Vol 2. Sisterhood of Blood - 52 Ravens
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Re: Vol 2. Sisterhood of Blood - 52 Ravens
Hey!
Here are the Kings, there are a couple of things that jump out at me but I'll let you guys take the glory.
As always please feel free to go to town on the layouts, and constructive feedback will be rewarded if it develops the design, with naming of the vampires
Thanks
Here are the Kings, there are a couple of things that jump out at me but I'll let you guys take the glory.
As always please feel free to go to town on the layouts, and constructive feedback will be rewarded if it develops the design, with naming of the vampires
Thanks
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Re: Vol 2. Sisterhood of Blood - 52 Ravens
They are fricking amazing. It honestly don't see anything wrong with them.
As for the red debate, I would like to see an option of the red being on the edge, BUT very thin. Kinda like Lorenzo's Le Chat Rouge, that one had a thin black border on the face of the cards. I am not saying that it is the best absolutely but I would like to see a design of it as an option.
As for the red debate, I would like to see an option of the red being on the edge, BUT very thin. Kinda like Lorenzo's Le Chat Rouge, that one had a thin black border on the face of the cards. I am not saying that it is the best absolutely but I would like to see a design of it as an option.
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Re: Vol 2. Sisterhood of Blood - 52 Ravens
Thanks for the suggestion, I've given it a try but it looks a little overkill to me Worth a go thoughRäpylätassu wrote: I would like to see an option of the red being on the edge.
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Soooo, is everyone a little bored of the Sisterhood design and theme? The forum is very quiet. I'm not seeking attention its just that if you guys really aren't into it, maybe the other backers of Vol 1 will feel the same? I'd much rather put my time into something you guys are excited about than produce a deck that isn't that interesting
PS - not looking for an ego stroke, I just want to be sure its what the card community are looking for.
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I actually feel like you've received a reasonable amount of replies by this forum's standards
To be honest, one of the things I like about this place is that we don't have people that feel the need to comment on absolutely everything, the members here seem to only comment on things they have an interest in or feel like they can contribute to. I'm sure there's plenty who are interested in this but just haven't seen a need to mention anything specific. Remember, there's a lot more people who vote in elections than are politically active
To be honest, one of the things I like about this place is that we don't have people that feel the need to comment on absolutely everything, the members here seem to only comment on things they have an interest in or feel like they can contribute to. I'm sure there's plenty who are interested in this but just haven't seen a need to mention anything specific. Remember, there's a lot more people who vote in elections than are politically active
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Re: Vol 2. Sisterhood of Blood - 52 Ravens
Kirk,
Me want Vol. 2 with red border.
Me want Vol. 3 with red interior.
Or visa versa.
Me not bored.
Sincerely,
Me
Me want Vol. 2 with red border.
Me want Vol. 3 with red interior.
Or visa versa.
Me not bored.
Sincerely,
Me
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Re: Vol 2. Sisterhood of Blood - 52 Ravens
I missed the first one, but looking through this thread at the artwork, there is no chance I miss this one
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Re: Vol 2. Sisterhood of Blood - 52 Ravens
rousselle wrote:
Me not bored.
Sincerely,
Me
Me neither too, er either ....
O, I beg of you your comprehensions,
yet laugh at your contempts ....
my only competition is with myselves.
But Lèse-majesté, especially >Normans, natch.
Is jarnstill the Ars of the Hors Nebulous ?
Neigh .... the Effluxor of the Omniverse ??
yet laugh at your contempts ....
my only competition is with myselves.
But Lèse-majesté, especially >Normans, natch.
Is jarnstill the Ars of the Hors Nebulous ?
