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Unread postby dazzleguts » Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:08 pm  

1567 Rouen Playing Cards
2006 Facsimile


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This deck is a 2006 facsimile taken from a 1567 set of face cards by Pierre Marechal of Rouen, France. They are made by Rose & Pentagram Design.

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The cards of Rouen are significant because in 1628 England banned the importation of playing cards. English printers used the Rouen cards imported prior to the ban as models for their own cruder and more stylized decks. These decks developed into the standard courts still used in many modern French suited decks.

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Here is a comparison with a replica 1500s English card from after the ban. This card is from a replica deck made by hand by Simon Wintle in 1987, using the same technologies of the time - woodcut for the line work and stencil for the colour.


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Re: France

Unread postby dazzleguts » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:23 am  

Game of Chimeras
52 playing cards + 2 different jokers
Published by Editions Face & Dos



In this deck are 20 Illustrations in pencil by Yannick Pennanguer - the 12 courts, 4 aces, 2 jokers, the card back and the Notre Dame Cathedral which is background to every pip card.

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The jokers show Victor Hugo, author of The Hunchback of Notre Dame, and Eugene Viollet-le-Duc who spent 1845 - 1863 restoring the Cathedral.

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Here is the text from the information card shown in the first picture:

Strange mythological creatures originating in the Orient, the chimera were very present in medieval minds and imagination. One can often find these supernatural beings as sculptures in churches and other religious buildings. Contrary to the more popular gargoyles, which were projecting elements used for draining off rainwater, chimeras had a purely ornemental function.

Those that adorn the towers of Notre-Dame Cathedral in Paris, overlooking the city from 46 meters above the ground, are straight out of the imagination of Viollet-le-Duc, the architect who undertook the restoration of the church beginning in 1845.

Among these hybrid animals, these fantastic birds and fabulous monsters, the most famous chimera is undoubtedly the Strige (Queen of Hearts), mischievous night spirit of Oriental legends. Since its creation, the pensive attitude of the Stryga sculpture has fascinated writers and poets. Even today, she seems to contemplate with detachment the changing world below.
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Re: France

Unread postby Jock1971 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:29 pm  

A French deck from my collection,The tuck box is a card box with the car back design on front and back with "Cartes Francaises" printed on the sides and "M.F. 12"printed on the bottom. AT this time i have no information about this deck
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Re: France

Unread postby Jock1971 » Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:23 pm  

A French deck i recently bought off e-bay. this deck is a reprint of an 1856 deck by B.P Grimaud the original deck can be found at http://www.wopc.co.uk/france/grimaud/ro ... rance.html.". I`m not sure when mine was published and as i don`t know any french i`m only guessing it`s published by Trouvay & Gauvin .
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Jokers and Back,Extra cards and tuck

As you can see the tuck is nearly dead i will need to get a plastic box to fit it in before it falls apart but the cards are all fine.
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Re: France

Unread postby dazzleguts » Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:19 pm  

Hey J

Your Cartes Francaises is called a Belgian-Genoese pattern, but it originated with B.P. Grimaud around 1860 as a pattern that was close to the national one of France, but different enough to evade the tax. In the original national pattern of France the cards all had names and the shield carried by the J of C was oval rather than triangular.

This variation on the French pattern was used in Casinos, had early and lasting success in Genoa, and became very popular in Belgium - being adopted as the national pattern after WWII.

The joker is used by Carta Mundi now, but the MF on the bottom of the box suggests the originator of this joker design, Mesmaekers Freres, may have made this deck - sometime between 1925 when that joker first appeared, and 1968, when Van Genechten, who already had close connections with Mesmaekers took over the company. 2 years later Van Genechten was one of the founding companies of Carta Mundi. It's also possible that the deck was printed by Genechton, or Carta Mundi, but they used a reference to MF to identify the particular look of the cards as coming from that source.

You can read about the Genoese patterns here:
http://i-p-c-s.org/pattern/bgp.html.
http://a_pollett.tripod.com/cards21.htm.
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Re: France

Unread postby Jock1971 » Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:55 pm  

WOW.. You are unbelievable Dazzleguts . Thanks for the info and links will look more into it tomorrow as it s late over here .Thanks again -Jase-
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Re: France

Unread postby dazzleguts » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:45 pm  

Jeu Grotesque circa 1800

This is the most bizarre deck in my collection, and possibly the most bizarre ever made. Definitely one of my favourites. The cards I am showing are from a facsimile deck made by Vito Arienti for Edizioni del Solleone in 1977.

http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y477/cacanny/Grotesquespadess.jpg

The original pack was made circa 1800. The figures on the cards are caricatures, engraved and coloured by hand. There are 6 different faces on the aces and court cards, with only 2 figures combined on the pip cards.

http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y477/cacanny/Grotesqueheartss.jpg

Since they were intended to play a specific popular game called Binette, there are only 32 cards: ace and 7 through king in each suit.

http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y477/cacanny/Grotesqueclubss.jpg

This facsimile pack is very true to the original. They are long at 2.5" x 3.75", have square corners, no plastic coating or varnish, and have blank backs. Since Vito Arienti made this in 1977 he must have restored the colour by hand somehow rather than by computer manipulation.

http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y477/cacanny/Grotesquediamondss.jpg

This is the box lid and bottom, along with the title card, and the paper band that holds the cards. My deck is #181 out of an edition of 999.

http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y477/cacanny/Grotesqueboxtitlecardwrapper.jpg

There are often many reproductions of the more popular, and/or rare, antique decks and here are three of this one. Top right in the picture is the facsimile deck I am showing here, to the left is a miniature version made by del Solleone, and bottom right is a 2004 reproduction of the Jeu Grotesque deck from the collection of the Fournier Museum of Playing Cards.

http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y477/cacanny/Grotesqueversions.jpg

The Fournier Museum deck shows the subdued colours and darkened paper of the actual aged deck, but the corners are rounded and there's a plastic finish to the reproduced cards. The del Solleone facsimile attempts to show the deck in it's original state at the time of it's printing.

