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Unread postby dazzleguts » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:08 am  

Canadian Pacific Steamships

Made by the Canadian Playing Card Company of Montreal, sometime between 1923 and 1939.


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About Canadian Pacific Steamships:

From the late 1880s, until after World War II, Canadian Pacific was Canada's largest operator of Atlantic and Pacific steamships. Many immigrants travelled on CP ships from Europe to Canada and may have passed the time playing with these cards. The company also provided Canadian Merchant Navy Vessels in World Wars I and II. Twelve vessels were lost due to enemy action in World War II including the largest ship sunk by a German U-Boat.


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About the Canadian Playing Card Company:

The Canadian PCC had it's origins in older printing companies and eventually ends up part of the USPCC. Read on...


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The Canadian Bank Note Company, started in 1887, combined with the Burland Lithogrphic Co. of 1890, and S. Robitaille also of 1890, to form the Union Card & Paper Co. in 1902. In 1911 Union changed names to Consolidated Litho & Mfg Co.

In 1923 Consolidated Litho formed a new company for the manufacture of playing cards - the Canadian Playing Card Company. In 1939 Canadian PCC was sold by Consolidated to the International Playing Card Company, USPCC's Canadian subsidiary. This outlines the time period this deck could have been made in.

I was lucky enough to find these in their original box and below is a picture showing the box front, side and bottom. The back of the box has a card pasted to it with the card back showing.


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*All of the information for this playing card company came from the Hochman Encyclopedia of American Playing Cards - a great resource if you are at all interested in Vintage and antique cards.
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Re: North America

Unread postby Jock1971 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:37 pm  

"Squeezers, No35" by N.Y Consolidated Card Co.
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I don`t really know much about dating this deck and the duty sticker doesn`t tell us much either.
The N.Y Consolidated Card Co was formed in 1871 by the merging of 3 earlier firms ,these firms were, Lawrence & Cohen , Samuel Hart & Co and John j. Levy and lasted until 1930 when it became Consolidated-Dougherty Co.
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Unfortunately there was no joker with the pack.
I`m hoping someone with a bit more knowledge can tell me more about these cards :)
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Re: North America

Unread postby Mike Ratledge » Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:54 am  

Jace, you pretty much have the same level of detail that's in the "Hoffman's Encyclopedia of American Playing Cards": NYCC was formed by Hart, Cohen and Levy merging into one company. I'm sure there's likely a little more information in there, but as I remember nothing that tells you anything more (much, anyway). NYCC cards are hard to find, almost as hard as Longley brands, which are various and Samuel Hart is one of them, so in some ways parts of what was Longley (Hart) ended up being part of New York Consolidated as well. Looking at the style of the courts, I'd say even though you would automatically think it's earlier, it's likely 40's or 50's deck, perhaps even very early 60's? I think they were phased out by USPCC, who had bought them in the mid-20's, I think? Not certain, I'll report more once I read up on it. There's not really much (if anything) in the Hochman's Supplement and Pricing Guide" booklet that's about 10 years newer than the latest Hochman's (2004, original second edition of the Encyclopedia was 1994).
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Re: North America

Unread postby dazzleguts » Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:31 am  

Myself, I think these are an early deck. This ace was first designed as a colour one for a special edition "Royal" deck from 1880, and the black and white version was used in standard Squeezers for years after that. The cherub in the ace Spade became a wreath in later editions (c1916), and the older style NYCC courts we see here started changing to the more modern USPCC courts around the same time.

I find it puzzling there is no mention on the box of the Gold Medal their squeezers deck won in Paris in 1878. They mentioned the medal on the box and in the joker up until at least 1928 (from an ad in the back of "Hoyle's Rules for Card Games"). WOPC has a deck showing with the same ace and courts and they date it to 1915, but their box mentions the medal. Perhaps NYCC didn't want to crow about the Paris Gold Medal on boxes of decks that were being exported to England?

Have you ever seen that card back Mike? I haven't been able to find it anywhere.
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Re: North America

Unread postby Jock1971 » Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:00 am  

Heres another pack from the Canadian Playing Card Co
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All the information Dazzelguts has wrote for the "Steamships" pack relates to this pack also. Unfortunately no joker again.
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i can`t find any information on the "Stag" Brand,but the different Ace and the courts being only two colours and a few other differences,i thought it would be good to compare courts from the 2 packs.
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Re: North America

Unread postby Jock1971 » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:07 pm  

A reproduction of Andrew Dougherty`s Civil War Illuminated deck from U.S Games Systems inc reprinted by permission from the collection of Bob and Rhonda Hawes.
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Originally published in 1865 by Andrew Dougherty .the civil war illuminated deck borrows its name and appearance from illuminated medieval manuscripts as there is extensive use of gold printing on the face and backs of the cards.The illuminated decks were sold under the brand name "Great Mogul".
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The illuminated decks were printed from his factory at 26-28 Beekman Street,New York where he moved to in 1859.
Dougherty invented and built his own machines to produce his cards including steam engines to power his printing presses and steam boilers to dry the ink on the cards.
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Note: The scans do not show the gold ink very well, but these cards are very "Shiney"
thanks for looking at my cards :D -jase-
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Re: North America