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I think this is a legitimate successor to the first deck. It is different enough to be interesting rather than being a recolor. The quality of the art and concept makes it stand above the usual vampire themed decks which have been done to death (no pun intended). I think the two will make a nice set- bookends if you will. However, as much as I would like to see both border combinations, it is probably best to stick to just one, although a stretch goal might work. Even though I dislike the concept, you might make one a super-limited, on-of-a-kind, never to be printed again, super-cool, magnificent, got-to-have-it- to-complete-the-set, edition. You can print a couple hundred at MPC for next to nothing and then charge $35 a pop for them. That might build some interest and get you over your goal more easily. Of course, I won't be buying any. In fact, I feel dirty for even suggesting it. In any case, after this campaign, it might be a good idea to move on to a different type of project, which I'm sure you are already planning.
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Thanks guys. Like I said, I wasn't fishing for an ego boost, I just felt that the usual critical eye of UC was a little quiet and wanted to make sure it wasn't a lack of enthusiasm for more of the sisterhood theme. I working on the back still, I'm not happy with it as it is, but will crack on over the weekend.
Thanks for all the support everyone, if you've commented and want to name a vampire, feel free to PM me, pending terms and conditions, and my final approval as I'll be writing a book for Vol 2 character too
Good point, maybe it means I've found my groove for producing artwork, people are happy with what I have to offer...MagikFingerz wrote:I'm sure there's plenty who are interested in this but just haven't seen a need to mention anything specific.
Thanks for all the support everyone, if you've commented and want to name a vampire, feel free to PM me, pending terms and conditions, and my final approval as I'll be writing a book for Vol 2 character too
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Kings are looking great - and going with your gut feeling when deciding on red inside or outside is exactly what you should be doing....
Number cards, curious to see how you plan to do them? Just looking at the red inside on courts, I'd like to see how numbers would look on the red panel (with black vs off-white pips on top). I know it's not standard to 'frame' number cards, though to place them straight on the off-white background would mean either making a border for each 'white' diamond/heart OR changing the pip colour to red (thus loosing some of the visual language from the courts)... I'm sure you've already thought out and planned these cards, just throwing in my 2c and curiosity - Looking forward to see the back as well!
Number cards, curious to see how you plan to do them? Just looking at the red inside on courts, I'd like to see how numbers would look on the red panel (with black vs off-white pips on top). I know it's not standard to 'frame' number cards, though to place them straight on the off-white background would mean either making a border for each 'white' diamond/heart OR changing the pip colour to red (thus loosing some of the visual language from the courts)... I'm sure you've already thought out and planned these cards, just throwing in my 2c and curiosity - Looking forward to see the back as well!
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Hadn't thought of the number cards. Red border would be much easier to use across all the cards, both for consistency and uniqueness. If you go with just plain number cards, won't they look the same as in Vol 1?
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Hey Everyone!
With no-one spotting any issues with the Kings, I thought I would share the first draft of the back design, along with a couple of 3d renders to help put it in the real world view as apposed to flat.
I'm not sure if the roses are too much, see what you think. I've tried to use more red than black this time so hopefully its not too overpowering. I know someone will mention me reverting back to "normal" border instead of the thin ones on volume 1 but I'll sleep better this way
I'll have a think about the number cards, I think it'll be ok to be similar to vol 1, I'll have a play around.
As always please feel free to go to town on the layout, and constructive feedback will be rewarded if it develops the design, with naming of the vampires
With no-one spotting any issues with the Kings, I thought I would share the first draft of the back design, along with a couple of 3d renders to help put it in the real world view as apposed to flat.
I'm not sure if the roses are too much, see what you think. I've tried to use more red than black this time so hopefully its not too overpowering. I know someone will mention me reverting back to "normal" border instead of the thin ones on volume 1 but I'll sleep better this way
I'll have a think about the number cards, I think it'll be ok to be similar to vol 1, I'll have a play around.
As always please feel free to go to town on the layout, and constructive feedback will be rewarded if it develops the design, with naming of the vampires
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That back design is incredible! I don't think the roses are too much, to me they seem to create a nice depth to the whole thing where none of the design elements draw the eye more than the others. A+ from me
Red bordered back design is another reason to go with red borders on the faces too, though. Just sayin'...
