck, a gorgeous Baronesse deck with no pips

Great deck! I am a bit fond of the Dondorf decks, as I suppose you have noticed. Check the seven of clubs (usually) for actual issue date. Sometimes it is on the 4 of clubs, sometimes they don't tell, but there were a few reprints sans pips. "Baronesse" AKA Whist #160 was issued in 1912.

By the way, those Neillite cases are a tough get. As I recall I have two. I had seen one before I bought either of mine, but the embedded round disk was missing.

Before you started this thread, I had never seen another example. I don't recall seeing a wood-grained one, another great find!
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Chuqii » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:10 am  

Mike,

Thanks for the info on dating Dondorf decks. Good to know whom to go to if I have questions. I checked my deck, and there are no dates on the 4 or 7 of clubs. The Jack of Clubs has "Frankfurt a/m" on one side, and "B. Dondorf" on the other. Does that help with dating these?
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Bruno » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:37 am  

Frankfurt am Main .... 'on the (River) Main' ....
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Mike Ratledge » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:17 pm  

Well, sometimes it is helpful, but you need to find the code (which I have found isn't always there). The big thing with that era is that you can find four (or more) versions of specific cards, like Whist #180 has four different distinct "B"(J) of Clubs. Clearly different, but nobody can hook them up with the original time / year printed.
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Chuqii » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:27 pm  

These Bicycle decks came in this week
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Chuqii » Wed May 03, 2017 12:51 pm  

A few more for the collection:

Two decks National Card Co. Whist size, a Hart's French Whist, 3 Dougherty Bridge No. 45 and a USPC Trophy Whist deck all showing the Spade courts for comparison. The Hart's French Whist are some good looking courts. Anyone know if they were used on other decks?
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Chuqii » Wed May 03, 2017 12:54 pm  

Two more - my first American Bank Note deck (201 Liberty) and a Dougherty Indicator No. 50 deck
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby Jock1971 » Thu May 04, 2017 10:38 am  

WWWooowww... another great selection of antique American decks 8-)

The Bicycle decks are awesome, i love the back of the middle deck :drool: :drool:
Thanks for showing the court cards for comparison, The Hart`s French whist courts are fantastic ,have you thought about adding some decks to the American section of the worldwide time machine. It would be a great resource for all us non Americans to see all the different court variations from the different manufacturers. just a thought.

Thanks for showing your cards and keep `em coming :drool: :drool:
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Re: [Chuqii] KEM collection and more (now with antiques)

Unread postby dazzleguts » Thu May 04, 2017 3:03 pm  

Don't know if those courts were used outside of that deck, but the ones you have have a much higher quality of printing then some of the Hart's French Whist decks that have turned up. The World Wide Playing Card Museum has the same courts for that deck, but printed poorly. The better printing seems to be the earlier decks, from 1905 on, with the 1922 edition seeing a lower quality (judging from the jokers WWPCM shows).

I'm with Jase - these would be a great addition to the North America section of the Worldwide.
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Unread postby Chuqii » Sat May 06, 2017 3:26 pm  

When I get a chance to scan more of the court cards, I'll get some of these posted to the time machine.
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