Unread postby dazzleguts » Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:27 pm  

I have these too and the gold accents on the faces are indeed very shiny. Not quite the shine and colour of the foiling on the Venexiana Gold, but closer to that than anything else I've seen. It's a beautiful deck. The box is a 2 part box, with a foot on the inner box so that it stands upright.
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Re: North America

Unread postby Mike Ratledge » Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:07 pm  

dazzleguts wrote:Myself, I think these are an early deck. This ace was first designed as a colour one for a special edition "Royal" deck from 1880, and the black and white version was used in standard Squeezers for years after that. The cherub in the ace Spade became a wreath in later editions (c1916), and the older style NYCC courts we see here started changing to the more modern USPCC courts around the same time.

I find it puzzling there is no mention on the box of the Gold Medal their squeezers deck won in Paris in 1878. They mentioned the medal on the box and in the joker up until at least 1928 (from an ad in the back of "Hoyle's Rules for Card Games"). WOPC has a deck showing with the same ace and courts and they date it to 1915, but their box mentions the medal. Perhaps NYCC didn't want to crow about the Paris Gold Medal on boxes of decks that were being exported to England?

Have you ever seen that card back Mike? I haven't been able to find it anywhere.

Yep, not familiar with that specific back, but there were many (many, many!) different backs all sold as "Hart's Squeezers". Just how many, I'd have to ask Tom, which I'll do here in about six weeks in person, but - it's really hard to put a precise number on it, frankly. It could easily be 1910-1930, it could be 1950, but I have to agree that it's not likely. They just have the look & feel more like the 20's, but - again, they did some things that were "looks like 50 years ago" during that same time-frame, but it just can't be more than 30 years older or again - the indices just wouldn't be on the deck. 1890 is about the cutoff for any form of what we're used to these days (not precise, and certainly not all makers), and Hart went through two companies (other than themselves) and still retained the same look and feel - for obvious reasons. They were about the most popular 'brand' of their time. Again, some of them were very rare, and some were quite common - to the point that generalizing Hochman's puts a fairly low value on them for decks of that era (20's). It belongs to one of several groups that they don't even bother to break out into individual decks, I think as I remember there are four or five tables that just show a series of 20-35 different decks but only lists one price for the whole group. As I said, some of them (like the original "Great Moguls" are very valuable and as such have been reproduced several times, at least one intentionally made to be confusing and often sold on ebay as being 'original' - but they're not. That's one problem with reproductions and reprints as opposed to restoration decks: intentionally made to be hard to tell from the originals. Restorations (like Michael Scott's "Triplicates" are exactly that - a completely re-envisioned version of the original not intended to be a even possible to confuse them with the original. Distinctly different simply because they're obviously done with newer technologies. Some of them are better than the originals, which is precisely the point of doing restorations as opposed to reproductions or reprints.
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Re: North America

Unread postby Jock1971 » Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:22 pm  

Here`s a No.60 Bridge Whist pack from Russell Playing Card Co.
A Pretty standard pack, and no joker unfortunately.Narrowed the date down to 1913 - 1930 thanks to Dazzelguts :D
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Re: North America

Unread postby dazzleguts » Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:53 pm  

Tarabish: The Cape Breton Game
c. 1970s by Ocean Promotion of Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada.


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Since it has no barcode, and the graphics look relatively modern, I'm guessing this deck was made sometime in the 1970s. Contained in the Tarabish box are 40 cards, ace & 6 through king, 6 trump info cards, and a foldout paper leaflet with descriptions of the face cards, and instructions on how to play the game.

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This is a non-standard deck with custom faces:
The Jacks represent the island's ties to the land, the sea and the arts.
The Queens show the Celtic culture so common on the island.
The Kings show the coal mining which immigrant people, and local Cape Bretoners, worked at.

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Tarabish, also known by its slang term Bish, was originally a Lebanese trick-taking card game of complex rules derived from Belote, a game of the Jass family. The actual pronunciation of the name is "Tar-bish". It is now played only by the people of Cape Breton Island in the province of Nova Scotia, Canada, where it was introduced in 1901 by a Lebanese immigrant miner called George Shebib.

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A card game that most say is truly a Cape Breton card game as it’s not played with a full deck. So popular on University campus that students who spent more time playing cards than at their classes were said to have a Degree in Bish.
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Re: North America

Unread postby Jock1971 » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:10 pm  

Nice Deck Dazzelguts.
obviously love the queens although i`m not sure what Grandma Diamond is doing, and the Jack of Hearts looks very weird :?
I also like the Puffins in the design of the AoS. 8-)
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Re: North America

Unread postby dazzleguts » Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:20 am  

Hi Jase :)

I think the grandmother is folding or sewing cloth so weaving, or making clothing, is important in Scottish heritage? The J of H probably represents animal husbandry, but the sheep looks like it's a conjoined twin. :shock:

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I don't really have any info for the illustrator of this deck. It seems to have been made for the Atlantic City, Tahoe, and Indiana locations of the Caesars casinos since the Las Vegas casino is called Caesars Palace.