Red bordered back design is another reason to go with red borders on the faces too, though. Just sayin'...
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Amazing. I honestly still don't know how Vol 1's back didn't get any more votes on UC decks of the year awards at the best back category and this is just as good. I wouldn't mind if the border was even thinner honestly.
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I like it as is. My only hope is that after printing the black lines are a little...blacker? Not thicker but a deeper black, if that makes any sense. I think that would really set off the other elements. Regardless, that is an awesome back, just the way it is.
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Re: Vol 2. Sisterhood of Blood - 52 Ravens
Kirk,52Ravens wrote:Hey Everyone!
With no-one spotting any issues with the Kings, I thought I would share the first draft of the back design, along with a couple of 3d renders to help put it in the real world view as apposed to flat.
I'm not sure if the roses are too much, see what you think. I've tried to use more red than black this time so hopefully its not too overpowering. I know someone will mention me reverting back to "normal" border instead of the thin ones on volume 1 but I'll sleep better this way
I'll have a think about the number cards, I think it'll be ok to be similar to vol 1, I'll have a play around.
As always please feel free to go to town on the layout, and constructive feedback will be rewarded if it develops the design, with naming of the vampires
If you ever think of doing a limited edition foiled version of your decks (Vol I or II, doesn't matter to me), before going to anyone else, do talk to me. Foil on some areas will just look awesome on such a gorgeous design.
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Re: Vol 2. Sisterhood of Blood - 52 Ravens
I think the back design is well done. The roses are not too much. I'm not a skull person, but just want to comment that the back design is well executed!
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Sell me 2 double backers please Love this back design.52Ravens wrote:Hey Everyone!
thought I would share the first draft of the back design, along with a couple of 3d renders to help put it in the real world view as apposed to flat.
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Re: Vol 2. Sisterhood of Blood - 52 Ravens
I have the first two decks and I think this is looking great, I'm loving the roses even though I generally don't like floral at all. Detail is noticeably improving with every project.
I gotta say though I was thinking 'automatic back' while reading through this until the red borders went away, now I think I'll be on the fence because without them it looks much much too similar to vol 1, more like a refresh than an evolution, not to mention the border on the back matching the front carries a lot of value in cohesiveness.
I gotta say though I was thinking 'automatic back' while reading through this until the red borders went away, now I think I'll be on the fence because without them it looks much much too similar to vol 1, more like a refresh than an evolution, not to mention the border on the back matching the front carries a lot of value in cohesiveness.
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I'm afraid so, but it isn't a decision I've come to lightly. Automatically my design brain wants the back and front to match, but as red is one of the main deck colours for 2 of the suits it makes it difficult to play with. Red pips would have to become white and as the red is dark the black is barely visible so this would need to be white too.Adonael wrote:red borders went away
I could have added a thin border similar to Le Chat on the edge of the cards, but having previously had thin borders on Vol.I its very stressful waiting to see how they have come out. If they were even a little off on the alignment, it would look odd and EPCC wouldn't reprint for free. So to be stress free, I can't have this as an option either.
So this leaves me with one option, which I'm happy with, I feel the red inner frame and all new cast of vampires sets the courts aside from Vol.I just enough to make it different. I can't see that people are using the deck for magic so the matching both sides should be less of an issue for general use or collecting.
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Well I definitely prefer the new look, the red borders just didn't look very clean/elegant and not being able to use red/black for the pips is a strong dislike for me and the outside index one is the more critical. Having other changes, a new set of characters, etc are also nice and the tuck is pretty sweet, but really it's that back! If it wasn't for the back and the change in borders I probably would have skipped this one. Making the borders beige (not red) put me on the fence. That back though makes this one I'll need to be in on. Looks great!
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Thanks for the reminder Glad to be on board! Very much looking forward to seeing this deck after seeing some of the development here on UC
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