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Re: France

Unread postby volantangel » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:51 pm  

Very nice ! What does the back look like though, plain ?
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Re: France

Unread postby dazzleguts » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:20 pm  

:) The back is blank - I mention it in there somewhere.

Sorry for the sideways orientation, I'm trying to fix that now.

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Re: France

Unread postby volantangel » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:44 pm  

Whoops my bad, i did see it the second time around.
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Re: France

Unread postby Jock1971 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:43 pm  

That`s one strange deck of cards Dazzelguts. i like it . i like the use of the colours to distinguish between suits on the 1977 and mini deck. Did fournier try to dirty up their pack on purpose to make it look old?
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Re: France

Unread postby dazzleguts » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:34 pm  

No, the Fournier Museum has an original Jeu Grotesque from circa 1800. It looks that way after being around for over 200 years and they reproduced it exactly.

The Fournier Museum is a seperate entity from the Fournier card maker and I believe the Museum had their card reproductions all printed in China. They reproduced a large number of the antique decks in their collection in 2004 and I have quite a few. They were selling for fairly low prices back in 2010.

I was guessing that Vitto Arienti's 1977 deck was painstakingly made from an original one, in black and white line work, then hand coloured to restore the look of the deck. Either that or an original in perfect bright condition actually exists and he had access to it to make his facsimile.

Sorry if I wasn't clear enough in the write-up about these being originally from 1800 - it's in the title now.
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Re: France

Unread postby Jock1971 » Thu May 08, 2014 1:09 pm  

Heres a advertising deck from french card makers Heron,Who were making cards since 1946. The deck shows the `Paris Pattern`.It has two Standard heron jokers and an extra card. the Courts are almost exactly like the Cartes Francaises deck i posted earlier in this thread.
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Back ,Joker ,Extra Card and Tuck

I believe areo-feu are suppliers of fire-fighting equipment in France
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Thanks for looking :D -Jase-
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Re: France

Unread postby dazzleguts » Thu May 08, 2014 3:13 pm  

I like the Heron joker - he has a very particular character.
Wonder why they did that so much with the court card names over top of the pips. I've seen it before and it always looks like a mistake in printing.
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Re: France

Unread postby Jock1971 » Thu May 08, 2014 3:28 pm  

Hi Dazzleguts, Yes i thought it was bad printing also until i started investigating this deck and saw a few decks done like this. Very strange.
Oh are you still after an Alf cooke deck, i got a sealed blue new bond single deck The backs is standard no picture back , but a nice little deck, will PM some pics if our interested.
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Re: France

Unread postby dazzleguts » Thu May 08, 2014 5:35 pm  

Thanks J, I am interested. I also saw the New Bond Canasta decks in your thread.
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Re: France

Unread postby Jock1971 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:37 pm  

"Jeanne D`Arc" printed by Grimauld for the publishers Editions Arts Et Lettres in 1976
the deck is designed by Patrice Louis, It has 2 jokers and a header card with the names of all the courts on the flipside. I`ve also seen a Orange backed deck.The joker is someone named Cauchen - Eveque de Beauvais
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The Spade courts are - Roi ; Philippe III le Bon, Dame ; Isabeau De Baviere, & Valet ; Georges La Tremoille
The Diamond courts - Roi ; Louis D`Orleans, Dame ; Yolande D`Aragon, & Valet ; Jean Compte De Dunois
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The Heart Courts - Roi ; Charles VII, Dame ; Jeanne D`Arc, & Valet ; Robert De Baudricourt
The Club Courts - Roi ; Henri VI, Dame ; Catherine De France. & Valet ; John Talbot.
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Re: France

Unread postby Jock1971 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:56 pm  

Another deck from Grimauld ,This one dates to 1978 and is called "La Fayette"
This deck is also designed by Patrice Louis. This pack has only the one joker and a header card but comes with a small paper booklet with a little history of who all the courts are (In French)
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The Diamond Courts - Roi ; Rochambeau, Marechal of France, Dame ; Madame de Noailles, &Valet ; John Paul Jones
The Spades Courts - Roi ; Richard Howe, Dame ; Madame d`Henin, & Valet ; Thomas Jefferson
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The Hearts Courts - Roi ; La Fayette, Dame ; Madame La Fayette, & Valet ; Henri Estaing
The Clubs Courts - Roi ; George Washington, Dame ; Madame de Stael, & Valet ; Benjamin Franklin
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Re: France

Unread postby Jock1971 » Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:33 pm  

"Jeu de la pucelle" (game 1 of the maid) from publisher J.C Dusserre of France, the cards were printed by Boechat Freres (Heron)Not sure as to the date of this deck.Here`s the tuck,card back and the two extra cards.
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According to a translation of the extra card this deck has been reconstituted from the original of a moulding sheet conserved in the public library of Dijon,France.The cards are attributed to Jehan Personne who was master cardmaker at Lyons in the year 1493.
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Re: France

Unread postby Jock1971 » Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:20 am  

Another Dusserre of Paris deck, this one titled "Napoleon III" and is dated 1987.
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This is a reprint of a Grimauld deck titled "Jeu Imperial" dated 1858.
Emperor Franz-Joseph and Empress Elizabeth represents Austria (Diamonds),Emperor Alexander II and Empress mary represents Russia (Spades)
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Emperor Napoleon III and Empress Eugenie represents France (Clubs),Queen Victoria and Prince Albert represents Great Britain (Hearts)
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This next deck has no identification anywhere except "IMP. H. Muller - Paris" printed on the side of the tuck box.
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