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Hey Everyone,

I've been juggling between the Queen of Clubs and a freelance Deck, so she's taken longer than I had expected. I finally finished up Octavia's Queen of Clubs this weekend. Let me know what you think!

I'm switching over to the Tucks next.

@Sprouts - when I'm working on a fully-custom design like this, I don't worry traditional norms (hands holding items, one-eyed Jack....).

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Here's the Hi Res LINK: http://www.midnightcardcompany.com/ROMEQueenClubHR.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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What's to say. I like the purple for the club.
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RandyButterfield wrote:Hey Everyone,

I've been juggling between the Queen of Clubs and a freelance Deck, so she's taken longer than I had expected. I finally finished up Octavia's Queen of Clubs this weekend. Let me know what you think!

I'm switching over to the Tucks next.

@Sprouts - when I'm working on a fully-custom design like this, I don't worry traditional norms (hands holding items, one-eyed Jack....).

thanks, Randy

Here's the Hi Res LINK: http://www.midnightcardcompany.com/ROMEQueenClubHR.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
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Thanks Jamm Pakd!

Here's a look at the finished Tuck Boxes. Each Tuck exterior will be 4-Color Process + Gold Foil + Embossing. The Map Interior will be 4-Color Process.

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This is getting better and better. For what I am seeing, this deck will be the best one you have done so far. That should tell everything there is to tell.

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Räpylätassu wrote:This is getting better and better. For what I am seeing, this deck will be the best one you have done so far. That should tell everything there is to tell.

Love it!

Thanks Raplylatassu!

I'm enjoying every single minute that I get to work on this project. That's not usually the case with most Decks, so I hope it's a good sign!

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Randy,

I know it's a mock up but seeing the red and blue on the deck edge looks great. Hope card thickness doesn't loose that look but figure it will. Tucks are outstanding!

Glad you're enjoying working on these. Sounds like a good sign to me!
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Thanks RichK!!

Hey Everyone,

April has been a little hectic, but I finally had time to finish up another Court - Pompey's King of Clubs! A lot of the freelance Deck work is out of the way, so I hope to get into more of a consistent groove with the Rome designs.

Here's a Link to a Hi Res version: http://www.midnightcardcompany.com/ROMEKingClubHR.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Hey Everyone,

I usually don't do something like this, but I thought the Numbers Cards for the ROME Decks would be a good thing to post for debate / discussion.

The vibe I'm going for with the Numbers Cards is to loosely resemble a battlefield map. The center element is similar to Roman Shield embellishments, so it's meant to symbolize the battle lines between 2 separate armies of soldiers - the upper and lower PIPS.

I've created 3 versions of the Shield embellishments - going from subtle on the left version, to bold and full-color on the right version. I'm back-and-forth on which way to go. The subtle version is definitely easier to PIPs readability, but it may be too dull for the overall Deck design.

I'm starting to lean towards the full-color, bold version. Your eye is drawn to the center first, PIPs second, but it's the most interesting look of them all. One thing I've learned with Numbers Cards for fully-custom Decks is to not play it safe!

Which version do you prefer, and why?

Here's a link to a Hi Res version of the image: http://www.midnightcardcompany.com/ROMENumbersHR.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Of the three I would go with the bold version but what if you added the silver ring in the third version to the second version.
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I also prefer the bolder version (#3) ... I would be interested in seeing how you plan to show the odd numbered cards :ugthink:
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Hey Cbkimble,

That's a great idea! Below is what they look like. I like how the Silver Center piece remains bold, but the decorative arrows are more subtle (and making the Card more playable).

What does everyone else think?

@shermjack - the odd Numbers Cards will be very similar (7 of Clubs attached). It still fits with the idea of the design, I think - most opposing armies aren't equal in size!

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I like the new one most!

This looks stunning, a must have for me!
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Love the silver center with arrows on the numbered cards.

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Thanks for the look at the odd numbered cards ;) I agree with the others and think the new style for the center of the card looks best!
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Hey Everyone,

I have a new / final version that I think is even a little better than yesterday's changes. The center piece is now Gold, to matchup nicely with the Banners' Gold pattern designs. I originally had the center piece in Gold, but switched it to Silver to contrast against the Gold arrow designs. Anyway, below is the new design!

