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Re: Europe

Unread postby dazzleguts » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:40 pm  

This is a rather happy looking set of royalty - enjoying their luxurious life style.
Courts so often look grim, and there are standard patterns where they even look depressed or suicidal.
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Re: Europe

Unread postby Jock1971 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:47 pm  

The kings all look alike to me so do a couple of the jacks ?,Is it possible the artist used the same model but with different clothes. It might be just my eyesight.
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Re: Europe

Unread postby Jock1971 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:44 pm  

Another Piatnik double deck from Austria ,This deck is called"Shakespeare" and is number 2145
The designer is Donald Burton who was a actor in the Royal Shakespeare company the deck is dated from 1968 onwards.Although called shakespeare this deck depicts "the war of the roses" as acted by the Royal shakespeare company.
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Jokers and Backs

The war of the roses lasted from 1377 to 1486 and was a dynastic war between two families Lancaster (Red rose) and York (White rose)The Joker depicts The Earl of Warwick who changed sides in the war quite often thats why he wears both roses as in the play but not at the same time.
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Diamonds and Spades

The Spades courts depicts King-Edward the 4th ,Queen- Cecily Neville Duchess of york (Famous for the Princes in the tower) Jack- George Duke of Clarence. The Diamond courts depicts King- Henry the 7th Queen- Elizabeth of york Jack- Earl of Oxford.
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Hearts and Clubs

The Hearts courts depicts King-Henry the 6th, Queen- Margaret of Anjou, Jack- The Duke of Somerset and the Clubs depict King- Richard the 3rd,Queen-Lady Anne,Jack- Sir William Catesby.
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Re: Europe

Unread postby dazzleguts » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:32 pm  

Wow, you really did your research on these J. I always thought that joker looked like he was up to no good, and enjoying it.
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Re: Europe

Unread postby Jock1971 » Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:52 am  

HaHa yes,a type of "Blackadder" character for sure.thanks for the comment i`m trying to do some research on all my decks ,sometime its dead easy and sometimes i just cant get no info at all,Very frustrating .Am new at this game so when i start getting to know where to look etc i think it`ll get easier,Thanks again-Jase-
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Re: Europe

Unread postby Jock1971 » Sat Jun 28, 2014 1:44 am  

Here`s a patience set i recently obtained from "AG Muller and cie" of Switzerland.
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i added the standard Ace as a size comparison.
The listing for this set had it dated circa 1940`s and is a reprint of an Dondorf pack No 104.
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Re: Europe

Unread postby Jock1971 » Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:05 am  

Here`s a double pack from Paitnik of Austria.
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"Kaiser jubilaum spielkarten" is number 2138 of their range.
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Re: Europe

Unread postby Mike Ratledge » Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:36 am  

Absolutely no question that the European makers have consistently produced the finest cards with the most variety. The one gotcha about getting locked into "vintage and antique Bike" decks is that there is no variation amongst them. You have the Ace of Spades, Jokers (if they exist, and most were discarded - especially hard to find a 120+ year old deck with them because the first thing most people did when they opened the deck was discard the joker(s)), the backs and of course the tuck box - if IT exists.

Contrast this deck, ostensibly the finest ever made: the deck that killed Donforf in 1933 on their 100th anniversary: "Hundertjahrkarte" or Centennial, later reprinted by Waddingtons in Britain in the 60's and again in 1975 by A.S.S. the company that bought Dondorf and to this day still produces a few of their decks under that name.
These are the 1975 version. Waddington's sold under the name "Royal Gothic" - a red / blue pair. Both are distinct from the original 1933 printing which had A/K/D/B (German/Dutch) indices on the courts vice A/K/Q/J the English markings. I've seen a set marked "E/K/D/Kn" which is the Danish marks, probably printed for Wulff in Koebenhavn, since a lot (all?) of their cards were printed by Dondorf and some had "Enteret" on them, meaning 'exclusive' for them only.

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These are the "28 stone" cards that beat them into bankruptcy. A deck with 16 color faces and 12 color backs, although looking at any of my three varieties I'd have to say that I'm clueless why it needed 12 colors for the back. The court faces are unbelievable, appear to be photographs of the people on them, and even the best of the others have the look where they are clearly identifiable as say 'Charlemagne' on the KoH ("Suicide King"), can see the color of his eyes on those 12 color decks, but - nothing quite like these.

