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Bruno wrote:Well .... are all kings dark ?
Sorry .... :uggrin:
they must be :mrgreen:
Brutal Kings and pretty Queens :mrgreen:
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.... and bloody awesome decks, I guess !
They're yours Alexey .... :ugking:
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Left box is the original one. Do you think that other two are better?

p.s. box's sides will be tweaked before the release if I go with #2 or #3. Front bottom boxes are all #3

And yes...I like #3 :ugdance: Well...back design ???

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I still like #1 the best :)
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MagikFingerz wrote:I still like #1 the best :)


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Ok. It's my 2nd attempt to add borders :mrgreen: And now I'll keep them in the release. IMHO borderless version of the back looks cheap (for this design).

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sigh.
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Bruno wrote:sigh.
Design is a process. I am very limited by the borderless back design. It does not work well with court cards. I can also change the color scheme from green :ugdance: . It''s the WAVE deck :ugthink:

Deep blue sea color test:

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Waving.

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One more sleep ....
Let us coalesce !
With a rip snortin' bordered Wave ....
Deep Dynamic Blue.
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Yes Bruno. Just need to start and finish :mrgreen: ... not really

NEO:WAVE Ultra edition:

The Antarctic sea ice)). Ultraviolet. :ugdance:


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#whatabouthe>antarctic<
Weddell Ross Mawson McMurdoe Shackleton ....

¡ Whiteout !

Of course, I do very much like your 'Deep Blue Antarctic' too.
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I'll admit that I did not care for the original design; hated it actually. I own your other decks and was frankly disappointed. However, I really like the direction in which you have gone. The waves on the faces really flow now. I agree with your decision on the bordered back- I think border less would look a bit cheap. The "lightning bolt" back really improves the visual interest. The ice blue really sealed it for me however. I think bold colors rather than pastels really makes the back design feel more powerful. I would to see an "ice" green. In any case, this is quickly turning into a "must have" for me. Keep up the good work- it's only getting better.
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flashcards wrote:I'll admit that I did not care for the original design; hated it actually. I own your other decks and was frankly disappointed. However, I really like the direction in which you have gone. The waves on the faces really flow now. I agree with your decision on the bordered back- I think border less would look a bit cheap. The "lightning bolt" back really improves the visual interest. The ice blue really sealed it for me however. I think bold colors rather than pastels really makes the back design feel more powerful. I would to see an "ice" green. In any case, this is quickly turning into a "must have" for me. Keep up the good work- it's only getting better.
I have to disagree, respectfully of course. The lightning bolt is exactly that, and thus is more removed from the original "wave" concept IMO. I also think not offerings these in a borderless version would be a travesty, but I think everyone here knows my feelings towards borders :mrgreen:

Totally agree about the faces though, they have greatly improved!
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yes, thanks for ideas and comments!

1. I think I am not ready for Kickstarter this Saturday :uggrin:

2. I have not posted ULTRA edition cards. Of course they are ready. It''s not a big deal. Same faces will be used BUT with horizontal symmetry instead of vertical one. Second difference - the background.

3. I am trying to catch the right color scheme for the ULTRA edition back/tuck
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I have to agree with everything Tom said above: if there were a borderless version, I would be totally ordering a bunch more. I will still back the project if there isn't a borderless option, but your original ideas of a borderless back really worked for me, and would pry more money out of my wallet.

Different strokes for different folks, and all that.

I also agree that your court cards and faces are looking much stronger than they were, and I already liked them in general from the outset.
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what tom and rousselle said ....

when you're ready for it, I'll be salivating with the best of 'em .... :ugthink:

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Still cannot create anything good with the borderless back :mrgreen: Every single version looks cheap :uggrin:

Current status:

1. I want to mute bright red by adding line waves to both sides of the card
2. I think the ULTRA edition is ok without a band and with different symmetry
3. Back colors should not be too bright (they will be darker when printed)
4. What about this background style? Playable?

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New backgrounds on the courts are very interesting!

Hey... um... can we see some of the "cheap looking" mock-ups of the borderless backs? You know... just for grins?

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rousselle wrote:New backgrounds on the courts are very interesting!

Hey... um... can we see some of the "cheap looking" mock-ups of the borderless backs? You know... just for grins?

:)
thanks! yes I'll try to upload some images later.
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rousselle wrote:New backgrounds on the courts are very interesting!

Hey... um... can we see some of the "cheap looking" mock-ups of the borderless backs? You know... just for grins?

:)
Losts of trash so I'll upload something that I like. The reverse fan is not perfect but I know how to fix it.

Have hundreds of such :ugthink:
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I'm sorry, but for me every new variation of the back design strays further and further from what I liked about the initial design/concept. I'm curious as to where it'll end up, but I can feel my interest and excitement dwindling :(
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MagikFingerz wrote:I'm sorry, but for me every new variation of the back design strays further and further from what I liked about the initial design/concept. I'm curious as to where it'll end up, but I can feel my interest and excitement dwindling :(
I was asked to show some not-so-ugly borderless design. I have 100 more variations but I'll keep them private :mrgreen:

One rule applies - there is no difference between love and hate :lol:

p.s. I need something very simple (back/box) for this deck
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In fact it's an experiment to post sketches here on UC. Each design process is always like this. :mrgreen: You start with one idea and finish with something very different. I don't really care about the original design. It's just a food for more ideas.

Still need to play with colors/bands/symmetry but overall it's a good try

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Huh.

For the borderless design, the fans will look a lot more interesting, I suspect (although, I imagine you've tried this) if the waves along the left-hand side along the upper half of the deck curve ever so slightly downward (ie, toward the "middle") of the cardback near the edge. Instead of getting that cheap-kinda feel you're wrestling with, it should make for a more deliberate, circular-ish pattern.

I'm probably not describing this very well, but I think you might get a sense of where I'm going with this.
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rousselle wrote:Huh.

I'm probably not describing this very well, but I think you might get a sense of where I'm going with this.
Thank! Yes, of course I understand! Previous back design was a sketch. Today I had more time to work. I think I can go without a white edition. First one could be with a colorful background and borders. And borderless ULTRA.
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