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You're right Randy, the gold center blends in better with the gold along the edges of the red and blue banner. Looking back at the silver center that's all my eye was drawn too. Good change for me.
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Randy - On the 10oH the small pip looks a bit out of place. All the pips should be the same size...
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sprouts1115 wrote:Randy - On the 10oH the small pip looks a bit out of place. All the pips should be the same size...
Sprouts, I thought you were all about breaking the rules?!!

Actually, I've seen different sized PIPs witchin the same Numbers Card a couple times with recent Decks, so I don't think it's a big deal, at all.

The full-size fifth PIP for the Tens and upper section of Nines makes the design look much too busy. Replacing it with a smaller PIP solved that problem. They look much better, and cleaner, with the smaller scale in place for the fifth PIP!

I'm thinking of them as the banner carriers, or hornblowers of the group. They're not as big and strong as the front-line soldier PIPS.

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This deck looks great and the theme is great... so overall great. But where are the roman numerals??? :mrgreen:
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pablo19 wrote:This deck looks great and the theme is great... so overall great. But where are the roman numerals??? :mrgreen:
Hey Pablo,

I'm glad you like it!

I've been contemplating adding Roman Numerals somewhere on the Numbers Cards, but definitely not in the corners. Roman Numerals as Indices would hinder a Deck's playability greatly!

I have just added them subtly to each of the Numbers Cards. As seen in the attached Eight of Spades, the Roman Numeral location is east of Gaul's name on the Map.

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The Aces and Numbers Cards are all finished!
I should be finished up with Cleopatra's Queen of Spades by the end of this weekend.

Hi Res of the Aces image is here: http://www.midnightcardcompany.com/ROMEQuadAcesHR.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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It just keeps getting better! I love the sublte addition of the roman numerals (even the I in the ace :D)
Now we just need to see the card backs and a delivery date haha
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pablo19 wrote:It just keeps getting better! I love the sublte addition of the roman numerals (even the I in the ace :D)
Now we just need to see the card backs and a delivery date haha
Ha ha, I didn't see the "I" on the Ace. Roman numerals a nice touch.

I'll be patient for these...drumming fingers waiting. :)
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Thanks Pablo and Rich!

Last night I finished up the next Court - Cleopatra's Queen of Spades!!

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Great work!

I had an idea by the way Randy. Now that you are doing a Rome deck and you have already done a Russian themed deck. Imperial Russia was actually sometimes called "The Third Rome" after the Byzantium a ka "The Second Rome" fell. At least the Russians fancied themselves as such, taking the eagle as an symbol and whatnot. There actually was some legitamacy in the claim as much of the Byzantium people and culture fled to Russia after their falling.

So a logical step after this would be to do a Byzantium themed deck :D
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Love the asps you put on her arms and crown.
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Any ideas for the jacks? I thought that maybe you could put some greats philosopher or inventors of the respective kings suit they are in!

The first example that comes to my mind is for Seneca, that was Nerone teacher! You need to put a little bit of reasearch if you want to do this tho!
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@Räpylätassu - I haven't really thought of doing a Byzantium themed design. I don't know much about the time period, so I'll look further into it. Maybe in the future! The Imperial design was easily my favorite Deck project to work on, and the Rome design is quickly taking it's place, so a Byzantium design could be fun.

@Sunz - Below is the outline for the remaining 6 Courts. I'm working on Brutus now. For the Caesar and Antony Decks I wanted to concentrate on the time period of late Julius Caesar / early Augustus.

If the project goes well, I want to do a new design in a year or two that would concentrate mostly on the later Emperors - Nero, Caligula, Sulla, Commodus, Marcus Aurelius, Trajan, Constantine, Hadrian, Tiberius, Julia the Elder…

Remaining Courts for the Antony / Caesar Decks:

Jack of Spades -  Cicero

Jack of Diamonds - Brutus
Queen of Diamonds - Servilia

Jack of Clubs - Cassius

Jack of Hearts - Marcus Agrippa
Queen of Hearts - Livia Drusilla


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