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Re: Coloured Stock

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Lotrek wrote:Colored playing card stock doesn't exist.
Yes they did say. And practical is besides the point, half the stuff we do in this biz is in no way practical.
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Didn't happen without pictures. (quoting others)

Ref Lotrek's assertion - anyone can print 1 to 50 sheets on simulated bank note stock or whatever. We were talking about commercially available bulk stock made for custom deck makers.

The problem is the minimum order for custom bind stock with the correct weight, moisture content, etc etc. 4 metric tonnes is an ass of paper,
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The ones with the glued on UV highlighted not hot stamped pseudo foil? Sure, MPC makes them, also.
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Re: Coloured Stock

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This is certainly no field for fighting. Colored playing card stock may exist, nobody can say "I bet my head it doesn't exist" and frankly, I think it's the least interesting thing for a company to produce, as most colors limit the printing options a lot. I'm not saying the result wouldn't be interesting, I'm just saying it's limited. I'm sure someone out there will invest a fortune to produce/order playing card stock in a few colors. No big deal.
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Re: Coloured Stock

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Mike Ratledge wrote: Didn't happen without pictures. (quoting others)
I've personally seen it. Not revealing pictures before any releases is only sensible, it's business secrets.
Mike Ratledge wrote:Ref Lotrek's assertion - anyone can print 1 to 50 sheets on simulated bank note stock or whatever. We were talking about commercially available bulk stock made for custom deck makers.

The problem is the minimum order for custom bind stock with the correct weight, moisture content, etc etc. 4 metric tonnes is an ass of paper,
It is definitely available in bulk stock. All you need to do is place a large enough order. The whole printing process can be solved, but it's going to cost you.
Mike Ratledge wrote:The ones with the glued on UV highlighted not hot stamped pseudo foil? Sure, MPC makes them, also.
USPCC can produce foiled decks. Is it made by medieval blacksmiths who are melting actual gold and stamp it onto the cards? No. Since the option of traditional hot stamped foil isn't a smooth way to do it they came up with an alternative. Saying that it isn't foil because it doesn't meet the old definition of what hot stamped foil is is kind of beside the point here when we're looking for a way to foil cards, isn't it?

With all this said, I doubt we'll get any further with this considering how specific definitions there are being presented when it comes to both colored stock and foil.
Lotrek wrote:This is certainly no field for fighting. Colored playing card stock may exist, nobody can say "I bet my head it doesn't exist" and frankly, I think it's the least interesting thing for a company to produce, as most colors limit the printing options a lot. I'm not saying the result wouldn't be interesting, I'm just saying it's limited. I'm sure someone out there will invest a fortune to produce/order playing card stock in a few colors. No big deal.
I agree with the limitations of colored stock. There really isn't that much you can do with it (as far as I can think of at least). However I do believe that what can be done could potentially be very nice for us card nerds considering how silly we tend to get over foil. ;)
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Stone the crows!

I didn't mean to put the cat among the pigeons!

A lot of very deeply held convictions here when I just wanted to know a bit of trivia. Gosh ;)
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Re: Coloured Stock

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Haha, I think there's no need to worry as we're all still civil here (at least so far ;) ). Different viewpoints, different experiences and different assumptions on what is meant (for example here what counts as colored stock being available/exist) have a tendency to lead to discussions where both sides believe to be correct.

I think most people can piece together the state of things regarding colored stock from the posts in this thread, so in the end it wasn't for nothing at least. :)
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