I think I'll reproduce them and see how it turns out? (shhh... I didn't say that)
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Re: Europe

Unread postby Eoghann » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:35 am  

What a fantastic deck of cards.
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Re: Europe

Unread postby Jock1971 » Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:14 pm  

Very Nice Mike :D . You can really note the difference in these A.S.S ones to the Waddingtons that are posted in the English thread. The backgrounds seems more clearer and a lot more detail in the clothes, But then Waddingtons only used 9 colours for their set.
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Re: Europe

Unread postby Jock1971 » Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:08 pm  

Here`s a deck from Carta mundi entitled "De Gelukskinderen" Produced in 1979 to commemorate the year of the child. the deck was designed by Jhan Paulussen.
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The deck came in either a single tuck or a double box, unfortunately mine came in a plastic box :cry: Also there is a version with french indexes. The tucks and scans can be seen at atrionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks03/d01305/d01305.html.
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Re: Europe

Unread postby Jock1971 » Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:40 pm  

A couple of decks from Piatnik of Austria, The first is titled "Preference Nr.14a" and uses the Vienna-Pattern II (Large Crown) The Tuck box and Back.
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The Hearts and Clubs.
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The Spades and Diamonds.
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The Next deck is titled "Wilhelm Tell" and uses the Austro-Czech Pattern. This deck is the Hungarian Variant No. 1812. The tuck,Extra Card and Back.
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Re: Europe

Unread postby Jock1971 » Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:47 pm  

And here is the Full set of cards from the "Wilhelm Tell" Deck, First suit The Hearts.
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Next suit The Clubs (Acorn)
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next is The Diamonds (Bell)
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And last suit is The Spades (Leaf)
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Re: Europe

Unread postby dazzleguts » Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:02 pm  

Pikety 15
Printed by Business Printers N. P. Kolin of Prague, Czechoslovakia.



This deck is another that uses the Vienna Large Crown pattern, as in the Piatnik Preference Nr.14a that Jase posted above. I thought it would be interesting to see the two decks together.

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This is a 32 card deck used to play Piquet and related games. These particular cards were made around 1970, but the pattern itself first appeared in the early 1800s.

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The cards are large at 6.4 cm x 9.9 cm, and the stock has a creamy off-white tint. Unlike the Piatnik deck there is no "Wien" on the Jack of Hearts flag, and no company name on the sash of the King of Spades.

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The pip cards include the Aces and 7 - 10. As in many European decks company identification appears on an ace that is not the Spade Ace - in this case it's the Ace of Hearts. The Czech words next to the logo actually just mean "Trademark".

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Re: Europe

Unread postby Jock1971 » Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:18 pm  

A double pack from makers Piatnik dated 2010, This deck was made to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Parkhotel Laurin, which is situated in Bolzano,Italy.
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The Card imagery is taken from the Mural that is painted on the Walls of the Hotel`s bar. The Fresco was originally painted in 1911 by Bruno Goldschmitt but was damaged in world war 2 later to be cover all in white,in 1990 the Mural was restored to its former glory.
Here are the Spades and Hearts.
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And last the Diamonds and Clubs.
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Re: Europe

Unread postby Jock1971 » Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:06 pm  

A limited Edition deck from Carta mundi of Belgium, the deck advertising John Players Special cigarettes is dated 1987 and is illustrated by Nick Price.
Box lid ,Back ,Extra card and Jokers.
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The Hearts and Spades.
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And last the Diamonds and Clubs.
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Re: Europe

Unread postby Jock1971 » Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:27 pm  

An A.G mueller Reprint of a deck originally produced by C.L Wust of Germany.
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This reprint of "Album Suisse" only has 32 cards where the original had a full set of 52.the original used copper plate engraving and was stencil coloured.Double ended courts showing a different costume both sides.
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Conrad ludwig Wust of Frankfurt designed this deck of cards in 1875 specifically for the growing tourist trade that had begun in europe around the 1860`s. He used french style suit indicators instead of the swiss making them more appealing to international visitors.
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Re: Europe

Unread postby Jock1971 » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:20 pm  

A Double deck from Piatnik of Austria ,Titled Folklore No 2169.
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Re: Europe

Unread postby dazzleguts » Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:43 pm  

Piatnik # 2141: Middle East "Arab" Double Deck

This double by Piatnik came to me in a plain gold foil box so I won't bother showing the box.
The artist is Franz Kiengraber of Austria and the cards were first printed in 1978.

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The courts show old Turks (Spades), Bedouins (Hearts).
The Middle Eastern style letters on the Ace of Hearts actually spell Piatnik.

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Tuareg (Clubs), and Berbers(Diamonds).
Tuareg has an odd alternate spelling on the cards as Toureg.

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If you are not seeing the pip cards at the right then click on the image to see all of it.
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Re: Europe

Unread postby Jock1971 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:09 am  

a deck produced by A.G Muller of Switzerland in 1992 called Schwyzer Fasnachts-jass.
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Flowers with card back. Ace - Bajazzo-Maitli & Bartli of Brunnen, King - Blatz, Ober - Hudi, Under - Alter Herr, Banner (10 card) Flag of the Japanese Guild

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Acorns. Ace - Zigeunerin(Gypsy woman) & Bajass, King - Valadi, Ober - Domino, Under - Talibasch, Banner - Carnival symbol of Steinen.

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Shields. Ace - Suuhudi & Horelibajass, King - Mummerie, Ober - Johee, Under - Typical devil of Einsiedein, Banner - Carnival symbol of Goldmauder.

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Bells. Ace - Wollerau witch & Laui-devil from Reichenburg, King - Rolli from Lachen, Ober - Fossli, Under - Rolli from Siebnen, Banner - Old Narrhalla flag.

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