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My New Deck

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UPDATE: Update from old pics from this first post:

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ORIGINAL POST:

I still need to think of a name for this deck but I've been working on it for quite some time now. I think the hardest part is doing the faces and the hands... Does anyone have any feedback on what I've got so far?

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Re: My New Deck

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I like it so far! I'm assuming it's a work in progress?
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hmmmm.... I think I'm liking this! Can't wait to see more. do you have a theme your working on or just working on the court right now?

The King of hearts face he looks confused. as for the hands go for a more realistic hand not mittens ;)
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Re: My New Deck

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Love the idea of a 4 color deck, I wish more designers did this.

I agree with the more realistic hands, and really like the eyes on the King of Hearts.

Interestingly I also like the cards that are somewhat half-finished (detail in one face, not in the other) even though I'm assuming you are midway through design. Or maybe that's on purpose?

Anyway, would like to see more.
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Re: My New Deck

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Looks like a really good start.
What i really appreciate is the colors for the suite,green for the clubs ,blue for the diamonds and black for the spades/red for the hearts.
No doubt that this will look funky in numerical order (fans!)
You are def. On something with great potential here.
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I like the courts, mrdude42!

Decks with custom courts are my favorites, and I like what you have done so far!

Your King of Clubs reminds me:

Has anyone else wondered why the King of Clubs is usually shown with an orb floating in mid-air in front of him?

There is a reason!

Back in the very early days of playing cards (centuries ago), the King of Clubs was originally drawn holding an orb in front of himself.

As other artists created their own decks, they copied the original, but with slight changes which were sometimes errors.

One of those errors was when they drew the King of Clubs, what had originally been the the fingers of the king's hand holding the orb from below morphed, over time, into the petals of a floral pattern on the orb itself.

Later card artists drew the orb without the floral pattern, and so all trace of what were originally the fingers of the king's hand were gone, leaving the orb apparently suspended in mid air!

Another bit or playing card design trivia:

In the game of Bridge, if a player inadvertently plays a card from the wrong suit (mistaking a club for a spade, for example), this illegal play results in what is called a "Revoke".

Decks where pips of all four suits are of a different color (rather than two suits being black and two suits being red) make such inadvertent plays more unlikely, and so are called "No Revoke" decks.
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By the way, mrdude42:

The King of Hearts is often called The Suicide King because he holds the sword behind his head, and the flat, two-dimensional view we have of it makes it look like he has stuck the sword through his head.

Your King of Hearts most definitely has his sword running through his head - an odd touch that I actually sorta like!
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RSLancastr wrote:By the way, mrdude42:

The King of Hearts is often called The Suicide King because he holds the sword behind his head, and the flat, two-dimensional view we have of it makes it look like he has stuck the sword through his head.

Your King of Hearts most definitely has his sword running through his head - an odd touch that I actually sorta like!
Actually, we still don't see it going through his head, only his hair ;)

I like it too :)
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True, MagikFingers, nor would we without X-rays, but it is definitely not behind his head.
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like it!!!! waiting for more! good job!
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Wow those faces are awesome , is there a design for the tuck case too?
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Mr Dude, I'm liking this deck. I understand it's a work in progress, but you've got a heck of a start... Add enough detail to the face cards and get something great for the tuck box and you've got something that would be very successful on KickStarter... Don't overdue it though... you're simplicity in the design is the big appeal for me...
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The Backsides

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This is not done yet but what do you guys think of the backside I've been working on for this deck? I'm trying to design it so it can be easily turned into a marked deck too.

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I'm really liking the look of this. Keep up the good work!

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Good looking back, so far.

Currently, it has a subtle one-way with the suit symbols and words being in different positions on either end. Is that intentional or just a first draft?
Also, maybe consider making the 'short side' border more seamless with the 'long side' border. Either directly, or with similar design elements.

I personally never like the "lintel-ed" look as a card border (see picture).
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Otherwise, looks nice!
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Looking good so far, everyones gonna tell you that thinner borders would be better. I would also prefer a border around the courts, it would make it appear to be more 'regal' which seems to be what you are going for. Also i think the no-faces on the courts are a good move. All in all, theres lotsa potential in this deck, but black and white decks are just not my thing.
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FYI...

A deck such as this one, in which the pips in each of the four suits has its own unique color, is called a "No-Revoke" deck.

