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What are other folks charging for shipping to canada?
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you only need to add a couple bucks.

for example if it costs
Shipping to USA - $20
Shipping to CAN - $35
Shipping to INTL - $65

roughly thats the scale... Canada/Mexico is just under double and INTL is about 3-4 times.
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The problem is that kickstarter doesn't distinguish location for the international fee addition...it's just a flat rate per backer level regardless of country shipped to. I picked an amount that is somewhere around the average of shipping costs for different countries.

Perhaps I can offer a special bonus to my canadian backers as compensation for the extra shipping charge, eh? ;)
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The going rate is to add $1 per deck

Here are some examples...

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/117 ... ref=search" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/one ... ref=search" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Except that project doesn't take advantage of the new built-in international shipping fee feature that kickstarter has implemented, which has fixed a major issue with previous projects - international backers who didn't add on the shipping fee.

Howzabout I offer my canadian backers a bonus credit for use at the Vända online store? (which is launching this week, btw)

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Hey do the wooden cards add a significant cost to the decks? i could see a significant number of people (myself included), wanting to just get the decks without it if it can come cheaper, to me its nice and all as a freebie but i dont think im willing to fork out extra for it?

and $7 for int shipping is =( wish i had gotten in on the vanda decks, but i hadnt discovered kickstarter at that time =( oh well..
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volantangel wrote:Hey do the wooden cards add a significant cost to the decks? i could see a significant number of people (myself included), wanting to just get the decks without it if it can come cheaper, to me its nice and all as a freebie but i dont think im willing to fork out extra for it?

and $7 for int shipping is =( wish i had gotten in on the vanda decks, but i hadnt discovered kickstarter at that time =( oh well..
Actually, the wooden cards don't add much cost to the decks - think of them more as an extra incentive (a free collectible item that comes with your order). Obviously you get much better value by purchasing 2 or more decks or by adding other accessories.

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davegk wrote:The chips will be produced by buypokerchips.com - custom ceramic chips. I'm expecting my sample print run in the next week so I can post actual photos of them soon!

Also, I'm putting together the kickstarter page for Polaris...check it out here:
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You really need a Canadian shipping option. Most KS campaigns have caught on.
Adding $7 shipping is insane .. especially when you consider that the $10 deck price already includes the shipping fees to the states.

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You might just get an order from me for 4 decks (2 of each) but only if I get in on the early bird. Sorry, that shipping internationally plus $15 per deck base price for non-early birds is too much.
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Strag wrote:You might just get an order from me for 4 decks (2 of each) but only if I get in on the early bird. Sorry, that shipping internationally plus $15 per deck base price for non-early birds is too much.
I somewhat agree. 4 decks on early bird averages at $9 per deck shipped (if the wooden card costs $6), compared to $10 on the non-early bird. Anything less than 4 decks will make the average go up, and more will make it go down. There have been a few decks priced higher, but not many. Most have been less IIRC. Although it is a very balanced system, the cost for 2 and 4 decks should be more favorable as this is most likely where the majority of the pledges will be at.
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I would agree you might do better creating a level with 2 decks(1 each) and 4 decks(2 each) EarlyBird $15/$28 and then a not EB but still limited $20/31.
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DukeBoy wrote:I would agree you might do better creating a level with 2 decks(1 each) and 4 decks(2 each) EarlyBird $15/$28 and then a not EB but still limited $20/31.
I might go in on that pricing as well, too much for an international buyer as of now.. and perhaps have more reward tiers (like half-brick or brick, etc) based on the add-ons, i believe that people would get enticed more with higher tiers rather than having to do add-ons..
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Thanks for the input! I think I'm going to keep things simple this time though...I think creating a whole bunch of different pledge levels is more confusing to potential backers than it is helpful. It also greatly complicates the fulfillment process.

In other news, the sample run of poker chips arrived today and they look sweeeet! :)

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Also, I've added an extra incentive to the early backer pledge level...
any early backer who pledges $100 or more will receive a FREE T-shirt!

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As always IMHO:

1. I like the whole idea. But I like only White Polaris (in general) not Solar.
2. High price for international customers!
3. I don’t like the last variant of the White Polaris back (Solar). I think the first variant goes very well (colors) with the White Polaris.
4. The faces are good. I hope other faces will be as good as these are but won’t be the same (I want some variety even in such simple design)
5. I don’t like that arrangement of pips on the 10 of Spades. I think that symmetry is good for cards with traditional two pips + indices in the corners. When you use 4 pips in the corners you should use a vertical line for symmetry. One pip above that rhomb of Spades and one pip under it will be better.

Good luck. But with that price I’ll have to pass.
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Any ETA on this, David?
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I'm currently finishing up the video, which is going to be really cool and also a bit silly :)

I expect to launch the kickstarter project this coming weekend, but I'll post an update with exact launch date and time as soon as it is finalized.

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Well, the video is done and the project has been submitted. Hoping to launch this weekend, but will depend on how long it takes to get approval.

In the meantime, please check out the video:
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I thought that was a really great video; it had all the details needed, was the right ratio of serious/casual, and had just enough funny things to make me smile and laugh without being too silly.

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Any word on an early backer level with both decks?
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Sharpie wrote:Any word on an early backer level with both decks?
You know you can add to the pledge for additional decks, right?
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MagikFingerz wrote:
Sharpie wrote:Any word on an early backer level with both decks?
You know you can add to the pledge for additional decks, right?
I guess.
But one would think there should be an option to grab both decks with an "early bird" deal.
Don't you think?
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I think it would be nice to have the option...
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I don't see the need for it. Early bird saves you $5 regardless of how many decks you want, and I don't think that would change much if another option was added. It might just add more to shipping :?
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Yeah, I just saw the KickStarter page now... we should theoretically be able to add as many of whichever deck we want... :lol:
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David, any word from KickStarter when that thing was going live? I know according to your Facebook post something doesn't seem right with how long it's taking to get approved...
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No word from kickstarter yet. I just submitted it on tuesday morning and the Vända project took 4 full days to approve after submitting, though I saw the Lumberjacks project was approved in one day. I was really hoping to hear something by today so I could launch tomorrow but maybe I'll hear tomorrow and can launch on saturday...

I'm keeping the backer levels simple - the early bird deal is a $5 discount plus you get a free t-shirt ($15 value) if you order $100 or more. The free shirt bonus is only available to early bird backers. You can add on additional decks to the early bird level at the same per deck price.

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I should also point out that I've got some really exciting stretch rewards lined up for this project so stay tuned for those announcements! :)
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davegk wrote:You can add on additional decks to the early bird level at the same per deck price.

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Correct me if I am wrong but the EB is $10 and any one could add on extra decks for $7 so why would I add on at $10?
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sorry, meant same per deck price as the regular backer level ($7/deck)
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Polaris launches TOMORROW (Dec 27th) at 6pm PST.
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