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The colors are still up in the air. I personally like a darker red
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Here's the updated Kings for the Swarm deck.
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Maybe it's my screen or having the other figures around, but if you haven't changed the red, it looks much better!
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3 out of 4 updated Jacks... keeping with standard look with some modifications. For example, I didn't think the Jack of Diamond needed a flower poking out of his chest for no apparent reason so I got rid of it.
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rjtomlinson1977 - Yea that flower was probably a leather strap to hold his quiver. Notice the half arrows on his chest. Get rid of those too. The JoD should just be holding some halberd weapon...
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Don Boyer suggested adding the flower or leather strap or whatever it is back to the design since a lot of card players have special nicknames for the cards. So, he said for a standard deck we shouldn't stray too far from the norm. Here's the updated Jack with his flower or whatever it is back. Also here's a work in progress view of the Jack of Clubs.
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rjominson1977 - This is the earliest I could find it. This was before all the suit indicators were on the top left, before we had indices, and reversible courts, and even before rounded card edges. It's looking like it's just part of the design.

If you are worried about being traditional, The JoD just needs a court border with a fontal face toward the left. He needs a halberd type weapon on the right. I guess the Bicycle 808 is the standard. Everything else is just interpretation. Notice in the JoH, the hilt of his short sword turned into a leave. Things change over time...

I was wrong in thinking it was some sort of quiver and arrows.
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Here's the Queen of Spades. As of right now, I'm thinking of modified hairdos for the Queens.... unless people object.
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That's awesome, RJ. I think anything you can do to spruce them up without taking away traditional elements is a good way to go.
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rjtomlinson1977 - Your KoD needs a hand. It's funny that the KoH is the only card with 2 hands. Let's have some fun. Have the KoD have two hands and have one on the axe. Let that hand extent out near the cut border outside the court border. While you are at it. Imagine what the Queens would look like if you extended the art pass the court border very close to the cut border. Complete the head on the Queens. Ever noticed how the QoH has less Red than the QoC and QoS. :shock:
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Yeah I need to add the hand to the KOD... I keep forgetting. I did fix The upside down hand on The KOH. I just haven't posted it.
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I still have a few images to get ready for the project.. but here's a sneak peak. Let me know what you think.
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Why is it being Kickstartered? I thought it was the printing company's new and improved staple deck? Shouldn't they be printing it?
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They won't do it unless they know it will be successful. Which I can't blame them. If I had a deck that I was selling like hotcakes... I wouldn't just switch for the hell of it. I would want to know that it would be successful. However, I must admit, I'm half tempted to switch the name to something else and do it with USPCC. The courts turned out sweet and I would hate giving them away for nothing. In the end, they own the Swarm brand... so it would be nice to develop my own.
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So... A failed campaign wouldn't be too bad? Hehe
Aren't you getting paid for this work? You better get a good discount in your next project with them!
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Nope.. I'm not getting paid at all. However, if I can get into major retailers here in the US they'll give me 30% stake of the sales. But that's a huge IF.
In the end, I always wanted to touch up of the standard court cards and this was a good opportunity.
Will the Kickstarter be successful? Probably not. I've been striking out lately so I don't have my hopes up too high. That's why I was half temped to do it with USPCC. At least then I know backers would be more likely to back the project then. I don't want to get into details but lets say if you could sell 10,000 decks you can get them cheap... no matter who prints them. Most Kickstarter campaigns raise enough to print that many... but it defeats the purpose of catering to the collector market.
But with a staple deck I thought I might as well throw caution to the wind and try to fund a large quantity so I can offer a low price. If it fails... it fails. It won't be the first time and it won't be the last.
I'm already starting to move out of the high end collector market and into something that will probably be more successful for me. I'm already doing the second print run of my Bradford County deck. I never seen a deck sell so fast. We sold out in two weeks.
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