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If anyone more knowledgable about casino decks can fill in some background it would be much appreciated. I do know that this deck version was originally printed by Carta Mundi, but this particular deck has "Made in China" on the box bottom.

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For some reason the jokers/ad cards have red backs.

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Re: North America

Unread postby dazzleguts » Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:03 pm  

Wizard


Wizard is a trick-taking card game for three to six players designed by Ken Fisher of Toronto, Ontario, Canada in 1984. The game was first printed commercially in June 1986, and this deck is from that edition. The deck came in a box a little larger than a double deck box and was accompanied by a score pad and instructions trifold.

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This first edition was made by Graphica Playing Cards of Canada. The "Wizard" deck consists of 60 cards: a regular deck of 52 cards, 4 custom Jesters as the lowest cards, and 4 Wizards as the highest.

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I wish the courts had been customized too, but the creator concentrated on the elements of the game that were most his own. It may also have been considered easier to introduce the game to the public with a familiar regular deck of cards.

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The name of the game is sideways on the backs, making them one-way. Here is the back, and the instructions leaflet.

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Wizard is now licensed in Canada, the United States, Germany, the United Kingdom, Italy and Japan. It is derived from "Oh Hell" and bears some resemblance to it. One of the current versions is fully illustrated with fantasy images of humans, dwarves, elves, and giants on every face card, and no longer has the suits of a deck of playing cards.
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Re: North America

Unread postby ecNate » Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:46 pm  

Of course you have the original

I have the 2011 version and my family long has played a variation of hell, which is the reason I picked this up. I saw the box of the fully custom version at BGG and assumed it was a mistake or other game with same name. Knowing what it is now I might have to get it too.
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Re: North America

Unread postby dazzleguts » Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:41 am  

I often use BGG for reference, and to find out how a game is played. Great site!

Check out the illustrations in the Fantasy version before you pick it up, many people don't care for them.
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Re: North America

Unread postby DragonSoul » Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:04 pm  

Oh man, just saw the Caesars deck. Love it!
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Re: North America

Unread postby ecNate » Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:48 am  

Sorry for the cross post, but I think the PCDB Deck of the Week (USPCC Spotter Cards) should be listed here too.

I won't duplicate content though, so here's the link - http://unitedcardists.com/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=6449#p81034
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Re: North America

Unread postby dazzleguts » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:34 pm  

Cool Nate!

I have a "Commemorative World War II Spotter Cards" set that is basically the same cards, but printed in Hong Kong in 1998. They probably pirated the set that's in the DB. The backs are a goofy war propaganda poster from the 40s. I'll put them in here so we can see the cards in more detail.

Love that "Quick! Which is the enemy?" ad. Did you find that?


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I was wrong in that the Commemorative set is quite different from both ecnate's originals and the Colliers ad. See the entry below.
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Re: North America

Unread postby ecNate » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:54 pm  

That ad I found at this site which is listed there - http://www.bobheffner.com/b17/b17misc.shtml

I actually took mine out just now and made a few observations which I added to the update here and at PCDB. I'm actually really lucky I found one in the condition mine is for so cheap. I know many are out there and show up on ebay once in a while, but I was trying to decide between a facsimile and an original and when found this one I had to have it. I really should pick up a copy one too so I can handle it more. :D
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Re: North America

Unread postby dazzleguts » Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:47 pm  

Commemorative WWII Spotter Cards
1998 reproduction by Action Products


These are unlike both ecNate's DB entry, and the ones shown in the Collier's ad Nate shows above. There are three silhouettes of each plane, with the order, from top to bottom, of side view, front view and bottom view. In the Colliers ad, which also uses 3 views, the order is front view, bottom view and side view. Either there were many variations of the playing cards (very probable), and these were made from one of those, or Action Products used spotter cards that were not originally also playing cards.

I looked around and these actually resemble the larger spotter cards that were used for training. The silhouettes are in the same order but the training ones did not have the white detailing. Here are the training spotter cards:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Briefing_tent_spotter_cards_WWII_entry_FOF_24Aug09_%2814610485073%29.jpg

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The backs of this reproduction feature a WW II poster with a rather madly happy pilot headed for his B-29 and sure victory. Shown in the middle above.

I have only shown the courts and aces but all cards in the deck show silhouettes.

The 2 jokers both show the same Bureau of Aeronautics warning to not reveal this information to unauthorized persons. Don't know if this would have actually applied to the cards since they are known to have been distributed to civilians as well as enlisted men, but it's an interesting inclusion. See the joker in the middle below.

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You can see the tuck box for this deck in the DB entry here:
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