The name comes from card games such as Bridge, in which playing a card of the incorrect suit results in what is called a "revoke". So a deck with a different color for each suit is supposed to help prevent Revokes, as it is more difficult for a player to mistake a club for a spade or a heart for a diamond, thus, "No Revoke".
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Re: My New Deck

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Thanks for all the suggestions!

Here's what I got so far for the rest of the cards. What do you guys think? It's probably hard to see so you may wanna download the picture with the dropbox link to be able to zoom in more clearly.

Note these are not complete. Still a work in progress.

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I really like where you are heading with these. Custom courts are clean and the back design is comming
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Which looks better? Pips/Numbers on 2 corners or 4 corners?

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Re: My New Deck

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mrdude42 wrote:Which looks better? Pips/Numbers on 2 corners or 4 corners?

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Hi would prefer on the 4 corners! I'm right handed, but with cards i'm lefty!!! So with the pips and numbers on the 4 corners I can fan the cards and the numbers will show!!!
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sms69x wrote:
mrdude42 wrote:Which looks better? Pips/Numbers on 2 corners or 4 corners?

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Hi would prefer on the 4 corners! I'm right handed, but with cards i'm lefty!!! So with the pips and numbers on the 4 corners I can fan the cards and the numbers will show!!!
I'm torn on this one. I think that the two-corner one LOOKS better (probably mostly because it is what I am used to), but the four-corner one may be better from a marketing standpoint, as it makes the cards more usable for lefties.
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mrdude42 wrote:Which looks better? Pips/Numbers on 2 corners or 4 corners?

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I prefer the two corners! It looks way to busy with all four corners!
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samwisethegray wrote:I prefer the two corners! It looks way to busy with all four corners!
And more so on the tens than on any other cards.

I have a few decks in my collection with the indices in all four corners (mostly European decks, sometimes marketed as "Left-handed" decks, although they are actually "Right OR Left-handed" decks), and yes, they all seem "busy", mostly, I think, because they are just not what we are used to seeing.

I wonder if people thought that decks with indices in TWO corners looked "busy" when THEY were first introduced in the 1880s. (prior to that, decks had NO indices).
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RSLancastr wrote:
samwisethegray wrote:I wonder if people thought that decks with indices in TWO corners looked "busy" when THEY were first introduced in the 1880s. (prior to that, decks had NO indices).
In the 1880's, I doubt they could have conceived of what the term "busy" meant. :|

But I take your meaning. Who was it that first thought to put indices on the cards, and what did people think when it happened? Hmm...
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Sharpie wrote:In the 1880's, I doubt they could have conceived of what the term "busy" meant. :|
As I typed that post in I thought of adding "...or "crowded", or whatever word they would have used instead of "busy".
But I take your meaning. Who was it that first thought to put indices on the cards, and what did people think when it happened? Hmm...
Evidently, enough people thought "hey, this is great! I can tell what cards are in my hand without taking them out of my hand!" to make it catch on.

ETA: I have a few decks in my collection old enough to not have indices, and it is...odd and frustrating... to hold them in a "hand" formation, and not be able to tell what they are.
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Well, I happened upon one of those European decks with the indices in all four corners.

I don't think tyhe cards in it looked "busy" - even the tens!

Here's a ten from the deck:

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I think that the "frame" helps to prevent the "busy-ness" via some type of subtle optical illusion.
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Re: My New Deck

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In general, I tend to favor the pips in all four corners. Your face design, however, seems to emphasize simplicity and elegance. Thus, I think the 2-corner-only pips are the way to go, because that results in a cleaner, more elegant look and feel.

Incidentally, I like the backs and I like the courts very much... but the two don't seem to really be from the same deck, design-wise. The courts have such a wispy feel to them, while the backs are bold and utilitarian (in a good way, to be sure). Faces: rounded. Backs: square.

Even if you stick with the direction you're heading, I'd love to own a couple decks, but if you could make the backs speak the same design language as the faces, that would be so much the better. And then, you can design your next deck where the faces match your current back design. Win-win!

Good stuff, mrdude42.
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Re: My New Deck

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I know it's been a while but I finally got some time to get back into these. Made some updates. Lot of people seemed to dislike the original 4 colors for pips (Red, Black, Blue, Green) so I'm trying out just making them red and black like usual. Also added more details to court cards. Aces still need work. Spade court cards could use some more details added as well. Thoughts?

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Re: My New Deck

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Playing around with adding some colors.

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